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I'm afraid I found tonight's programme thoroughly tedious. It gave the impression that the British were the " baddies" while the IRA were angels. Sadly, there was as much violence on both sides and, of course, the IRA carried that violence forward for many years after the 1920s.
How many more programmes must we have about Ireland and it's hardship? Surely the BBC can find more interesting people than O'Carroll! |
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They have done the "looking back over the generations" when they found Boris was descended from George 2nd and Alexander Armstrong was descended from King John.
The episodes focussing on just one person can be more interesting, if the story holds the attention. Bruce Forsyth's Grandfather who vanished to America and had a family there, Kim Cattrall with her Grandfather who was a bigamist - similarly Vic Reeves finding his mother's long lost Aunt who was younger than her. |
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I'm afraid I found tonight's programme thoroughly tedious. It gave the impression that the British were the " baddies" while the IRA were angels. Sadly, there was as much violence on both sides and, of course, the IRA carried that violence forward for many years after the 1920s.
How many more programmes must we have about Ireland and it's hardship? Surely the BBC can find more interesting people than O'Carroll! |
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Was pretty incredible that could get to a name for the killer but was never going to get a balanced view. In order to be shot the family more than likely did some bad deeds but nothing of this came out in the episode.
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Tedious. This series has been the worst ever. Are they cutting costs focusing on just one ancestor?
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Tedious. This series has been the worst ever. Are they cutting costs focusing on just one ancestor?
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Was pretty incredible that could get to a name for the killer but was never going to get a balanced view. In order to be shot the family more than likely did some bad deeds but nothing of this came out in the episode.
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This episode has definitely divided opinions.
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... In order to be shot the family more than likely did some bad deeds but nothing of this came out in the episode.
It was stated clearly and repeatedly that two of Peter O'Carroll's sons were Republican activists, fighting for Irish independence. Their father was murdered because he refused to betray his sons. |
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This episode has definitely divided opinions.
Change in format meant that I soon lost concentration, I've found out what happened now (in the broad strokes) from this thread. |
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What "bad deeds" do you suspect they were "more than likely" engaged in?
It was stated clearly and repeatedly that two of Peter O'Carroll's sons were Republican activists, fighting for Irish independence. Their father was murdered because he refused to betray his sons. Think the story was well told |
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Most interesting programme tonight. Glad O'Carrolls grandpa was cleared.
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I'm afraid I found tonight's programme thoroughly tedious. It gave the impression that the British were the " baddies" while the IRA were angels. Sadly, there was as much violence on both sides and, of course, the IRA carried that violence forward for many years after the 1920s.
How many more programmes must we have about Ireland and it's hardship? Surely the BBC can find more interesting people than O'Carroll! |
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Both sides fought very dirty for certain (though some of the British acts of terror were inexcusable such as the burning of the city of Cork in 1920 when they deliberately set fire to hundreds of houses and businesses, as well as Cork City Hall and the Carnegie Library, all of which were destroyed).
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Was pretty incredible that could get to a name for the killer but was never going to get a balanced view. In order to be shot the family more than likely did some bad deeds but nothing of this came out in the episode.
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What "bad deeds" do you suspect they were "more than likely" engaged in?
It was stated clearly and repeatedly that two of Peter O'Carroll's sons were Republican activists, fighting for Irish independence. Their father was murdered because he refused to betray his sons. |
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What we would now call terrorists. IRA men did not go around doing good things, they murdered people.
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Though the story was interesting this didn't feel like an episode of WDYTYA at all.
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With my vague knowledge of Irish history I seem to remember that the IRA also did quite a bit of burning down. Isn't that why most of the Irish censuses were lost?
The burning of Cork city centre by British forces was just plain malicious though. It was done in revenge for IRA guerilla attacks but many hundreds of houses and businesses were set on fire and firemen were prevented from tackling the blazes (and does give an indication that British forces regarded the Irish people as their enemies at that time, not just the IRA). |
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What we would now call terrorists. IRA men did not go around doing good things, they murdered people.
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Though the story was interesting this didn't feel like an episode of WDYTYA at all.
The focus seems to be getting even more narrow. It used to cover several generations, then more recently started focussing on the life of one particular family member. But tonight was basically about a single event, the murder of his grandfather. |
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I'm afraid I found tonight's programme thoroughly tedious. It gave the impression that the British were the " baddies" while the IRA were angels. Sadly, there was as much violence on both sides and, of course, the IRA carried that violence forward for many years after the 1920s.
How many more programmes must we have about Ireland and it's hardship? Surely the BBC can find more interesting people than O'Carroll! |
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Eeer the British were ruling land that isn't Britain. Of course we were the bad guys.
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The British were very much the "baddies" in Ireland at this time. Your ignorance is outstanding. Open a history book.
Come forward to the seventies and you have certain people pretending to be politicians while concealing their guns and bombs. And let's not forget the disappeared. As stated in the programme innocent people were intimidated by the republicans their lives were threatened if they dared to speak the truth so the baddies weren't just on one side. Last night's programme became a murder mystery and I felt it glossed over what drew the grandfather to the attention of the security forces. What really annoyed me was those glasses Brendan was wearing going up & down on his head, round the neck, on his forehead and back again. |
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Originally posted by PatrickBateman1 I never suggested they weren't but the programme conveniently overlooked (deliberately?) that the terrorist IRA were equally bad. Throughout the programme the British were referred to as the Occupying Force, they were not, Ireland was British. Let's not revise history for our own convenience.
The British were very much the "baddies" in Ireland at this time. Your ignorance is outstanding. Open a history book. |
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