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If you didn't know that Danny Dyer was an actor you would never have guessed from this programme, completely wooden, absolutely no intonation in his voice, no expressions on his face, (rubbing his face constantly when given some information) and strutting around London like he owned the place. Utterly dire!
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There will be many illegitimate children in there also.
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It reminded me of the various Scousers who get accused of speaking stronger 'Scouse' than people living in Liverpool - I think one tried to explain in earlier the year why he tended to speak thicker 'Scouse' because he now lived somewhere else but can't remember what his argument was.
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Sorry I just think Danny Dyer gives geezers a bad name, that or he is a geezers geezer.
I've not known many cockneys in my time, and surely he is not your typical London boy? Is he? Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ ... it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030.... |
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Being a scouser I detest the fake Scouse accent. I'm not that fond of the real one either.
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When we went to a Cats Does Countdown taping, Dyer was the only one (other than Jimmy Carr) to acknowledge the audience and say "hello" and "bye" and what not. Everyone else walked on, did their bit and left without so much as a glance.
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It's all a bit deceptive, we're probably all related to royalty if you go back far enough. Danny Dyer went back to his 15x grandfather - what they didn't say is that Danny had over 32,000 15x great grandfathers. If each of those only had an average of 2 children they would have each had 32,000 15x great granchildren. And, combined, Danny's 15x grand fathers would have had over 32 million offspring like Danny.
Going back to his 22x great grandfather, Edward III, the numbers become ridiculous. The really tricky bit is finding all the documents to prove the lineage. I'm no particular fan of Danny Dyer but I thought it was a return to form for the series as it had become very staid. Whole programmes about one relative perhaps only 2 or 3 generations back. Spending more time preaching social history rather than tracing ancestors. Anyway who wants Royalty in their ancestry when you can have a hangman. LOL. |
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From The Spectator;
Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ ... it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030.... |
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Erm, Tomlinson was convicted in 1973, when Thatcher was Education Secretary! Still, lefty militants and facts are quite unfamiliar to each other.
Tweedy was convicted of assault and given community service and a fine; she was acquitted on the racial aspect. Tomlinson got 2 years for a campaign of intimidation plus he has been a member of the National Front. Not really similar, is it? In any case Tory approaches to law and order didn't shift between the Heath and Thatcher administrations. Learn to parse a sentence before flapping your lips. |
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I see people still prefer to continually talk about things completely irrelevant to the programme instead of just discussing the new series. No wonder nobody posted on here last night.
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My son is a photographer, and worked for the company who did the photos in Danny's book last year. He said Danny was one of the nicest people he had worked with, he was friendly, polite, open to suggestions about posing, and stopped to have a beer afterwards with them. Not a geezer, but a gent. In contrast the made in Chelsea lot are a bunch of entitled idiots, who treat everyone like s**t.
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I see people still prefer to continually talk about things completely irrelevant to the programme instead of just discussing the new series. No wonder nobody posted on here last night.
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It has to be said that it appears he's not been overtaken by the idea that he's above a photo opportunity with the general public. He stopped for selfie photos and people seem to like him.
Maybe he is a bit rough around the edges, but if he's decent, then so what. There's loads of so-so actors about who are awful people. |
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From The Spectator;
Over the past decade, however, the Cockney of my generation has been replaced with the street slang known as ‘Jafaican’, a form of patois picked up by black yout’ ... it has been suggested by experts in linguistics and dialect that Jafaican will have completely replaced Cockney by 2030.... |
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[ QUOTE=harrypalmer;84678725]He's a bit of a tit isn't he? Chap needs deportment lessons to get shut of that silly walk (or a government grant to develop it).
In full cockney geezer mode he goes too far and ends up sounding a bit camp.[/quote] ![]()
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The walk !!!!' Makes me laugh , he walks like he has wet himself
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Never seen him before, just read the earlier comments about his ego. Might not be a good actor but I got the impression that he was acting all the way the way through the programme.
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He probably is which is why he would be better if he stopped doing the caricature of what he thinks cockneys should be like.
![]() ![]() being a caricature has been a nice little earner for him, he would still be working on a building site if he hadn't developed his Artful dodger routine ![]() he's not a cockney either, in Columbia Road they'd call him a country bumpkin
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Or was it because someone started a separate thread about last night's episode?
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he wouldn't have much of a career though
![]() being a caricature has been a nice little earner for him, he would still be working on a building site if he hadn't developed his Artful dodger routine ![]() he's not a cockney either, in Columbia Road they'd call him a country bumpkin ![]()
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Enjoyed this episode, lots of detail and they didn't just concentrate on one or two relatives on one side like they sometimes do. He came across as very ignorant though - amazed he couldn't pronounce Plantagenet for instance.
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It's all a bit deceptive, we're probably all related to royalty if you go back far enough. Danny Dyer went back to his 15x grandfather - what they didn't say is that Danny had over 32,000 15x great grandfathers. If each of those only had an average of 2 children they would have each had 32,000 15x great granchildren. And, combined, Danny's 15x grand fathers would have had over 32 million offspring like Danny.
Going back to his 22x great grandfather, Edward III, the numbers become ridiculous. The really tricky bit is finding all the documents to prove the lineage. If your ancestors actually worked for a living - not so much, 16th/17th century if you're lucky. |
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Not true. Henry 8th - 2 children. Elizabeth 1st - no children. Edward 6th - no children.
James 1st - 2 surviving children. Charles 1st - 4 surviving children. William and Mary - no children. Not a fan of DD but I did find his episode interesting, especially the last 15 minutes of course. |
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Oh did they? Didn't notice.
Is acting nonchalant still cool? |
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Sure. It must have the disguised title thwarting you.
Is acting nonchalant still cool? |
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