That was my question as well. I just can't imagine killing my own child. I think dying trying to protect them would have been an easier choice. But then I suppose your wife and children would have been left to suffer rape and possibly an even slower death.
All in the name of religion again, we learn nothing from history.

Excellent programme. I knew a little about partition but didn't expect some of those revelations.

As for the scrolls, I expect they decided it would be a great way to end the programme. Update the family history and light a candle for the family....and it was.

Weren't they often outnumbered in one particular area?

They did say that it worked both ways and that in other areas Hindus and Sikhs were killing Muslims.

I suppose it fits with 'honour killings' still happening today where women are murdered because they are considered to have dishonoured their family.

Very significant that it was remembered in the family that the son had been killed but the daughter had been forgotten.

I hate that phrase. When the press use it it's almost like they're allowing the murderers to justify their actions. They should just call it cold-blooded murder as that's what it is.

But it is one specific type of cold-blooded murder and needs a term to distinguish from other cold-blooded murders.

I think her outrage was saved for the " brave " men of the village who would rather kill their wives and daughters than have the very great risk of them surviving a rape [ and therefore be worthless as a wife and a non-virgin daughter ] by men of a different religion.

Husband , uncles and brothers in Manchuria , Russia and Germany in the 1930s-40s didn't summarily execute their wives and sisters when they had been raped and abused by soldiers of an invading army.

'Honour killing' isn't the right phrase to use as it makes it sound almost acceptable.

What alternative do you suggest? It needs a specific description to identify it.

Another possibility is their dad (Anita's grandad) never talked about it but they saw the picture which is why they knew there was a boy.

It's difficult, but I agree with this article where it says "The term "honour killing" not only cedes too much power to the perpetrator, but is offensive to survivors and women."

But it needs some way of differentiating it as a particularly nasty type of murder.

I wonder if a term could be found to include parents killing children after a divorce as a way of getting revenge against their ex-partner. There are similarities between the two types of murder.

Where's the last programme in the series with Frances de la Tour? Next week The Apprentice starts its run at 9.00 on Thursday?

2 Apprentice eps that week she one the week after.

I'm just watching the Frank Gardner episode which I'm really enjoying. However I'm surprised at his ignorance when he didn't appear to know that Edward I was a direct descendant of William the Conqueror!

Oh right.
I saw a hand surgeon recently who is an expert in dealing with this condition, and he imparted this information to me. For the moment, I have decided not to have the operation as the success rate is not good.

Nobody watched the Mark Gatiss episode?

Can't say I am surprised - it was (for me) probably the most boring ep of the entire series.

I found it quite interesting, perhaps dragged out a bit longer than necessary. They kept mentioning the place where his ancestor lived and I was expecting to see it but they left it to the end.

Frances de la Tour tonight. Should be good.

Yes, an hour on the one side of the family was a bit much. I'd have liked to have known about the Gatiss side, quite an unusual name alone.


"Lady Gardener" and not a titter from anybody.

I noticed her two brothers looking at each other and giggling at that point. We also thought it was hysterical when Francis was looking at that drawing and mentioned one lady's 'huge muff!"

I thought that was an interesting episode to finish the series.


If Frances DeLaTour had watched The Scandalous Lady W before recording WDYTYA she would have known all about criminal conversation!

I found her a bit irritating. I just wish they would have an expert with the subject all the way through the programme rather than leave them to uninformed speculation when they are often talk complete rubbish.

She seemed obsessed about finding aristocracy in her family. And then said she had ambivalent feelings about aristocrats.

When they showed her the portrait of her 4x gt grandmother next to a portrait of her father, she could have said that was her 5xgt grandfather. On previous editions they have said that an aristocrat is a portal ancestor which opens up the tree back many generations even to the Normans, or in one case back to Adam and Eve.