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Old 17-12-2016, 15:19
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I though Cheryl came across really well, and the programme was interesting. I'm surprised that Cheryl's mum had no known foreign ancestry, despite being very dark.
I was expecting that as well, Cheryl looked like her mum when younger.
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Old 17-12-2016, 17:00
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I have watched none of this series. I have no interest in any of the z listers shown so far.
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Old 17-12-2016, 17:12
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I agree ^ I saw the Amanda Holden programme the previous week and that was the pits. All the over-emoting , "oh my gods" and try too hard glamour.
Cheryl, as dull as she may be, was less grating. Plus she wasn't claiming to be smart- was upfront that she didn't know much about basic history.

As for stilted, agree with you - is the bad press getting to her?

Will take the thread's tip and check out the Liz Bonin one on catch -up.
I enjoyed the Amanda Holden programme, finding out things about ancestors can be quite emotional even when you had never heard of them previously.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:22
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I have watched none of this series. I have no interest in any of the z listers shown so far.
Thanks. Your comment really added so much value to the discussion.

(I hope get 'rollingeyes' emoticon back in the new forum!)
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Old 18-12-2016, 00:20
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I have watched none of this series. I have no interest in any of the z listers shown so far.
I can understand "Z Lister" being used for people off Reality TV but it seems to be thrown around against anyone that the someone dislikes. I was not impressed by Dyer but I would not call him a Z Lister and similarly for Amanda Holden, Bonnin and Cheryl all of whom are very successful in their careers (I know Cheryl started on a Reality programme but that is a long time ago). Is McKellen also a Z Lister?
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Old 18-12-2016, 07:51
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I have watched none of this series. I have no interest in any of the z listers shown so far.
Your loss. Personally, I'd watch it even if it was only a non celeb. It's the social history aspect that interests me and I've already learnt so much from this series, which has improved greatly from the last couple of series, imo.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:46
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Your loss. Personally, I'd watch it even if it was only a non celeb. It's the social history aspect that interests me and I've already learnt so much from this series, which has improved greatly from the last couple of series, imo.
Often some of the most interesting ones are people who I have never heard of before.
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Old 18-12-2016, 11:34
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I though Cheryl came across really well, and the programme was interesting. I'm surprised that Cheryl's mum had no known foreign ancestry, despite being very dark.
I wondered about the housekeeper (great gran). No mention of where she came from, just that he employed a housekeeper and got her pregnant. Could she have been foreign? She called her children Olga and Rene
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Old 18-12-2016, 14:14
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It's a stage name, do you complain about Sting, Prince, Madonna (surely if anything is prententious then that one is!), Rihanna, Lulu, Boneo, Adele and many, many more.
I am reluctant to point out anyone's spelling mistakes - but I did have to laugh at seeing Boneo (a dog biscuit) rather than Bono.

It was interesting that I think they introduced Cheryl as being "an artist" rather than "a singer" - perhaps someone isn't a fan?

I usually find a Newcastle accent quite appealing, but agree with other comments that her voice on the programme was monotonous.
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Old 18-12-2016, 21:43
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I am reluctant to point out anyone's spelling mistakes - but I did have to laugh at seeing Boneo (a dog biscuit) rather than Bono.

It was interesting that I think they introduced Cheryl as being "an artist" rather than "a singer" - perhaps someone isn't a fan?

I usually find a Newcastle accent quite appealing, but agree with other comments that her voice on the programme was monotonous.
I suspect that Boneo thing is a deliberate joke, sort of thing that tickles some people.
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:30
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It is not uncommon to use a single name in the world of entertainment just in case you have not noticed - Boneo, String, Madonna and many others.
It's a stage name, do you complain about Sting, Prince, Madonna (surely if anything is prententious then that one is!), Rihanna, Lulu, Boneo, Adele and many, many more.
I am reluctant to point out anyone's spelling mistakes - but I did have to laugh at seeing Boneo (a dog biscuit) rather than Bono.
I suspect that Boneo thing is a deliberate joke, sort of thing that tickles some people.
The funniest one was he/she spelled Sting as String. In the interests of disclosure I have made many a silly typo myself
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:08
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Not sure about watching Ricky Tomlinson but I'll give it a go.
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Old 22-12-2016, 20:38
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He's a professional scouser Labourite, which is a bad start, but we'll see.
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:12
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He's a professional scouser Labourite, which is a bad start, but we'll see.
He just came across exactly as you described him. I was brought up in Merseyside and the religious divide was there up until the mid 1970's when I left. I was really looking forward to this but was very disappointed by the programme.
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:57
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Loved this week and confirmed something I have always thought about WDYTYA in that it's success is always driven by the celebrity. I watched the first 10 or so minutes of the Cheryl Cole and Amanda Holden eps and stopped because they are so air headed and vacant. Ricky was genuinely engaging.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:26
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He's a professional scouser Labourite, which is a bad start, but we'll see.
One of the worst editions of WDYTYA that I have seen. Apart from the above, it was the assumptions that he was left to make without any evidence.

