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Is Debbie Dingle beyond redemption


View Poll Results: Is Debbie Dingle beyond redemption?
No, there is no going back for Debbie now, she can never be forgiven! 111 54.41%
Yes, Gennie's death wasn't her fault! 22 10.78%
Unsure - We'll have to see how the story pans out. 50 24.51%
Possibly, if she kills Cameron! 21 10.29%
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:10
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In my opinion, it will end up being Debbie who does the deed - if he is killed off that is. I'm still not convinced that he is going to be.
I agree , it isnt Cain's storyline ...it should be one of the girls and i assume it will be Debbie protecting Chas and they will use this to redeem Debbie .

For so long debbie has put Cameron above everyone ....so if she kills Cameron to protect her aunt there is hope for her .
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:11
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I'd rather cain didn't do it. He's not a cold blooded killer. If anyone should do it, it should be Chas, who has a real reason to hate him.
Ok I can settle for Chas.

I just don't want Debbie doing it
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:14
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He does speak to her next week about not allowing Cameron wind her up at the funeral .......also Lisa is still a bit off with Debbie so he is probably trying to keep the peace .

As for Cain , how can you turn on and off your instints ....Robbie stalked her and scared her yet he did nothing ....even after the fall out , Cain's nature would have him still keeping an eye out for her especially as he knew her behavouir was not normal for her...

I was also shocked he never did anything when Andy took the kids .......

He wants to protect her from Cameron .......but he is happy to not protect her from other things that hurt and upset her .....so is it debbie he is looking out for or does he just want to get at Cameron .
Is Robbie really a serious threat to anyone? right at that point, Cain was up to here with Debbie, and well aware that she had caused the situation with Robbie. For once he did actually leave her to sort out her own mess TBH I'm not even sure how much he knew of Robbie's behaviour,

For me it was a pleasant surprise when he never did anything about andy taking the kids. I fully expected him to threaten Andy, but everybody put the kids first, and Cain backed Andy up with Moira. Debbie wasn't fit to be looking after young kids at that point, and whilst it was an over reaction for Andy to want full custody, IMO the kids were better off away from Debbie and staying with their Dad for a while.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:14
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Ok I can settle for Chas.

I just don't want Debbie doing it
Debbie might push him or something and they make it look like suicide ....might not mean prision ....
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:15
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If Cain suspected Cameron murdered Alex there is no way in hell he would let Debbie and the kids live with him .....he would lock debbie up before he woud let Cameron near her ....
I don't think he suspects anything yet - but once he knows that someone

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The Adam S/L must be starting soon so this must tie in with whatever happens in October.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:17
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I agree , it isnt Cain's storyline ...it should be one of the girls and i assume it will be Debbie protecting Chas and they will use this to redeem Debbie .

For so long debbie has put Cameron above everyone ....so if she kills Cameron to protect her aunt there is hope for her .
Yes I agree, this is all to do with the redemption of Debbie. Thats why I think she will be the one to do it.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:20
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How about a twist for Cameron's exit. He gets found out, the news is spreading through the village, the police have been called, Cameron knows his only choice is to flee. He gets in a car (his car, stolen car, doesn't matter which), speeds off and looses control, crashing his car in the very spot Gennie died, and he dies on impact.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:21
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He does speak to her next week about not allowing Cameron wind her up at the funeral .......also Lisa is still a bit off with Debbie so he is probably trying to keep the peace .

As for Cain , how can you turn on and off your instints ....Robbie stalked her and scared her yet he did nothing ....even after the fall out , Cain's nature would have him still keeping an eye out for her especially as he knew her behavouir was not normal for her...

I was also shocked he never did anything when Andy took the kids .......

He wants to protect her from Cameron .......but he is happy to not protect her from other things that hurt and upset her .....so is it debbie he is looking out for or does he just want to get at Cameron .
BIB: He did do something only he was led to believe it was that other guy (sorry can't remember his name) it was only when Cain had him put in hospital that they found out it was Robbie.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:21
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Is Robbie really a serious threat to anyone? right at that point, Cain was up to here with Debbie, and well aware that she had caused the situation with Robbie. For once he did actually leave her to sort out her own mess TBH I'm not even sure how much he knew of Robbie's behaviour,

For me it was a pleasant surprise when he never did anything about andy taking the kids. I fully expected him to threaten Andy, but everybody put the kids first, and Cain backed Andy up with Moira. Debbie wasn't fit to be looking after young kids at that point, and whilst it was an over reaction for Andy to want full custody, IMO the kids were better off away from Debbie and staying with their Dad for a while.
He was staking his daughter and scaring his grandkids , smashing windows etc ...

Moira was against Andy taking the kids , Cain knew Debbie would be devestated .....i didnt think it was very nice of him ....

