Forcing is an exaggerated term to use. If that's what you call violence, I'm flabbergasted.

And ?
Do you think she was trying to smother him ?
Do you think she would have succeeded considering he is supposed to be a boxer/ sportsman in regular training ?

Sadly she has the worse to come the stupid eviction crowd,
stupid bots audience, and stupid Emma and her interview.
I would not want to go through that.....

Hazel would go up in my estimation if Hazel accepted that she is not an angel and isn't perfect, and recognize that she has to take some of the blame in the Dazel situation.

Only then would the odd few deluded Hazel fans accept the same.

Now where did I say Daley was innocent?

Answer: nowhere! But as usual the Hazel supporter can't answer for HER actions and so have to keep mentioning Daley as an excuse in all their posts.

So "People are responsible for their own thoughts and actions" are they? What about Hazel's sexual assault on Daley? An action that had a man done exactly the same to a woman, they would be removed.

Yes, let's talk exclusively about Hazel and Hazel's unacceptable behaviour. It would make a wonderful change from blaming Daley for all of Hazel's actions.

Then we can move on to why was Hazel economic with the truth when it came to telling the others by leaving out big bits that made her look bad?

In fact, let's face reality for a change shall we?

I can guarantee you that Hazel does accept responsibility, she even apologised to BB and it was obvious she did blame herself . What for I don't know and I hope she is not bullied and browbeaten to taking all the blame.

However I doubt she would change any of her detractor's minds at this stage short of a public flogging.

Did I mention you ? No I didn't .
As to the rest of your post , I have no wish to engage with your sarcasm .

so its alright for dexter to be called a snake but not hazel who by the way was given the title by the great british public, so its pointless her asking the other housemates if she is a snake.

I'm not a fan of any of the housemates, merely a passive observer.
I think any housemate's fans will by nature be fanatical and blind to any flaws the HM may have.

Hazel is inside the house with no contact to the outside world
How can you base your estimation of her on the actions / opinions of others ? She has no awareness or control over her fans - at the moment she's probably thinking she doesn't have any.

Of course she is vain, competitive and self absorbed / self serving but so are all of the contestants . I doubt that any of them went in just for the experience no matter what they say.

Daley is no longer in the house and the incident was dealt with - it wouldn't be appropriate for BB or the HMs to continue to discuss it.
Hazel will finally have her opportunity to put her side of the story across when she comes out. Maybe she will come across as an evil pig maybe not.
Either way it shouldn't matter for the rest of her time in the house.

Viewers should be judging her as a current housemate

Theres a HUGE difference between harmless flirting and manipulating someone, sadly Hazel falls under the latter category hence being branded a snake. I honestly don't understand how anyone can't see this with her? Yes Daley was wrong & there was no excuse for violence but the girl was like a bitch on heat! Desperation dripping out of her every pore...

There was no sexual assault.

yes but i do not think he meant it; still should of been kicked out though.

So you don't think pulling someone's pants down isn't sexual assault?? I beg to differ!!!

If slapping her behind is violence than she was violent two. Can't have it both ways.

Well then, in your opinion, there must be an awful lot of sexual assaults going on in bedrooms around the country every night of the week?

she got warned for pulling his pants down and accepted it without argument .

How could she argue? It was there on camera, her quickly lunging forward and whip, his pants were down.

If Hazel was 100% innocent she would not have got a formal warning.

I didn't say she should argue . I'm saying she did accept the blame for what she did .

[quote=Janey_Dowell;67364900]Yes, I understand that Daley shouldn't have insinuated anything in the first place as he was in a relationship making him arguably more guilty than Hazel, and I completely accept that it was his 100% fault he was ejected as violence against women (and in general) is wrong, but her fans have to accept that she is not an angel, and should have told Daley she didn't want to get involved as he was in a relationship.

I think for me, it's not so much that she flirted with Daley, (as I really think she believed him when he said he and his girlfriend weren't together anymore). It's more the fact that she told Daley that he hadn't offended her or done anything wrong, but then told the other HMs that she was terrified and said in the DR that she felt cornered....but went back into the SH and spent the rest of the night with him.

I do wonder if Emma will actually address that issue when Hazel does finally leave.

I was assuming that if she told the whole story she would be telling the truth, as in how she led Daley to believe she was comfortable with his behaviour however dispicable it was, but then went on to tell BB she felt scared and threatened.

Go into your town centre and do the same to someone and then come back and tell us what you got charged with.

It's really pathetic when people who don't know what they are talking about think that they can correct others.

Touching anyone in any way, including pulling at their clothing can get you an assault charge. And as this one involved exposing the sex organs it WAS sexual assault.

Yes! It's freitening the things people will lie about just to protect Hazel.

As I posted above: Go do it to someone in their town and tell us how they got on before trying to pretend such laws don't exist.

What you don't even get the idea between consent and not consenting?

So you don't know or understand the difference
between sex and rape?

Christ help us!

I would have concerns about anyone who thinks that exposing another persons nether regions without their consent is okay. Just sayin'!