DS Forums

 
 

Who Do you Think You Are? New Series


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 25-11-2016, 14:44
marj17
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 111
If you didn't know that Danny Dyer was an actor you would never have guessed from this programme, completely wooden, absolutely no intonation in his voice, no expressions on his face, (rubbing his face constantly when given some information) and strutting around London like he owned the place. Utterly dire!
marj17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 25-11-2016, 15:29
lundavra
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 25,458
There will be many illegitimate children in there also.
As in all families.
lundavra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 15:30
Hamlet77
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Liverpool. Champions of Europe
Posts: 15,512
It reminded me of the various Scousers who get accused of speaking stronger 'Scouse' than people living in Liverpool - I think one tried to explain in earlier the year why he tended to speak thicker 'Scouse' because he now lived somewhere else but can't remember what his argument was.
Being a scouser I detest the fake Scouse accent. I'm not that fond of the real one either.
Hamlet77 is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 15:35
JVS
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 8,735
Sorry I just think Danny Dyer gives geezers a bad name, that or he is a geezers geezer.

I've not known many cockneys in my time, and surely he is not your typical London boy? Is he?
From The Spectator;

Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ ... it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030....
JVS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 15:56
Dragonlady 25
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,038
Being a scouser I detest the fake Scouse accent. I'm not that fond of the real one either.
Snap on all counts!!
Dragonlady 25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 15:59
vanessalou
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 183
When we went to a Cats Does Countdown taping, Dyer was the only one (other than Jimmy Carr) to acknowledge the audience and say "hello" and "bye" and what not. Everyone else walked on, did their bit and left without so much as a glance.
My son is a photographer, and worked for the company who did the photos in Danny's book last year. He said Danny was one of the nicest people he had worked with, he was friendly, polite, open to suggestions about posing, and stopped to have a beer afterwards with them. Not a geezer, but a gent. In contrast the made in Chelsea lot are a bunch of entitled idiots, who treat everyone like s**t.
vanessalou is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:06
Aurora13
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 10,591
It's all a bit deceptive, we're probably all related to royalty if you go back far enough. Danny Dyer went back to his 15x grandfather - what they didn't say is that Danny had over 32,000 15x great grandfathers. If each of those only had an average of 2 children they would have each had 32,000 15x great granchildren. And, combined, Danny's 15x grand fathers would have had over 32 million offspring like Danny.

Going back to his 22x great grandfather, Edward III, the numbers become ridiculous.

The really tricky bit is finding all the documents to prove the lineage.
..... and that was what was so good about last night. They did it with Danny Dyer. Why get fussy about statistical probabilities when show was about one man and his story. The fact that this time it was Danny Dyer who could trace his ancestry back to grand beginnings rather than public school boys Matthew Pinsent and Boris Johnson made it all the more unlikely.

I'm no particular fan of Danny Dyer but I thought it was a return to form for the series as it had become very staid. Whole programmes about one relative perhaps only 2 or 3 generations back. Spending more time preaching social history rather than tracing ancestors.

Anyway who wants Royalty in their ancestry when you can have a hangman. LOL.
Aurora13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:11
harrypalmer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Les Pays-Bas
Posts: 1,468
From The Spectator;

Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ ... it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030....
There's a Parkinson interview with Peter Sellers on You Tube where he goes through a few old-style cockney accents, one is very Michael Caine .Even Kenneth Williams's real accent is genuine cockney, far more so than some of the clowns you hear today.
harrypalmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:16
harrypalmer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Les Pays-Bas
Posts: 1,468
Erm, Tomlinson was convicted in 1973, when Thatcher was Education Secretary! Still, lefty militants and facts are quite unfamiliar to each other.

Tweedy was convicted of assault and given community service and a fine; she was acquitted on the racial aspect. Tomlinson got 2 years for a campaign of intimidation plus he has been a member of the National Front. Not really similar, is it?
I know perfectly well when he was convicted. I didn't say it was during Thatcher's premiership I was alluding to the fact that the same dubious charge was used en masse during the miners strikes which was under her premiership.

In any case Tory approaches to law and order didn't shift between the Heath and Thatcher administrations.