Yes I agree, this is all to do with the redemption of Debbie. Thats why I think she will be the one to do it.
Yes it will have to be her , if it is Chas then Debbie has done nothing to redeem herself .
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:21
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Is Robbie really a serious threat to anyone?
An ant maybe

For me it was a pleasant surprise when he never did anything about andy taking the kids. I fully expected him to threaten Andy, but everybody put the kids first, and Cain backed Andy up with Moira. Debbie wasn't fit to be looking after young kids at that point, and whilst it was an over reaction for Andy to want full custody, IMO the kids were better off away from Debbie and staying with their Dad for a while.
I agree with this. The only problem I saw of it was the lack of communication. Andy just throwing Debbie out, locking her out and then threatening full custody (don't make me laugh Andy) was down right stupid. They knew how Debbie would react, they knew she would fly off the handle and she did.. Upsetting poor little Sarah in the process.
Andy being the calmer more responsible parent, at the time, should of handled it a bit better. But I agree the kids should have stayed with him.

Debbie might push him or something and they make it look like suicide ....might not mean prision ....
I don't care about prison, I just don't want to give her haters another reason to hate her lol. I just don't want her to be a murderer.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:25
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How about a twist for Cameron's exit. He gets found out, the news is spreading through the village, the police have been called, Cameron knows his only choice is to flee. He gets in a car (his car, stolen car, doesn't matter which), speeds off and looses control, crashing his car in the very spot Gennie died, and he dies on impact.
Oh what about he doesn't die on impact but is thrown from the car and Gennie's ghost then appears and suffocates him
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:40
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Right, here's what should happen. Scriptwriters take notes

Debbie should not get to kill Cameron. If she does kill him, it will only reinforce her attitude that 'everything gets left to her to sort' and she will go around being obnoxious and cruel to the very people who over the past year or so have between them risked their lives and their freedom to sort out her messes - ie she will keep treating her family like her servants. she needs to learn a bit of humility, so Chas should be the one to save her.

Chas has been portrayed as a victim of Cameron's scheming for too long. Cameron has now: led her to believe she was a murderer; left her to face a life sentence; broken her beloved niece's heart;
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; and lastly most importantly has murdered her sister. Now what she should of course do in a civilised society is turn him over to the police. Here's what I hope she does

tortures him, tortures him some more and then slowly kills him, all the time telling him that she's 'doing it for Sarah.'

The Dingles should then collectively bury him at a crossroads with a stake in his heart.

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Old 06-08-2013, 14:41
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Love Debs whatever she does. Soap's leading lady.
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:44
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Right, here's what should happen. Scriptwriters take notes

Debbie should not get to kill Cameron. If she does kill him, it will only reinforce her attitude that 'everything gets left to her to sort' and she will go around being obnoxious and cruel to the very people who over the past year or so have between them risked their lives and their freedom to sort out her messes - ie she will keep treating her family like her servants. she needs to learn a bit of humility, so Chas should be the one to save her.

Chas has been portrayed as a victim of Cameron's scheming for too long. Cameron has now: led her to believe she was a murderer; left her to face a life sentence; broken her beloved niece's heart;
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; and lastly most importantly has murdered her sister. Now what she should of course do in a civilised society is turn him over to the police. Here's what I hope she does

tortures him, tortures him some more and then slowly kills him, all the time telling him that she's 'doing it for Sarah.'

The Dingles should then collectively bury him at a crossroads with a stake in his heart.

I love it

BIB - For Sarahsake
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:56
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Right, here's what should happen. Scriptwriters take notes

Debbie should not get to kill Cameron. If she does kill him, it will only reinforce her attitude that 'everything gets left to her to sort' and she will go around being obnoxious and cruel to the very people who over the past year or so have between them risked their lives and their freedom to sort out her messes - ie she will keep treating her family like her servants. she needs to learn a bit of humility, so Chas should be the one to save her.

Chas has been portrayed as a victim of Cameron's scheming for too long. Cameron has now: led her to believe she was a murderer; left her to face a life sentence; broken her beloved niece's heart;
Spoiler
; and lastly most importantly has murdered her sister. Now what she should of course do in a civilised society is turn him over to the police. Here's what I hope she does

tortures him, tortures him some more and then slowly kills him, all the time telling him that she's 'doing it for Sarah.'

The Dingles should then collectively bury him at a crossroads with a stake in his heart.

Very good Glenda, and very clever of you to remember that everything Debbie does is FOR THOSE CHILDREN
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:58
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Oh what about he doesn't die on impact but is thrown from the car and Gennie's ghost then appears and suffocates him
Or, the ghosts of Carl and Alex return to batter him over the head repeatedly?
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Old 06-08-2013, 14:59
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Very good Glenda, and very clever of you to remember that everything Debbie does is FOR THOSE CHILDREN
It's what Jackson would have wanted

