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Old 09-10-2014, 23:53
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I just noticed your post above so felt compelled to answer. Maybe there was no such thing as an army pension in those days. If you were poor back then, tough luck! There was no welfare state in those days. Old age pensions were introduced for the general public in 1908 (by a Liberal government).
Chelsea out-pensioners ...

During the reign of King William III and Queen Mary II, the Royal Hospital was still under construction, so they introduced a system for distribution of army pensions in 1689. The pension was to be made available to all former soldiers who had been injured in service, or who had served for more than 20 years.
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Old 10-10-2014, 07:45
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They could have pointed out to her that not that not long before that time, getting involved in counterfeit coins could result in a much nastier punishment.
My g-g-father was a City of London policeman, and when i looked for him at Oldbailey.com (or whatever the name is) I saw that he'd given evidence in the trial of somebody accused of passing, (sorry, uttering), fake cons
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Old 10-10-2014, 08:54
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Interesting or not, I think it's so important for people today to realise how fortunate the vast majority of us are not to have to work as skivvies, prositutes or petty criminals in order to survive. We must never forget all those who fought hard for ordinary working people to have the decent standard of living most of us enjoy today - certainly compared with back then. (Some might say it's gone too far the other way, but it's the lesser of the evils as far as I'm concerned.)
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It was one of those "mystery" ones when it started out, as she had no idea about her Mother's family, and did not know why.

Obviously if they were ashamed of the crime, poverty and workhouse they would not have talked about it - could also have easily have been any number of reasons like illegitamacy or bigamy etc as has been found in other episodes.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:03
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I was a bit disappointed that they didn't make any effort to track what happened to Twiggys grandmother (Alice?). She didn't go into the workhouse when the family split up - I think they said she was 12 then so presume she may have gone into service? As she was the one who started the search off, Twiggy not even knowing her name at first or anything at all about her, it would have been interesting to know how well she did. She didn't seem to know very much more about her at the end then she did at the beginning.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:06
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I think she looks fantastic and so natural. I found myself looking more at her clothes than anything else though - I really liked that blue jacket she was wearing (and her blue glasses )
That turquoisey blue jacket was stunning on her wasn't it. Couldn't find it on the M&S website though, sadly
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:51
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I really enjoyed twiggy's story. Such a lovely lady and her finding it funny at the demise of (forgot the relatives name) at being crushed in a sale
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:58
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I really enjoyed twiggy's story. Such a lovely lady and her finding it funny at the demise of (forgot the relatives name) at being crushed in a sale
I thought she was very natural and unaffected throughout. It really was one of those I shouldn't laugh but --- moments!
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Old 10-10-2014, 13:33
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Thoroughly enjoyed Twiggy's segment. I'd wrongly thought she was Cockney. Agree w/ JR; she was natural and unaffected.

Going to share program w/ my childhood girlfriends--we used to save our $$ to buy Teen Magazine and Twiggy was front & center! Oh, how we wanted to look like her. LOL. Treasured memories.
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Old 10-10-2014, 14:20
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I was a bit disappointed that they didn't make any effort to track what happened to Twiggys grandmother (Alice?). She didn't go into the workhouse when the family split up - I think they said she was 12 then so presume she may have gone into service? As she was the one who started the search off, Twiggy not even knowing her name at first or anything at all about her, it would have been interesting to know how well she did. She didn't seem to know very much more about her at the end then she did at the beginning.
There is usually further information online after the programme. I would think at 12 she would definitely be working.
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Old 10-10-2014, 14:24
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I thought she was very natural and unaffected throughout. It really was one of those I shouldn't laugh but --- moments!
I was so pleased she did not blub like others have done.

I don't understand someone getting upset over someone from a hundred years ago that they never knew.
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Old 10-10-2014, 14:37
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I was so pleased she did not blub like others have done.

I don't understand someone getting upset over someone from a hundred years ago that they never knew.
I don't think I have 'blubbed' but I have certainly been moved when discovering sadder aspects of my family. Silly things like two Great Great Grandparents dying paupers (one in the workhouse), deaths quite close together but buried in separate graves a row apart. Nearly always moving to find an ancestor in an unmarked grave. Child killed when dress caught fire in front of the fire, another after drinking something poisonous by accident,


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Old 10-10-2014, 14:50
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I don't think I have 'blubbed' but I have certainly been moved when discovering sadder aspects of my family. Silly things like two Great Great Grandparents dying paupers (one in the workhouse), deaths quite close together but buried in separate graves a row apart. Nearly always moving to find an ancestor in an unmarked grave. Child killed when dress caught fire in front of the fire, another after drinking something poisonous by accident,