Learn to parse a sentence before flapping your lips.
harrypalmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:25
anyonefortennis
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 🇬🇧
Posts: 60,749
I see people still prefer to continually talk about things completely irrelevant to the programme instead of just discussing the new series. No wonder nobody posted on here last night.
anyonefortennis is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:35
luckylegs
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Parliment Sq waving a banner
Posts: 3,286
My son is a photographer, and worked for the company who did the photos in Danny's book last year. He said Danny was one of the nicest people he had worked with, he was friendly, polite, open to suggestions about posing, and stopped to have a beer afterwards with them. Not a geezer, but a gent. In contrast the made in Chelsea lot are a bunch of entitled idiots, who treat everyone like s**t.
He probably is which is why he would be better if he stopped doing the caricature of what he thinks cockneys should be like.
luckylegs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:43
catsitter
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,237
I see people still prefer to continually talk about things completely irrelevant to the programme instead of just discussing the new series. No wonder nobody posted on here last night.
Or was it because someone started a separate thread about last night's episode?
catsitter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 16:55
harrypalmer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Les Pays-Bas
Posts: 1,468
It has to be said that it appears he's not been overtaken by the idea that he's above a photo opportunity with the general public. He stopped for selfie photos and people seem to like him.
Maybe he is a bit rough around the edges, but if he's decent, then so what. There's loads of so-so actors about who are awful people.
harrypalmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 17:14
mickmars
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: 1984
Posts: 7,099
From The Spectator;

Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ ... it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030....
Danny doesnt do that jamaican nonsense - He is more of an 80's type cockney.as seen in TV shows like Minder
mickmars is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 17:20
marj17
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 111
[ QUOTE=harrypalmer;84678725]He's a bit of a tit isn't he? Chap needs deportment lessons to get shut of that silly walk (or a government grant to develop it).

In full cockney geezer mode he goes too far and ends up sounding a bit camp.[/quote]
marj17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 17:21
marj17
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 111
The walk !!!!' Makes me laugh , he walks like he has wet himself
Clearly thinks he's something big in the East End, he's not!
marj17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 17:23
marj17
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 111
Never seen him before, just read the earlier comments about his ego. Might not be a good actor but I got the impression that he was acting all the way the way through the programme.
If you can call that acting, he is awful.
marj17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 17:29
Pitman
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: London
Posts: 16,515
He probably is which is why he would be better if he stopped doing the caricature of what he thinks cockneys should be like.
he wouldn't have much of a career though

being a caricature has been a nice little earner for him, he would still be working on a building site if he hadn't developed his Artful dodger routine

he's not a cockney either, in Columbia Road they'd call him a country bumpkin
Pitman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 17:51
anyonefortennis
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 🇬🇧
Posts: 60,749
Or was it because someone started a separate thread about last night's episode?
Oh did they? Didn't notice.
anyonefortennis is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 18:04
luckylegs
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Parliment Sq waving a banner
Posts: 3,286
he wouldn't have much of a career though

being a caricature has been a nice little earner for him, he would still be working on a building site if he hadn't developed his Artful dodger routine

he's not a cockney either, in Columbia Road they'd call him a country bumpkin
Yes I know anyone east of the Blackwall Tunnel is in the country to me
luckylegs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 18:18
SeasideLady
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 15,465
Enjoyed this episode, lots of detail and they didn't just concentrate on one or two relatives on one side like they sometimes do. He came across as very ignorant though - amazed he couldn't pronounce Plantagenet for instance.
SeasideLady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 20:04
Heston Veston
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,063
It's all a bit deceptive, we're probably all related to royalty if you go back far enough. Danny Dyer went back to his 15x grandfather - what they didn't say is that Danny had over 32,000 15x great grandfathers. If each of those only had an average of 2 children they would have each had 32,000 15x great granchildren. And, combined, Danny's 15x grand fathers would have had over 32 million offspring like Danny.

Going back to his 22x great grandfather, Edward III, the numbers become ridiculous.

The really tricky bit is finding all the documents to prove the lineage.
If you're connected to nobility of any sort you can get back quite far.

If your ancestors actually worked for a living - not so much, 16th/17th century if you're lucky.
Heston Veston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 21:23
towers
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Midlands, UK
Posts: 10,943
Not true. Henry 8th - 2 children. Elizabeth 1st - no children. Edward 6th - no children.
James 1st - 2 surviving children. Charles 1st - 4 surviving children. William and Mary - no children.
Henry 8th had three children: Mary, Elizabeth and Edward. To the back of the class with you..

Not a fan of DD but I did find his episode interesting, especially the last 15 minutes of course.
towers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 21:26
harrypalmer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Les Pays-Bas
Posts: 1,468
Oh did they? Didn't notice.
Sure. It must have the disguised title thwarting you.

Is acting nonchalant still cool?
harrypalmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-11-2016, 21:35
anyonefortennis
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: 🇬🇧
Posts: 60,749
Sure. It must have the disguised title thwarting you.

Is acting nonchalant still cool?
Acting a dick isn't 🙄
anyonefortennis is online now   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 13:08.