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Is Debbie Dingle beyond redemption


View Poll Results: Is Debbie Dingle beyond redemption?
No, there is no going back for Debbie now, she can never be forgiven! 111 54.41%
Yes, Gennie's death wasn't her fault! 22 10.78%
Unsure - We'll have to see how the story pans out. 50 24.51%
Possibly, if she kills Cameron! 21 10.29%
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Old 25-07-2013, 23:20
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After tonights episode and the fact that she is going to carry on covering and philandering for/with killer Cameron, is there any way that the character can be redeemed?

I personally can't see a future for Debbie in the dales after this.
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Old 25-07-2013, 23:36
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Princess Dobbeh Lannister Corleone became unredeemable a long time ago.

I really believe that the Dingles will try and protect her and blame it all on Cameron. They will give her a hard time for one or two episodes then it will be ancient history and they will treat her as HRH Dobbeh.

When the truth eventually comes out who will care about Gennie's death? Nikhil will have left the village. Only Brenda will care but she will be isolated against the Dingles who will probably gang up on her. Bob will be no support as he's a spineless fool. Katie will be upset but as there are no d*cks to chase she won't be too involved in this storyline.

Chas might be revengeful but she will be Dinglecoded and guilty tripped into keeping quiet about Debbie.

I am very confident that even if her role in Gennie's death and what she did to Chas is exposed. She will soon be strutting into the village as if she owns it, barking her orders to villagers more than happy to oblige and be treated like shit by the obnoxious murderous witch.
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Old 25-07-2013, 23:48
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I think this time, there has to be some comeuppance for Debbie.
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Old 25-07-2013, 23:48
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What Lola said.


I voted no. Even if she sees sense and kills Cameron it still won't make up for her actions tonight.

Not only is she standing by a self-confessed murderer (who let her aunt/cousin rot in prison and possibly go down for something she didn't do - but, hey, he'd have confessed had it been her, Princess Debbie *puking smilie*) but it looks like she's going to keep quiet about the true circumstances of Gennie's death which she was entirely culpable in. It was HER idea to chase after Gennie. She even screamed at the end "WE killed her". All because the lady lurves Cameron
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:02
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What Lola said.


I voted no. Even if she sees sense and kills Cameron it still won't make up for her actions tonight.

Not only is she standing by a self-confessed murderer (who let her aunt/cousin rot in prison and possibly go down for something she didn't do - but, hey, he'd have confessed had it been her, Princess Debbie *puking smilie*) but it looks like she's going to keep quiet about the true circumstances of Gennie's death which she was entirely culpable in. It was HER idea to chase after Gennie. She even screamed at the end "WE killed her". All because the lady lurves Cameron
The twist with Cameron finishing Gennie off, is just a way to reduce Debbie's responsibility in Gennie's death but I am not buying it. If Cameron hadn't asphyxiated her, the injuries would have killed her.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:05
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Maybe Gennie shouldn't have snooping round Debbies house and listening to her private conversations! The crash wasn't intended by Debs.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:05
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Princess Dobbeh Lannister Corleone became unredeemable a long time ago.

I really believe that the Dingles will try and protect her and blame it all on Cameron. They will give her a hard time for one or two episodes then it will be ancient history and they will treat her as HRH Dobbeh.

When the truth eventually comes out who will care about Gennie's death? Nikhil will have left the village. Only Brenda will care but she will be isolated against the Dingles who will probably gang up on her. Bob will be no support as he's a spineless fool. Katie will be upset but as there are no d*cks to chase she won't be too involved in this storyline.

Chas might be revengeful but she will be Dinglecoded and guilty tripped into keeping quiet about Debbie.

I am very confident that even if her role in Gennie's death and what she did to Chas is exposed. She will soon be strutting into the village as if she owns it, barking her orders to villagers more than happy to oblige and be treated like shit by the obnoxious murderous witch.
Spot on!
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:14
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The twist with Cameron finishing Gennie off, is just a way to reduce Debbie's responsibility in Gennie's death but I am not buying it. If Cameron hadn't asphyxiated her, the injuries would have killed her.
I agree. Gennie looked in a very bad way, I'm almost certain she was paralysed in some way as the only things moving were her eyes and mouth so if she'd lived she might have been another Jackson. However like you I'm practically convinced she'd have died from her injuries anyway. NOT that that excuses Cameron's repulsive actions of course.

Maybe Gennie shouldn't have snooping round Debbies house and listening to her private conversations! The crash wasn't intended by Debs.
How did she think that that would end well? Chasing a new driver at high speed around country lanes? It as HER idea to get in the car and after that she obeyed every demand of Cameron's such as "go faster" "overtake her" etc. Just because she didn't intend the crash to happen doesn't mean she wasn't culpable. What did she think self-confessed murderer Cameron was going to do if he caught up with her? Ask her nicely not to say anything? The writing was on the wall once she stuck like glue to Cameron instead of family once she realised that Gennie hadn't just over seen them kissing but had actually heard every word uttered in that house.

She definitely shouldn't have been snooping in that house but she paid rather a high price for her nosiness!
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:17
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Debbie never intended for Gennie to be hurt, it's not her fault Cameron killed Gennie in cold blood. He was always going to kill her, he'd been threatening her months ago.

Debbie was heartbroken at the end, she doesn't need redeeming.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:18
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I hope when the final reveal happens it all kicks off big time with Cain & Chas wading in. The build up has been so good for this, the payoff HAS to be worth it.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:22
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Originally Posted by ferdybookgeek;67389240[B
]Debbie never intended for Gennie to be hurt[/b], it's not her fault Cameron killed Gennie in cold blood. He was always going to kill her, he'd been threatening her months ago.

