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Old 27-07-2013, 00:03
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Just installed the update. Suppose to improve stability and allows you put locks on certain profiles to prevent children viewing adult apps. Also a new app is installed called keek.


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Old 27-07-2013, 11:59
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Also a new app is installed called keek.
Are you sure that came with the 4.3 update?
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:01
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Think it's supposed to be Keep. It's a notes app added in 4.3
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:03
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It's not available OTA yet. I prefer to wait for the "official" release.
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:07
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It's not available OTA yet. I prefer to wait for the "official" release.
It is officially released.

Google have posted the factory images here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

The OTA update rollout is underway but it is being staged, so not all devices will see it yet.
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:10
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Think it's supposed to be Keep. It's a notes app added in 4.3
Ah, that makes sense - I did a quick Google for Keek, which is actually an app but didn't have any obvious affiliation with Google.

Keep is actually a pretty decent all-syncing notes app, I've been using it since release - quite pleasing to see it as part of the OS now.
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:22
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I got the ota update last night. Also the app is called keek social video,some kind of video upload app.
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:35
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Also the app is called keek social video,some kind of video upload app.
So, again: are you sure the app came with the update?
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:42
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So, again: are you sure the app came with the update?
if two people have independently said it then what else is it that you are proposing happened?
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:47
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if two people have independently said it then what else is it that you are proposing happened?
I only see one person having mentioned Keek - where is the other?

What I'm proposing is that it did not come as part of the update, since (a) no other review of 4.3 - even the detailed breakdowns at Android Police et al - mentioned this at all, and (b) Google have never, to the best of my knowledge, bundled random third-party apps out as part of OS updates.

Do you disagree?
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:52
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I only see one person having mentioned Keek - where is the other?

What I'm proposing is that it did not come as part of the update, since (a) no other review of 4.3 - even the detailed breakdowns at Android Police et al - mentioned this at all, and (b) Google have never, to the best of my knowledge, bundled random third-party apps out as part of OS updates.

Do you disagree?
sorry i thought they were separate people.

i shall let you know as soon as i have it.
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:57
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I've just updated my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and I do not have 'Keek' on either device.

Agree with the above too. Bundling a third party app with a Nexus device (especially one which potentially competes with Google's own services) would not be keeping with the 'Best of Google' positioning of the Nexus range.
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Old 27-07-2013, 12:59
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It is officially released.

Google have posted the factory images here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

The OTA update rollout is underway but it is being staged, so not all devices will see it yet.
That may explain why my Nexus 7 got the update this morning and my Nexus 4 is still to get the update.

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Old 27-07-2013, 13:03
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That may explain why my Nexus 7 got the update this morning and my Nexus 4 is still to get the update.

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MY nexus 4 has the update, maybe batches means in IMEI blocks or something else other than straight model number.

Actually that may be what you meant anyway.
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Old 27-07-2013, 13:29
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Sorry my mistake I must of installed it myself a while back but I'm sure the update said some kind of video sharing app would be installed too so I assumed it was that.
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Old 27-07-2013, 13:58
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Talking of profiles, has anyone ever used the Permissions Manager app?
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Old 27-07-2013, 14:03
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Is it just my imagination or does 4.3 feel a little quicker to use?
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Old 27-07-2013, 14:45
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Was very surprised to get this update first thing this morning on my Nexus 7. OTA, no problems.

Is it just my imagination or does 4.3 feel a little quicker to use?
If it is your imagination, it's mine too. Just feels slightly faster, nothing massive but definitely noticeable.
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Old 27-07-2013, 14:51
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Is it just my imagination or does 4.3 feel a little quicker to use?
It has better TRIM support. Which will probably improve the overall 'snappiness' of the device.
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Old 27-07-2013, 14:54
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It has better TRIM support. Which will probably improve the overall 'snappiness' of the device.
where did you read that?
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Old 27-07-2013, 15:06
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where did you read that?

Anandtech's review and various reports online:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/n...13-mini-review

One of the big problems was that the slowness which occurred with the prior Nexus 7 took device aging to appear – it was great for the first few months, but after you started loading it things tailed off. The new Nexus 7 (2013) with Android 4.3 includes support for fstrim, essentially idle garbage collection, which TRIMs the eMMC when a few conditions are met – the device is idle, screen off, and battery above roughly 70-percent. I’m told that TRIM support has been part of the eMMC standard since around 4.2, it was just a matter of enabling it in software. The result is that the new Nexus 7 shouldn’t have these aging affects at all. Oh, better yet, fstrim support has also been added to the old Nexus 7 with as of the Android 4.3 update, so if you’re got one of those that feel slow, I/O performance should get better after fstrim runs in the background. I would consider that problem fixed as of now, and Google took the eMMC and storage I/O performance issues with the previous Nexus 7 to heart for this version.
Also looking on Google's official developer pages:

https://android.googlesource.com/pla...vold/+/b87937c
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Old 27-07-2013, 15:14
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Thanks
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Old 27-07-2013, 15:33
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You can obviously get around fragmenting problems on old devices via a simple back up and restore. Seems incredible that Anand never told anyone back then.

I'm not sure if there is a safe defrag to do the same.
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Old 27-07-2013, 15:48
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You can obviously get around fragmenting problems on old devices via a simple back up and restore. Seems incredible that Anand never told anyone back then.

I'm not sure if there is a safe defrag to do the same.
Thats a pain in the arse. Reminiscent of the old Windows 9x days where you ended up formatting every 6 months. Shouldn't have to do that in this day and age.

It definitely does seem quicker and that's why I guess. I've got it on my N4 as well although that was already really quick.
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Old 27-07-2013, 16:20
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You can obviously get around fragmenting problems on old devices via a simple back up and restore. Seems incredible that Anand never told anyone back then.

I'm not sure if there is a safe defrag to do the same.
Trim is not related to fragmenting.
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