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Old 25-07-2013, 16:49
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Anyone having any luck?

It was supposed to be available yesterday however there has been no update?

Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?
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Old 25-07-2013, 17:05
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This is always the case, it will be rolled out over the next week.
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Old 25-07-2013, 17:24
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I'm looking forward to getting it on my Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 and seeing what minor changes 4.3 has.

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Old 25-07-2013, 17:25
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Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?
I think it's staged by device ID rather than location, so there may be some UK phones that have it and some that don't.

You can download it from here if you're desperate not to wait - be warned, the risks are very small but not non-existant.
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Old 25-07-2013, 17:29
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They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely.

Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.
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Old 25-07-2013, 18:18
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I think it's staged by device ID rather than location, so there may be some UK phones that have it and some that don't.

You can download it from here if you're desperate not to wait - be warned, the risks are very small but not non-existant.
Thats a scutter that guide!!

All you need to do is put the phone into the bootloader, download the file, extract it and hit flash-all.bat.

That's how i did it yesterday.
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Old 25-07-2013, 18:22
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They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely.

Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.
At least Google pushes their updates out within a few days of release. Any ISP locked device will have to wait weeks, months or may never get the update.

From a distribution perspective a staged rollout makes some sense. If any of the people getting the update in the first wave report any critical issues then the whole release can be stopped. Embarrassing for the company but not as bad as everyone getting a bad release at the same time.
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Old 26-07-2013, 12:51
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They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely.

Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.
Awful at pushing out updates? You are not serious. Google want to avoid all the problems Apple have when they push upadtes and crash their servers. And Google put the factory images out there straight away for anyone to download and flash.
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Old 26-07-2013, 14:05
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All you need to do is put the phone into the bootloader, download the file, extract it and hit flash-all.bat.
Does that method keep all of your data?
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Old 26-07-2013, 15:27
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Awful at pushing out updates? You are not serious. Google want to avoid all the problems Apple have when they push upadtes and crash their servers. And Google put the factory images out there straight away for anyone to download and flash.
You are not serious?

You know that Google own Youtube right?

Every nexus device downloading a firmware update at the exact same moment wouldn't even register as a blip on google's servers.
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Old 26-07-2013, 16:34
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To be fair, I've not seen Apple's servers keel over under the weight of a point update. They only seem to struggle slightly with the release of a brand new full blown OS release.

I don't think Google would struggle if they just rolled this out. I had to wait a week for the last update on my Nexus 4. I understand they might want to stagger it a little over a couple of days, but a week seems a long time for a phone which hasn't sold anything like the numbers that Samsung or Apple put out!
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:01
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The Apple servers do tend to slow right down when a new version of iOS is released, and people start to get download error messages. So maybe there's something to be said for a staggered rollout.

That said, the Apple servers are under pressure because ALL iOS devices are updated using that method. The number of Nexus devices around must be very, very low by comparison, so you'd think it would be something they could handle in one go.
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:28
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Does that method keep all of your data?
No.

I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort.

Its also best to start from scratch with an update like this.
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:32
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The Apple servers do tend to slow right down when a new version of iOS is released, and people start to get download error messages. So maybe there's something to be said for a staggered rollout.

That said, the Apple servers are under pressure because ALL iOS devices are updated using that method. The number of Nexus devices around must be very, very low by comparison, so you'd think it would be something they could handle in one go.
Yeah the number of iOS devices must be what 100 times? 1000 times? the number of nexus devices.

And Google has many many times the bandwidth available to apple. For free.
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:33
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No.

I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort.

Its also best to start from scratch with an update like this.
It's best to start from scratch for a minor incremental update?

A source for that?
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:42
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It's best to start from scratch for a minor incremental update?

A source for that?
My source is me and from my days making custom roms.

Its not exactly a minor incremental update anyway. Its adds lots of new things from a whole new kernel and radio to updated bluetooth.

I did do an update to 4.3 but it didn't go well. Random reboots and lock ups.

So personally i think its best to full wipe.
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:45
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My source is me and from my days making custom roms.

Its not exactly a minor incremental update anyway. Its adds lots of new things from a whole new kernel and radio to updated bluetooth.

I did do an update to 4.3 but it didn't go well. Random reboots and lock ups.

So personally i think its best to full wipe.
I disagree.
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Old 26-07-2013, 17:51
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You disagree with what bit?
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Old 26-07-2013, 18:09
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No.

I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort.
That's fair enough; however, I would suggest that most people do want to keep their data intact, which is what the method in that guide does, probably explaining why it's such a "scutter" as you put it.

Yes, all my really important stuff - contacts, emails, SMS history, photos - is backed up in the cloud, but minor stuff - a couple of IAPs, my Temple Run 2 stats, my Tiny Thief / Broken Sword progress, etc - isn't backed up so I'd be a little miffed at losing all of that.
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Old 26-07-2013, 18:16
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That's fair enough; however, I would suggest that most people do want to keep their data intact, which is what the method in that guide does, probably explaining why it's such a "scutter" as you put it.

Yes, all my really important stuff - contacts, emails, SMS history, photos - is backed up in the cloud, but minor stuff - a couple of IAPs, my Temple Run 2 stats, my Tiny Thief / Broken Sword progress, etc - isn't backed up so I'd be a little miffed at losing all of that.
Good point!
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Old 26-07-2013, 23:23
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Anyone having any luck?

It was supposed to be available yesterday however there has been no update?

Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?
I got the OTA update for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 tonight.
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Old 26-07-2013, 23:40
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I also got 4.3 OTA on my 303K around 21:30.
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Old 27-07-2013, 08:35
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I got the OTA update to my Nexus 7 this morning but not to my Nexus 4. Why is that.

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Old 27-07-2013, 08:44
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I got the OTA update to my Nexus 7 this morning but not to my Nexus 4. Why is that.

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because the process is gradual.
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Old 27-07-2013, 08:44
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4.3 ready to update on my n4 this morning
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