Debbie was heartbroken at the end, she doesn't need redeeming.
What did she and her murderer of a boyfriend intend to do when they decided to chase Gennie? Debbie knew it was going to end badly for Gennie. She caused the accident by reckless and dangerous driving.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:29
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Debbie never intended for Gennie to be hurt, it's not her fault Cameron killed Gennie in cold blood. He was always going to kill her, he'd been threatening her months ago.

Debbie was heartbroken at the end, she doesn't need redeeming.
Quit defending the indefensible! Debbie is only afraid that she'll end up in prison. Jail time is the least she deserves.

Any tears she has shed for Gennie are of the crocodile variety. She'll revert to her usual stone faced manner in no time.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:41
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Debbie has all the hallmarks of being a unashamed psychopath . I think it'll prove to be a hard habit to break somehow
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:41
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What did she and her murderer of a boyfriend intend to do when they decided to chase Gennie? Debbie knew it was going to end badly for Gennie. She caused the accident by reckless and dangerous driving.
Well, she didn't want to kill her obviously otherwise she would have been relieved and happy that Gennie crashed and died.
Debbie wanted to convince Gennie not to blab, she didnt want Gennie dead.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:44
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Quit defending the indefensible! Debbie is only afraid that she'll end up in prison. Jail time is the least she deserves.

Any tears she has shed for Gennie are of the crocodile variety. She'll revert to her usual stone faced manner in no time.
I hardly think prison was all Debbie was worried about.
It was clear that she was genuinely upset and horrified that Gennie was dead. She was hardly faking it or worrying about prison - I don't think prison even crossed her mind.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:46
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Well, she didn't want to kill her obviously otherwise she would have been relieved and happy that Gennie crashed and died.
Debbie wanted to convince Gennie not to blab, she didnt want Gennie dead.
It doesn't matter what her intentions were. People who drink and drive then cause an accident don't mean to hurt anyone either, doesn't make them any less guilty. It's Debbie's reckless and dangerous behaviour that caused the accident.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:48
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I hardly think prison was all Debbie was worried about.
It was clear that she was genuinely upset and horrified that Gennie was dead. She was hardly faking it or worrying about prison - I don't think prison even crossed her mind.
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Old 26-07-2013, 00:49
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Debbie deserves all the shit coming, Zak needs to do a Cain on her.
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:01
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To protect Cameron's secret, if she admitted she was chasing Gennie then they'd be asking why and the truth might come out.
Cameron will obviously pressure and manipulate Debbie into keeping quiet. I'm sure she'll break down closer to October and admit what happened.
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:11
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To protect Cameron's secret, if she admitted she was chasing Gennie then they'd be asking why and the truth might come out.
Cameron will obviously pressure and manipulate Debbie into keeping quiet. I'm sure she'll break down closer to October and admit what happened.
But that's the point. How can she even THINK of keeping his secret now? A family member is dead again because of him (even if she doesn't know he smothered Gennie she knows the only reason they were chasing her was because of Cameron's confession). A child has been left motherless, a husband without his soul mate, a mother has lost her child and Chas her sister because of this man but she STILL stands by him and keeps his secret?

Debbie has always been strong and IIRC was quite moralistic (until this year!). I just don't buy that she's so in love with this man that she'd do that and am appalled that it (looks like) it's going to take 3 months for her to do the decent thing - if she ever does!
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:13
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To protect Cameron's secret, if she admitted she was chasing Gennie then they'd be asking why and the truth might come out.
Cameron will obviously pressure and manipulate Debbie into keeping quiet. I'm sure she'll break down closer to October and admit what happened.
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:19
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But that's the point. How can she even THINK of keeping his secret now? A family member is dead again because of him (even if she doesn't know he smothered Gennie she knows the only reason they were chasing her was because of Cameron's confession). A child has been left motherless, a husband without his soul mate, a mother has lost her child and Chas her sister because of this man but she STILL stands by him and keeps his secret?

Debbie has always been strong and IIRC was quite moralistic (until this year!). I just don't buy that she's so in love with this man that she'd do that and am appalled that it (looks like) it's going to take 3 months for her to do the decent thing - if she ever does!
I think she should tell the police the truth, but they've turned Debbie into a weak idiot. I don't get why she would protect Cameron after all he's done.

I've always felt like Cameron has a weird power over both Debbie and Chas - they both have turned into stupid idiots.
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:24
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:30
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But that's the point. How can she even THINK of keeping his secret now? A family member is dead again because of him (even if she doesn't know he smothered Gennie she knows the only reason they were chasing her was because of Cameron's confession). A child has been left motherless, a husband without his soul mate, a mother has lost her child and Chas her sister because of this man but she STILL stands by him and keeps his secret?

Debbie has always been strong and IIRC was quite moralistic (until this year!). I just don't buy that she's so in love with this man that she'd do that and am appalled that it (looks like) it's going to take 3 months for her to do the decent thing - if she ever does!
What makes it even more unbelievable is the fact that Debbie and Cameron's love has never been remotely convincing and believable. Where was that big love when they were together? They were miserable together mostly because Debbie is a miserable cow and she treated him like dirt. They aren't some epic star crossed lovers. They're not Romeo and Juliet. They're not even Bonnie and Clyde. How are we to believe that their love is so strong that Cameron keeps killing for her and that she loves him and protects him despite his murderous ways?
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:45
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Princess Dobbeh Lannister Corleone
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Whats left for the character? Its been Debbie overkill for what feels like an eternity, there is only so much one can go through before you think enough is enough.
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