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4.3 Update Nexus 7
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scorpionatthepc
27-07-2013
Just installed the update. Suppose to improve stability and allows you put locks on certain profiles to prevent children viewing adult apps. Also a new app is installed called keek.


Anyway share your thoughts and problems (bet there's a few) here.
pi r squared
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by scorpionatthepc:
“Also a new app is installed called keek.”

Are you sure that came with the 4.3 update?
Roush
27-07-2013
Think it's supposed to be Keep. It's a notes app added in 4.3
JeffG1
27-07-2013
It's not available OTA yet. I prefer to wait for the "official" release.
Roush
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“It's not available OTA yet. I prefer to wait for the "official" release.”

It is officially released.

Google have posted the factory images here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

The OTA update rollout is underway but it is being staged, so not all devices will see it yet.
pi r squared
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by Roush:
“Think it's supposed to be Keep. It's a notes app added in 4.3”

Ah, that makes sense - I did a quick Google for Keek, which is actually an app but didn't have any obvious affiliation with Google.

Keep is actually a pretty decent all-syncing notes app, I've been using it since release - quite pleasing to see it as part of the OS now.
scorpionatthepc
27-07-2013
I got the ota update last night. Also the app is called keek social video,some kind of video upload app.
pi r squared
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by scorpionatthepc:
“Also the app is called keek social video,some kind of video upload app.”

So, again: are you sure the app came with the update?
flagpole
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by pi r squared:
“So, again: are you sure the app came with the update?”

if two people have independently said it then what else is it that you are proposing happened?
pi r squared
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“if two people have independently said it then what else is it that you are proposing happened?”

I only see one person having mentioned Keek - where is the other?

What I'm proposing is that it did not come as part of the update, since (a) no other review of 4.3 - even the detailed breakdowns at Android Police et al - mentioned this at all, and (b) Google have never, to the best of my knowledge, bundled random third-party apps out as part of OS updates.

Do you disagree?
flagpole
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by pi r squared:
“I only see one person having mentioned Keek - where is the other?

What I'm proposing is that it did not come as part of the update, since (a) no other review of 4.3 - even the detailed breakdowns at Android Police et al - mentioned this at all, and (b) Google have never, to the best of my knowledge, bundled random third-party apps out as part of OS updates.

Do you disagree?”

sorry i thought they were separate people.

i shall let you know as soon as i have it.
Roush
27-07-2013
I've just updated my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and I do not have 'Keek' on either device.

Agree with the above too. Bundling a third party app with a Nexus device (especially one which potentially competes with Google's own services) would not be keeping with the 'Best of Google' positioning of the Nexus range.
ney
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by Roush:
“It is officially released.

Google have posted the factory images here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

The OTA update rollout is underway but it is being staged, so not all devices will see it yet.”

That may explain why my Nexus 7 got the update this morning and my Nexus 4 is still to get the update.

Darren
Batch
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by ney:
“That may explain why my Nexus 7 got the update this morning and my Nexus 4 is still to get the update.

Darren”

MY nexus 4 has the update, maybe batches means in IMEI blocks or something else other than straight model number.

Actually that may be what you meant anyway.
scorpionatthepc
27-07-2013
Sorry my mistake I must of installed it myself a while back but I'm sure the update said some kind of video sharing app would be installed too so I assumed it was that.
alanwarwic
27-07-2013
Talking of profiles, has anyone ever used the Permissions Manager app?
GeordiePaul
27-07-2013
Is it just my imagination or does 4.3 feel a little quicker to use?
Kal_El
27-07-2013
Was very surprised to get this update first thing this morning on my Nexus 7. OTA, no problems.

Originally Posted by GeordiePaul:
“Is it just my imagination or does 4.3 feel a little quicker to use?”

If it is your imagination, it's mine too. Just feels slightly faster, nothing massive but definitely noticeable.
Mr. Cool
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by GeordiePaul:
“Is it just my imagination or does 4.3 feel a little quicker to use?”

It has better TRIM support. Which will probably improve the overall 'snappiness' of the device.
flagpole
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by Mr. Cool:
“It has better TRIM support. Which will probably improve the overall 'snappiness' of the device.”

where did you read that?
Mr. Cool
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“where did you read that?”


Anandtech's review and various reports online:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/n...13-mini-review

Quote:
“One of the big problems was that the slowness which occurred with the prior Nexus 7 took device aging to appear – it was great for the first few months, but after you started loading it things tailed off. The new Nexus 7 (2013) with Android 4.3 includes support for fstrim, essentially idle garbage collection, which TRIMs the eMMC when a few conditions are met – the device is idle, screen off, and battery above roughly 70-percent. I’m told that TRIM support has been part of the eMMC standard since around 4.2, it was just a matter of enabling it in software. The result is that the new Nexus 7 shouldn’t have these aging affects at all. Oh, better yet, fstrim support has also been added to the old Nexus 7 with as of the Android 4.3 update, so if you’re got one of those that feel slow, I/O performance should get better after fstrim runs in the background. I would consider that problem fixed as of now, and Google took the eMMC and storage I/O performance issues with the previous Nexus 7 to heart for this version.”

Also looking on Google's official developer pages:

https://android.googlesource.com/pla...vold/+/b87937c
flagpole
27-07-2013
Thanks
alanwarwic
27-07-2013
You can obviously get around fragmenting problems on old devices via a simple back up and restore. Seems incredible that Anand never told anyone back then.

I'm not sure if there is a safe defrag to do the same.
GeordiePaul
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“You can obviously get around fragmenting problems on old devices via a simple back up and restore. Seems incredible that Anand never told anyone back then.

I'm not sure if there is a safe defrag to do the same.”

Thats a pain in the arse. Reminiscent of the old Windows 9x days where you ended up formatting every 6 months. Shouldn't have to do that in this day and age.

It definitely does seem quicker and that's why I guess. I've got it on my N4 as well although that was already really quick.
flagpole
27-07-2013
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“You can obviously get around fragmenting problems on old devices via a simple back up and restore. Seems incredible that Anand never told anyone back then.

I'm not sure if there is a safe defrag to do the same.”

Trim is not related to fragmenting.
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