More details of Twiggy here.
Thanks for that - I will have a good look at it later on.
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Old 10-10-2014, 15:27
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She was lovely wasn't she.
The thing that upset me was the terrible poverty during those Victorian days. My God, those poor people having to go to the workhouse. Their sad faces - dreadful. We have it so good these days.
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Old 10-10-2014, 16:11
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Also, I'd like to defend Twiggy. It's so refreshing to see a 65-year-old celebrity female without any apparent trace of botox or fillers. She looks great and puts those 20-somethings and 30-somethings who feel the need to fill their faces with chemical junk to shame. Bravo Twiggy!!
Agreed and her older sister looked very good for someone over 80.

Not WDYTYA but for anybody interested in such things I would strongly recommend watching Jamie Baulch - Looking for my birth mum that was broadcast on BBC Wales last night and available on iplayer. Riveting watch but a box of tissues will come in handy.
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Old 10-10-2014, 16:14
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Agreed and her older sister looked very good for someone over 80.
Over 80!? She did look good. They must have good genes. I hope I look as good if I ever get to that age.
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Old 10-10-2014, 16:19
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She was lovely wasn't she.
The thing that upset me was the terrible poverty during those Victorian days. My God, those poor people having to go to the workhouse. Their sad faces - dreadful. We have it so good these days.
Try and get hold of this book, still some incredible poverty in some areas between the World Wars. Makes rather a mockery of the claims of 'poverty' in the UK today when people have large screen TV, Sky, XBoxes and Playstations, iPads etc etc but politicians (opposition of course) claim they are in 'poverty'.

Struggle or Starve: Women's Lives in the South Wales Valleys Between the Two World Wars
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Old 10-10-2014, 18:58
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Nigel next week. Looking forward to it.
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Old 10-10-2014, 19:14
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Nigel next week. Looking forward to it.
Nigel who? I thought Twiggy was the end of the series?
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Old 10-10-2014, 19:22
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Nigel who? I thought Twiggy was the end of the series?
It was. Maybe the poster is watching repeats with Nigel Havers.
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Old 11-10-2014, 03:16
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Was contacted via Ancestry.co.uk by someone who as a kid knew my great-grandfather.

The pub that my great-grandfather ran for nearly 50 years is being refurbished and they want to invite the family to the re-opening despite no family member being involved with it for 45 years.

The Saddle Inn in Marton, Blackpool if anyone's interested in paying a visit
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Old 11-10-2014, 21:19
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Agreed and her older sister looked very good for someone over 80.

Not WDYTYA but for anybody interested in such things I would strongly recommend watching Jamie Baulch - Looking for my birth mum that was broadcast on BBC Wales last night and available on iplayer. Riveting watch but a box of tissues will come in handy.
Thankyou for tellng us about this programme. Have just watched it. Always was curious about Jamie whilst following his athletics career.
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Old 11-10-2014, 23:11
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Nigel who? I thought Twiggy was the end of the series?
LOL! Yes, I live outside of your country. Sorry for the confusion
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Old 12-10-2014, 17:51
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Enjoyed Twiggy's story more than I thought I would. A decent series with Reggie Yates being the low point(where he went and who he met were more interesting than the actual family story)
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Old 28-10-2014, 00:52
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Try and get hold of this book, still some incredible poverty in some areas between the World Wars. Makes rather a mockery of the claims of 'poverty' in the UK today when people have large screen TV, Sky, XBoxes and Playstations, iPads etc etc but politicians (opposition of course) claim they are in 'poverty'.

Struggle or Starve: Women's Lives in the South Wales Valleys Between the Two World Wars
Ah, but if the main party who's in government today had had their way back then, people would have continued living in poverty like that much, much longer. Who do you think brought in welfare and the NHS? Not them; that's for sure!
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Old 28-10-2014, 22:32
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Ah, but if the main party who's in government today had had their way back then, people would have continued living in poverty like that much, much longer. Who do you think brought in welfare and the NHS? Not them; that's for sure!
Yes they would have done. There was a White Paper drawn up in 1944 suggesting some sort of reform of health provision. In the party manifestos of 1945 the Conservative policy for an NHS was close to what we ended up with, the Liberal one not far off it. The Labour one was vague and washy washy with no detail. To suggest that Labour was the only party prepared to bring in such a reform is misleading and erroneous.
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