Or, the ghosts of Carl and Alex return to batter him over the head repeatedly?
Yes this could work too
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Old 06-08-2013, 15:02
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Very good Glenda, and very clever of you to remember that everything Debbie does is FOR THOSE CHILDREN
I've now got visions of an enraged Chas hacking away at Cameron whilst screaming
'this one's for Alex and this is for Carl, this is for Debbie, this is for me, this is Gennie, and this one (she raises the axe/knife above her head to bring down with a fatal blow) is for
'THOSE CHILDREN!!' brouhahahaha'
I'd watch that.
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Old 06-08-2013, 15:03
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Very good Glenda, and very clever of you to remember that everything Debbie does is FOR THOSE CHILDREN
But she does Why heck she let Cameron back into the house because little Sarah was in bits over Gennie's death. Such a giving considerate young mother our Dobbeh is
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Old 06-08-2013, 15:11
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But she does Why heck she let Cameron back into the house because little Sarah was in bits over Gennie's death. Such a giving considerate young mother our Dobbeh is
She's the very soul of devotion. she's so caring that she thought her child would be desperately upset about the death of someone she's barely ever spoken to.

although i have to be fair, being a rotten Mum is an aberration (hopefully temporary) for her. She's been a good Mum on the whole since she got custody of Sarah. In fact, it's only since Jack came along that she went off the rails - there you go, it's been his fault all along
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Old 06-08-2013, 15:35
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Chas will find the Dictaphone and she'll confront Cameron. Cameron will try and kill her to prevent her from exposing him and Debbie will save Chas.
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Old 06-08-2013, 16:18
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So that's the new and improved Cain Dingle? The man who's becoming a better person thanks to the love of Moira.

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After being beaten up by his father, left for dead and almost burned alive, Cain whined that he was not perfect but he didn't deserve what Zak and Adam did to him. Unlike the Sharmas, Amy, and John Barton who obviously deserved to be at the receiving hand of his violence, insults and bullying. Now Saint Cain - who's never hurt Dobbeh or wrecked a family- decides to hit Cameron on the head, then to kill him for the horrible crime of leaving Chas and getting back with Dobbeh. It's clear he hasn't learnt anything from what happened to him. New Cain is a joke. But is it really surprising? We haven't seen sincere remorse, no apology, no self-awareness, no introspection, no atonement. He's still the same thug he always was, just a lot more hypocritical about it. The changes in Cain are totally superficial, self-serving and self-centered. It's all about getting full access to Moira's bedroom while being a thug behind her back. Not that Moira would really care as her moral has pretty much disappeared.

Cain's is only a father to Dobbeh when it gives him the opportunity to threaten, be mean or be a thug. That's about it.

I find the way violence is portrayed in this storyline is quite baffling because it is portrayed in such a flippant and casual way. On one hand we have Laurel who's traumatised after being car-jacked. Then we have the Dingles, who try to kill each other all the time but it's no big deal because it's a family member or someone they knew who did it. WTF
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Old 06-08-2013, 16:18
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I've now got visions of an enraged Chas hacking away at Cameron whilst screaming
'this one's for Alex and this is for Carl, this is for Debbie, this is for me, this is Gennie, and this one (she raises the axe/knife above her head to bring down with a fatal blow) is for
'THOSE CHILDREN!!' brouhahahaha'
I'd watch that.
Sounds brilliant to me. Send that over to the writers Glenda
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Old 06-08-2013, 16:21
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Chas will find the Dictaphone and she'll confront Cameron. Cameron will try and kill her to prevent her from exposing him and Debbie will save Chas.
Knowing ED, she will ask Cameron to meet her in the middle of the night and in the middle of nowhere so she can confront him without being disturbed.
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Old 06-08-2013, 16:24
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om exposing him and Debbie will save Chas.[/quote]

So that's the new and improved Cain Dingle? The man who's becoming a better person thanks to the love of Moira.

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After being beaten up by his father, left for dead and almost burned alive, Cain whined that he was not perfect but he didn't deserve what Zak and Adam did to him. Unlike the Sharmas, Amy, and John Barton who obviously deserved to be at the receiving hand of his violence, insults and bullying. Now Saint Cain - who's never hurt Dobbeh or wrecked a family- decides to hit Cameron on the head, then to kill him for the horrible crime of leaving Chas and getting back with Dobbeh. It's clear he hasn't learnt anything from what happened to him. New Cain is a joke. But is it really surprising? We haven't seen sincere remorse, no apology, no self-awareness, no introspection, no atonement. He's still the same thug he always was, just a lot more hypocritical about it. The changes in Cain are totally superficial, self-serving and self-centered. It's all about getting full access to Moira's bedroom while being a thug behind her back. Not that Moira would really care as her moral has pretty much disappeared.

Cain's is only a father to Dobbeh when it gives him the opportunity to threaten, be mean or be a thug. That's about it.

I find the way violence is portrayed in this storyline is quite baffling because it is portrayed in such a flippant and casual way. On one hand we have Laurel who's traumatised after being car-jacked. Then we have the Dingles, who try to kill each other all the time but it's no big deal because it's a family member or someone they knew who did it. WTF
I agree ....Cain does not like Cameron ....but debie wants his back so that would make his daughter and grandaughter happy ....but then he does what he is going do next friday .......If he went through with it Debbie wouldbe devestated and disown Cain ....so it makes absolutely no sense what so ever !!!
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