Yes, I understand that Daley shouldn't have insinuated anything in the first place as he was in a relationship making him arguably more guilty than Hazel, and I completely accept that it was his 100% fault he was ejected as violence against women (and in general) is wrong, but her fans have to accept that she is not an angel, and should have told Daley she didn't want to get involved as he was in a relationship.

I accept that all housemates have flaws (even the ones I like); Gina overreacts when offended, Dexter's motives are unclear and Charlie almost never thinks before she speaks.

Hazel would go up in my estimation if her fans accepted that she is not an angel and isn't perfect, and recognize that she has to take some of the blame in the Dazel situation.

last night show she was confused that she got voted by the public for being the biggest snake in the house

imo she is very two faced and back stabs every hm sooner or later

last night for example callum talking about thunder and soon as he leave the room,he really getting on my nerves now she says,why doesn't she tell callum to his face,like i said two faced she just gets on my nerves

There are literally dozens of anti Hazel threads now.
Why the need to start another one ?

Hazel is one hundred percent innocent. He crossed the line his move.

OP I'm sure you will find that most of her fans or even other housemates fans, have not said that she's entirely innocent of everything.

I've stuck up for her through what happened with Daley, and I've stuck up for her through the subsequent biased interviews given to Katie and Daley on BBOTS that should never have happened when she was stuck in the house not knowing the rage and hatred being built against her as a result of those shows and the media enflaming it, unbeknownst to her. Very unfair.

And I've stuck up for her through this horrible twisted latest task where they've ensured that she's STILL hated on the outside.

Where I haven't stuck up for her has been her overt flirting behaviour in the house. But on hindsight, it's no big crime at all................and certainly not worthy of the complete mindless spite she's been getting by the public and by some very nasty fms.

That said though, I've recently noticed a great many fair-minded fms who have changed their minds about her and whilst still not liking her, they at least don't think she deserved this latest stunt by BB. That's heartening.

Flirting is not a crime! Kissing is not a crime! Attraction is not a crime! Anyone would think Hazel had commited a heinous immoral act!

She's mostly a pleasant and fun girl, she has some sedate sense and sensibility about her lacking in many of the housemates.

This forums moral compass, is set to kill and quite frankly confusing. People complain they see housemates showering with clothes on and yet a kiss between two adults is seized on as if it's the end of the world! It's nuts!

I do not take many of the negative comments about Hazel seriously, as most are juvenile and fuelled by irrational hatred.

Just sit back and put what happened into context.

Are you suggesting that the other hms are not two-faced? You've got to be kidding if it's just Hazel. At least she seemed genuinely annoyed about something that Callum did or said and it wasn't just an act to get the public's attention like a certain other hm on the same highlight show...hint hint nudge nudge, I wonder who, uh?

Hazel herself knows the part she played in the whole thing, she' s not stupid, it's like the elephant in the room. Maybe BB should have given her an elephant costume insteafd
She demands the others tell her why she is a snake, knowing full well they will skirt around the issue as rhey know she is not telling the whole story about what happened in the SH.
She knows what the viewers have seen and what Gina and Dexter commented on.
You are right that she is not 100% innocent , she has modified her behaviour since the event indicating that she knows this too, the fact that she she won't admit it and take some responsibility for her actions is causing her continued unpopularity I believe.
She's this years villain and is obviously annoyed at this.

With a highly edited 45 mins show, do we even know if she's said anything about it in full to the other hms and that BB have chosen not to show it so that she is labeled as this year's villain? I think until she comes out of the house and gives her version, we are never going to know what she's said. All we do know is that BB are determined to keep punishing her and have her come out to a baying mob. That's evident by the latest task where she got every single nasty one going.

It is quite obvious she has not told them the whole story, if she had she wouldn't be demanding they tell her why she is a snake,. If she had big foot Charlie at least would certainly say it's because of that.
Making things up and speculating about what we haven't been shown is pointless and not an acceptable argument IMO.

Sorry, but this isn't making sense to me at all. And making what up? I think my argument was perfectly feasible that in a 24 hour day we have no idea what the hms say or don't say, and therefore perfectly possible that it's been discussed with some of the hms in more detail but BB have chosen not to show it perhaps even for legal reasons. Even on LF they cut the sound out when hms are about to reveal something we think might give us more information about a subject we want to know more about, so why don't you think this is at least possible in this case. The only person in that house who seemed to agree that she was a snake was Gina. Had the other hms thought the same, wouldn't we have seen them in the DR saying it too? Or is it possible that BB cut that out? Which if that's the case, then surely I've proven my point?

So you think it's okay for YOU to fill in the missing pieces as YOU choose, make up a whole load of imaginary stuff then argue that that is what actually happened??
You are speculating and your guess work doesn't add up, it is a fictional argument so as I sad before, a bit of a waste of time.

No you haven't, the whole idea of her getting Dan to say something to the others is so they WOULDN'T ask her about it, so why would you assume that all of a sudden she's going to start spouting about it to them ? She knows she had a part to play in it all and she doesn't want the others to have a reason to nominate her next week. Contrary to what she keeps saying, she's just like the rest in that she wants to keep her options open to win, so why would she give them a reason to nom her ? The others don't know what happened, Gina and Dexter probably have a good idea, but don't know for sure, Dan knows only what she told him at the time, and the others have no idea.

You'd go up in my etimation if you got off your high horse and tried not to talk nonsense.

Hazel is a total user and player and two faced. Pretends to be Charlie's big mate but talks behind her back.

I think I have made valid points in my post to Enidan. If you don't agree, that's fine.

I think even if she hasn't said anything at all, then it could be because BB have told her not to for legal reasons, which could also be valid as opposed to mind reading why she's doing it to save being nominated etc. Because that makes no sense at all considering that she thinks she's going this week and accepting it. So I really don't know why you think she's scared of being nominated. And in any case, if she were allowed to say or has actually said anything, why would they nominate her for her relationship with Daley even if she did describe what happened?

Correct Hazel is guilty of being a beautiful woman who is honest and funloving unlike another female in the house who is the opposite and who will win for just that.

So your new made up story is that BB have told her not to say anything?

How about the possibility that Hazel has not told them because she knows it would make her look like a snake.

I'm not making up any stories, new or otherwise. I'm just rummaging through the possibilities. Or am I not allowed to do that. I thought this was a conversation or even an exploration, but apparently not.

As for the snake thing there was no need for it, but she at least got on with it.

Hazel is honest and not the snake in the house that would be Gina and Dexter nothing real about them.

That cannot be the case, if BB had any concerns regarding legal reasons they would have removed Hazel from the house at the same time as Daley.

I'm talking about legal reasons in terms of Daley being on the outside perhaps seeing solicitors etc, and therefore telling her not to mention the incident again whilst in the house.

You don't seem to grasp the difference between fact and fiction and continue to back yoyr arguments up with any old made up stuff. Why don't you discuss what's actually been shown?
Yes Hazel got on with it, that at least is true, but from what I have actually seen on TV and know to have happened, she is a snake and deserved the costume.

But that is exactly the point, they cannot monitor what Hazel says 24/7 and with every good intention Hazel could slip up easily. BB would be just as responsible for anything Hazel might say outside of legal privilege, it is known as vicarious liability.

Your obviously in a world of your own! I talk about my best mate all the time, often in the negative, so what?