4.3 on NEXUS 4

late8 · 25-07-2013, 16:49

Anyone having any luck?

It was supposed to be available yesterday however there has been no update?

Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?

Gormond · 25-07-2013, 17:05

This is always the case, it will be rolled out over the next week.

ney · 25-07-2013, 17:24

I'm looking forward to getting it on my Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 and seeing what minor changes 4.3 has.

Darren

pi r squared · 25-07-2013, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by late8

Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?

I think it's staged by device ID rather than location, so there may be some UK phones that have it and some that don't.

You can download it from here if you're desperate not to wait - be warned, the risks are very small but not non-existant.

flagpole · 25-07-2013, 17:29

They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely.

Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.

Stiggles · 25-07-2013, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by pi r squared

I think it's staged by device ID rather than location, so there may be some UK phones that have it and some that don't.

You can download it from here if you're desperate not to wait - be warned, the risks are very small but not non-existant.

Thats a scutter that guide!!

All you need to do is put the phone into the bootloader, download the file, extract it and hit flash-all.bat.

That's how i did it yesterday.

LostFool · 25-07-2013, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely.

Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.

At least Google pushes their updates out within a few days of release. Any ISP locked device will have to wait weeks, months or may never get the update.

From a distribution perspective a staged rollout makes some sense. If any of the people getting the update in the first wave report any critical issues then the whole release can be stopped. Embarrassing for the company but not as bad as everyone getting a bad release at the same time.

finbaar · 26-07-2013, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely.

Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.

Awful at pushing out updates? You are not serious. Google want to avoid all the problems Apple have when they push upadtes and crash their servers. And Google put the factory images out there straight away for anyone to download and flash.

pi r squared · 26-07-2013, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

All you need to do is put the phone into the bootloader, download the file, extract it and hit flash-all.bat.

Does that method keep all of your data?

flagpole · 26-07-2013, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

Awful at pushing out updates? You are not serious. Google want to avoid all the problems Apple have when they push upadtes and crash their servers. And Google put the factory images out there straight away for anyone to download and flash.

You are not serious?

You know that Google own Youtube right?

Every nexus device downloading a firmware update at the exact same moment wouldn't even register as a blip on google's servers.

grumpyoldbat · 26-07-2013, 16:34

To be fair, I've not seen Apple's servers keel over under the weight of a point update. They only seem to struggle slightly with the release of a brand new full blown OS release.

I don't think Google would struggle if they just rolled this out. I had to wait a week for the last update on my Nexus 4. I understand they might want to stagger it a little over a couple of days, but a week seems a long time for a phone which hasn't sold anything like the numbers that Samsung or Apple put out!

IslandNiles · 26-07-2013, 17:01

The Apple servers do tend to slow right down when a new version of iOS is released, and people start to get download error messages. So maybe there's something to be said for a staggered rollout.

That said, the Apple servers are under pressure because ALL iOS devices are updated using that method. The number of Nexus devices around must be very, very low by comparison, so you'd think it would be something they could handle in one go.

Stiggles · 26-07-2013, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by pi r squared

Does that method keep all of your data?

No.

I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort.

Its also best to start from scratch with an update like this.

flagpole · 26-07-2013, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by IslandNiles

The Apple servers do tend to slow right down when a new version of iOS is released, and people start to get download error messages. So maybe there's something to be said for a staggered rollout.

That said, the Apple servers are under pressure because ALL iOS devices are updated using that method. The number of Nexus devices around must be very, very low by comparison, so you'd think it would be something they could handle in one go.

Yeah the number of iOS devices must be what 100 times? 1000 times? the number of nexus devices.

And Google has many many times the bandwidth available to apple. For free.

flagpole · 26-07-2013, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

No.

I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort.

Its also best to start from scratch with an update like this.

It's best to start from scratch for a minor incremental update?

A source for that?

Stiggles · 26-07-2013, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

It's best to start from scratch for a minor incremental update?

A source for that?

My source is me and from my days making custom roms.

Its not exactly a minor incremental update anyway. Its adds lots of new things from a whole new kernel and radio to updated bluetooth.

I did do an update to 4.3 but it didn't go well. Random reboots and lock ups.

So personally i think its best to full wipe.

flagpole · 26-07-2013, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

My source is me and from my days making custom roms.

