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Hmmm, lets see.
Wasn't Matthew Pinsent also descended from William the Conqueror?? And when they did his "full" genealogy back from William, according to medieval family tree stuff as a king he was descended directly from God. Thank goodness they decided not to tell this to Danny Dyer. |
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Earl of Essex and King of the Cockneys drinks in the Anne Boleyn pub
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I love Danny. One of the best episodes in a long time.
Mr Dyer is a Diamond
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All cockneys don't walk like that.
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Good opening episode, entertaining & interesting.
*give aaahs a look at 'is smudge*
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Good opening episode, entertaining & interesting.
*give aaahs a look at 'is smudge* ![]() For a series they always put the very best episode first . Really enjoyed tonights not a big Danny Dwyer fan and his accent is a bit annoying but its interesting. |
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Alexander Armstrong and Matthew Pinsent are both descended from William the Conqueror, if I remember correctly. Boris Johnson is descended from George the 1st, I think. Brooke Shields is also descended from Royalty but I can't remember who, I'd have to google her.
I thought DD's episode was good, but his cockney geezer persona did irritate me a bit. It was an interesting story but spoilt by him not knowing very much and having to play the Cockney hardman all the way through |
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It's all a bit deceptive, we're probably all related to royalty if you go back far enough. Danny Dyer went back to his 15x grandfather - what they didn't say is that Danny had over 32,000 15x great grandfathers. If each of those only had an average of 2 children they would have each had 32,000 15x great granchildren. And, combined, Danny's 15x grand fathers would have had over 32 million offspring like Danny.
Going back to his 22x great grandfather, Edward III, the numbers become ridiculous. The really tricky bit is finding all the documents to prove the lineage. |
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I'm sure I read somewhere that most U.S. presidents can trace their ancestry back to the Plantaganets.
Not sure if it's true or not. |
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From Cromwell plus all the way back through Royalty from Edward III to William the Conqueror.
Really enjoyed that. |
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Actually, we are not all related to royalty. Royal families through history have married other royalty. Not much chance of ordinary jo being related to them.
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Actually, we are not all related to royalty. Royal families through history have married other royalty. Not much chance of ordinary jo being related to them.
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Well I enjoyed it.
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All Hail King Danny,Earl of Essex - sorted !
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Thats not true though. Royals tended to have very big familes as so the 4th daughter might marry someone although still nobility not as high as the royals they then have several kids etc I think most people whos families have been in Britain for more than two generations can probably find they have royal connections if you can find the documents going back far enough.
James 1st - 2 surviving children. Charles 1st - 4 surviving children. William and Mary - no children. |
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Not true. Henry 8th - 2 children. Elizabeth 1st - no children. Edward 6th - no children.
James 1st - 2 surviving children. Charles 1st - 4 surviving children. William and Mary - no children. William the Conqueror - 10 children Henry I - 12 children Henry II - 10 children John - 5 children Edward I - 9 children and these are just the known issues and don't count illegitimate children. From there its a numbers game, pretty much everyone in the UK who's family have been here more than three generations have a very high percent chance of being related to royalty, the hard part is proving it. oh and Henry VIII had 6 acknowledged children. (though not a great argument as they all died as children or had no children of their own) and around another 5-10 illegitimate children. |
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I`d just like to say, that is how all cockneys walk.
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According to him, he's a brilliant actor (where's the roll-eyes smiley when you need it?). If you don't want to read the whole interview, scroll down to below the baby picture.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-would-be-king IMHO he is one of the worst actors I have ever seen. Chronically overacts in Eastenders |
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According to him, he's a brilliant actor (where's the roll-eyes smiley when you need it?). If you don't want to read the whole interview, scroll down to below the baby picture.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...-would-be-king |
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I still have to watch this - it was on an hour earlier so I forgot. I can't stand Danny Dyer, Amanda Holden and one of the other celebs on [edit - just realised it is Cheryl Cole, who is advertised just as Cheryl
] but I like the programme and some of the other people featured ie Ian McKellen and Warwick Davis, so it is interesting enough to watch even if there are prats being featured.Wikipedia on Danny Dyer says: His 14× great grandmother was Elizabeth Seymour, the sister of Jane Seymour, who was Henry VIII’s third wife and Queen. Elizabeth married Cromwell’s son, Gregory Cromwell, and with the Seymour family’s assertion to be descended from Edward III, the line stretches back to William the Conqueror. So how did they prove it or is it all hearsay on the part of the Seymours? |
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From Cromwell plus all the way back through Royalty from Edward III to William the Conqueror.
Really enjoyed that. |
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He's a one trick pony. Check out all the films he has been in. All about thugs and gangs and violence.
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It's all a bit deceptive, we're probably all related to royalty if you go back far enough. Danny Dyer went back to his 15x grandfather - what they didn't say is that Danny had over 32,000 15x great grandfathers. If each of those only had an average of 2 children they would have each had 32,000 15x great granchildren. And, combined, Danny's 15x grand fathers would have had over 32 million offspring like Danny.
Going back to his 22x great grandfather, Edward III, the numbers become ridiculous. The really tricky bit is finding all the documents to prove the lineage. |
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He's a one trick pony. Check out all the films he has been in. All about thugs and gangs and violence.
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Great episode. I found it incredibly moving at the end when he found out his connection to Edward III and William the Conqueror.
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