I might have dozed off a few times but no mention seem to be made of the first wife of the Richard who married in 1884 (I think) (could have been more than one previous marriages?).
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:49
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I know people might think Im being a bit picky...but hes isnt a scouser. He was born near Blackpool so he wasnt born in Liverpool.
He may have lived all his life from little in Liverpool but hes not a scouser lol.

He was upset at the state of the house his relative would have lived in but that was the times . They wouldnt have been the only ones there was 1000s of families living the same way.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:49
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Loved this week and confirmed something I have always thought about WDYTYA in that it's success is always driven by the celebrity. I watched the first 10 or so minutes of the Cheryl Cole and Amanda Holden eps and stopped because they are so air headed and vacant. Ricky was genuinely engaging.
Completely agree, excellent episode.
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Old 23-12-2016, 00:27
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I know people might think Im being a bit picky...but hes isnt a scouser. He was born near Blackpool so he wasnt born in Liverpool.
He may have lived all his life from little in Liverpool but hes not a scouser lol.

He was upset at the state of the house his relative would have lived in but that was the times . They wouldnt have been the only ones there was 1000s of families living the same way.
I think you're being a bit harsh. As I understand it, he was born near Blackpool, but that was because his pregnant mum was moved away from Liverpool because of the war. He spent his entire life in the city and his family, going back generations, are from Liverpool. I think he qualifies.
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Old 23-12-2016, 00:50
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Tbh I was rather hoping his ancestors would be mill-owners, landed gentry fallen on hard times or beneficiaries of the slave trade. For that matter I'm sure had the researchers tried a little harder they could at least have come up with a member or two of the colonialist oppressors if only via the press-gang.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:03
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Loved this week and confirmed something I have always thought about WDYTYA in that it's success is always driven by the celebrity. I watched the first 10 or so minutes of the Cheryl Cole and Amanda Holden eps and stopped because they are so air headed and vacant. Ricky was genuinely engaging.
I too really enjoyed this weeks episode. Really interesting.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:22
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Loved this week and confirmed something I have always thought about WDYTYA in that it's success is always driven by the celebrity. I watched the first 10 or so minutes of the Cheryl Cole and Amanda Holden eps and stopped because they are so air headed and vacant. Ricky was genuinely engaging.
Agreed. Very interesting episode. Love everything about Liverpool. Ricky made this ep. As you say he's very engaging.
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Old 23-12-2016, 07:33
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Loved this week and confirmed something I have always thought about WDYTYA in that it's success is always driven by the celebrity. I watched the first 10 or so minutes of the Cheryl Cole and Amanda Holden eps and stopped because they are so air headed and vacant. Ricky was genuinely engaging.
You must have been watching something different to what I was watching. To me he came across as thick. He has lived his life in Liverpool so he must have known about the back to back houses and the overcrowding. It was still going on up until the slum clearances after the Second World War. To express surprise at the way people lived was ingenious to say the least.
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Old 23-12-2016, 07:48
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One of the worst editions of WDYTYA that I have seen. Apart from the above, it was the assumptions that he was left to make without any evidence.

I might have dozed off a few times but no mention seem to be made of the first wife of the Richard who married in 1884 (I think) (could have been more than one previous marriages?).
We also noticed that he was described as a Widower, but wondered if I'd dozed off and missed something, (perhaps his wife was related to a local Tory, hahaha); not, in my view, the best episode, as others have said, living conditions at that time were hardly a surprise, and most of us would almost certainly find the same, or, heaven forbid, worse. I'm surprised they didn't go to the archives of the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board - or perhps they did, and couldn't find anything interesting or relavant
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Old 23-12-2016, 08:09
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It did suffer a bit because grinding poverty and early death of the breadwinner in one place is much the same (for the audience) as grinding poverty and early death of the breadwinner in another, and HIGNFY has done this many times before.

But I loved the scene where they showed him a cart like his forefathers drove and he said to the horse words to the effect "I expect your ancestors knew mine".

If ever a man needed a haircut and a beard tidy-up...
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