Its not exactly a minor incremental update anyway. Its adds lots of new things from a whole new kernel and radio to updated bluetooth.

I did do an update to 4.3 but it didn't go well. Random reboots and lock ups.

So personally i think its best to full wipe.

I disagree.

Stiggles · 26-07-2013, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

I disagree.

You disagree with what bit?

pi r squared · 26-07-2013, 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

No.

I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort.

That's fair enough; however, I would suggest that most people do want to keep their data intact, which is what the method in that guide does, probably explaining why it's such a "scutter" as you put it.

Yes, all my really important stuff - contacts, emails, SMS history, photos - is backed up in the cloud, but minor stuff - a couple of IAPs, my Temple Run 2 stats, my Tiny Thief / Broken Sword progress, etc - isn't backed up so I'd be a little miffed at losing all of that.

Stiggles · 26-07-2013, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by pi r squared

That's fair enough; however, I would suggest that most people do want to keep their data intact, which is what the method in that guide does, probably explaining why it's such a "scutter" as you put it.

Yes, all my really important stuff - contacts, emails, SMS history, photos - is backed up in the cloud, but minor stuff - a couple of IAPs, my Temple Run 2 stats, my Tiny Thief / Broken Sword progress, etc - isn't backed up so I'd be a little miffed at losing all of that.

Good point!

The Sack · 26-07-2013, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by late8

Anyone having any luck?

It was supposed to be available yesterday however there has been no update?

Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?

I got the OTA update for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 tonight.

SadmeHappy · 26-07-2013, 23:40

I also got 4.3 OTA on my 303K around 21:30.

ney · 27-07-2013, 08:35

I got the OTA update to my Nexus 7 this morning but not to my Nexus 4. Why is that.

Darren

flagpole · 27-07-2013, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ney

I got the OTA update to my Nexus 7 this morning but not to my Nexus 4. Why is that.

Darren

because the process is gradual.

biger · 27-07-2013, 08:44

4.3 ready to update on my n4 this morning

25-07-2013, 16:49	#1
late8 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,052	4.3 on NEXUS 4 Anyone having any luck? It was supposed to be available yesterday however there has been no update? Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download?

25-07-2013, 17:05	#2
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	This is always the case, it will be rolled out over the next week.

25-07-2013, 17:24	#3
ney Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Scotland, Dunfermline Area Posts: 10,704	I'm looking forward to getting it on my Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 and seeing what minor changes 4.3 has. Darren

25-07-2013, 17:25	#4
pi r squared Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,185	Quote: Originally Posted by late8 Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download? I think it's staged by device ID rather than location, so there may be some UK phones that have it and some that don't. You can download it from here if you're desperate not to wait - be warned, the risks are very small but not non-existant.

25-07-2013, 17:29	#5
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely. Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth.

25-07-2013, 18:18	#6
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by pi r squared I think it's staged by device ID rather than location, so there may be some UK phones that have it and some that don't. You can download it from here if you're desperate not to wait - be warned, the risks are very small but not non-existant. Thats a scutter that guide!! All you need to do is put the phone into the bootloader, download the file, extract it and hit flash-all.bat. That's how i did it yesterday.

25-07-2013, 18:22	#7
LostFool Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 59,737	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely. Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth. At least Google pushes their updates out within a few days of release. Any ISP locked device will have to wait weeks, months or may never get the update. From a distribution perspective a staged rollout makes some sense. If any of the people getting the update in the first wave report any critical issues then the whole release can be stopped. Embarrassing for the company but not as bad as everyone getting a bad release at the same time.

26-07-2013, 12:51	#8
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole They're awful at pushing out updates. They're never timely. Something that apple manages fairly well. And Google are not exactly short on bandwidth. Awful at pushing out updates? You are not serious. Google want to avoid all the problems Apple have when they push upadtes and crash their servers. And Google put the factory images out there straight away for anyone to download and flash.

26-07-2013, 14:05	#9
pi r squared Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,185	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles All you need to do is put the phone into the bootloader, download the file, extract it and hit flash-all.bat. Does that method keep all of your data?

26-07-2013, 15:27	#10
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar Awful at pushing out updates? You are not serious. Google want to avoid all the problems Apple have when they push upadtes and crash their servers. And Google put the factory images out there straight away for anyone to download and flash. You are not serious? You know that Google own Youtube right? Every nexus device downloading a firmware update at the exact same moment wouldn't even register as a blip on google's servers.

26-07-2013, 16:34	#11
grumpyoldbat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,636	To be fair, I've not seen Apple's servers keel over under the weight of a point update. They only seem to struggle slightly with the release of a brand new full blown OS release. I don't think Google would struggle if they just rolled this out. I had to wait a week for the last update on my Nexus 4. I understand they might want to stagger it a little over a couple of days, but a week seems a long time for a phone which hasn't sold anything like the numbers that Samsung or Apple put out!

26-07-2013, 17:01	#12
IslandNiles Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 13,091	The Apple servers do tend to slow right down when a new version of iOS is released, and people start to get download error messages. So maybe there's something to be said for a staggered rollout. That said, the Apple servers are under pressure because ALL iOS devices are updated using that method. The number of Nexus devices around must be very, very low by comparison, so you'd think it would be something they could handle in one go.

26-07-2013, 17:28	#13
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by pi r squared Does that method keep all of your data? No. I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort. Its also best to start from scratch with an update like this.

26-07-2013, 17:32	#14
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by IslandNiles The Apple servers do tend to slow right down when a new version of iOS is released, and people start to get download error messages. So maybe there's something to be said for a staggered rollout. That said, the Apple servers are under pressure because ALL iOS devices are updated using that method. The number of Nexus devices around must be very, very low by comparison, so you'd think it would be something they could handle in one go. Yeah the number of iOS devices must be what 100 times? 1000 times? the number of nexus devices. And Google has many many times the bandwidth available to apple. For free.

26-07-2013, 17:33	#15
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles No. I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort. Its also best to start from scratch with an update like this. It's best to start from scratch for a minor incremental update? A source for that?

26-07-2013, 17:42	#16
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole It's best to start from scratch for a minor incremental update? A source for that? My source is me and from my days making custom roms. Its not exactly a minor incremental update anyway. Its adds lots of new things from a whole new kernel and radio to updated bluetooth. I did do an update to 4.3 but it didn't go well. Random reboots and lock ups. So personally i think its best to full wipe.

26-07-2013, 17:45	#17
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles My source is me and from my days making custom roms. Its not exactly a minor incremental update anyway. Its adds lots of new things from a whole new kernel and radio to updated bluetooth. I did do an update to 4.3 but it didn't go well. Random reboots and lock ups. So personally i think its best to full wipe. I disagree.

26-07-2013, 17:51	#18
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole I disagree. You disagree with what bit?

26-07-2013, 18:09	#19
pi r squared Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,185	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles No. I wasn't fussed however since most of my stuff is on a cloud of some sort. That's fair enough; however, I would suggest that most people do want to keep their data intact, which is what the method in that guide does, probably explaining why it's such a "scutter" as you put it. Yes, all my really important stuff - contacts, emails, SMS history, photos - is backed up in the cloud, but minor stuff - a couple of IAPs, my Temple Run 2 stats, my Tiny Thief / Broken Sword progress, etc - isn't backed up so I'd be a little miffed at losing all of that.

26-07-2013, 18:16	#20
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by pi r squared That's fair enough; however, I would suggest that most people do want to keep their data intact, which is what the method in that guide does, probably explaining why it's such a "scutter" as you put it. Yes, all my really important stuff - contacts, emails, SMS history, photos - is backed up in the cloud, but minor stuff - a couple of IAPs, my Temple Run 2 stats, my Tiny Thief / Broken Sword progress, etc - isn't backed up so I'd be a little miffed at losing all of that. Good point!

26-07-2013, 23:23	#21
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by late8 Anyone having any luck? It was supposed to be available yesterday however there has been no update? Anyone else know if this is on UK servers yet or where to download? I got the OTA update for my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 tonight.

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26-07-2013, 23:40	#22
SadmeHappy Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 373	I also got 4.3 OTA on my 303K around 21:30.

27-07-2013, 08:35	#23
ney Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Scotland, Dunfermline Area Posts: 10,704	I got the OTA update to my Nexus 7 this morning but not to my Nexus 4. Why is that. Darren

27-07-2013, 08:44	#24
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by ney I got the OTA update to my Nexus 7 this morning but not to my Nexus 4. Why is that. Darren because the process is gradual.

27-07-2013, 08:44	#25
biger Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 25	4.3 ready to update on my n4 this morning