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Old 27-07-2013, 09:57
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To be aired to promote the new series

http://www.mtv.co.uk/news/the-x-fact...t-cardle-anger

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...e-mash-2091625

A few names are left out, but I'm glad Joe is there
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Old 27-07-2013, 10:25
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Matt hasl let it be known that he ain't happy about being left out and I don't blame him.

Good,mash up though.
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Old 28-07-2013, 05:01
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I'm mildly irked that One Direction's song is the base for that mashup. Yes, we know that they're the show's biggest success story already!
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Old 28-07-2013, 08:45
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Why would Matt Cardle be on there?

To remind everyone of the frequent failures?
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Old 28-07-2013, 12:27
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Why would Matt Cardle be on there?

To remind everyone of the frequent failures?
Matt was the winner when the show was reaching audience viewing figures of 17 million. The public used their wallets to finance dialling up and viewing, giving him the majority votes (kerching, kerchang) from week 1, minus one week to the end of the series. By ignoring him and other winners who were not included in the mash up, well what does that say to the public? Contempt and your vote is not worthy of the show, but the money generated from it was nice.

That is one of the reasons why I have no desire to watch the programme and tuned out after 2010. As I have said, it is not just Matt, but the other winners of the show that they chose to ignore for the mash up.

Personally, I think it only benefits Matt, the publicity provided when he is promoting "Loving You", "Te Amo" the Spanish version, has been fantastic, owing to the immaturity and pettiness of the X Factor show. Will Talbot said it all.

It comes across as an own goal for Syco and no doubt there are others the same as me who have been influenced against the show owing to the negative media campaigns, gimmicks, tricks and media manipulation.

Good luck to all those that were kept out and must check what they are upto as I wish them well.
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Old 28-07-2013, 12:47
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Not everyone can be in the video and they've gone for the hit singles mainly - hence why Amelia gets in instead of Rebecca Ferguson. Some songs also won't fit (see Shayne Ward who they squeezed in awkwardly!).

You can't please everyone.

As for Matt, yes people voted for him. But his "success" ever since suggests that they've forgotten about him so it's hardly going to be a concern.
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Old 28-07-2013, 13:05
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Not everyone can be in the video and they've gone for the hit singles mainly - hence why Amelia gets in instead of Rebecca Ferguson. Some songs also won't fit (see Shayne Ward who they squeezed in awkwardly!).

You can't please everyone.

As for Matt, yes people voted for him. But his "success" ever since suggests that they've forgotten about him so it's hardly going to be a concern.
When he won xf got over 19m tuned in. His winners single sold over a million copies,his debut album reached platinum status and was no 2. The follow up album got to no 8 and now his is about to prepare the release of his 3rd album and the lead single is a duet with Mel C which is already making waves.

Forgotten. I think not!
Plus,he produced most,plays most instrument on the songs. Name another xf act who does that.
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Old 28-07-2013, 13:09
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I think Matt sums up some of the issues of X factor: votes don't equal sales.
He got loads of votes, but the sales didn't follow (I'm not saying he didn't sell anything, but considering the amount of votes he got & how he was actually crushing the competition during X factor, the sales must have been disapointing).

What should X factor highlight: those who ended up having great sales/careers on the back of X factors or those who had been chosen as winners but ultimately didn't perform as expected?
I am not saying there is an easy answer to this BTW.
X factor is selling us a story that they can make a star out of their contestants, so they would of course chose those who had a shining moment...

Then again, Joe is more of a Matt Cardle than a JLS in sales. They got a career in music which is great for them, but it's not "pop star" level that the X factor boasts about (no dissing here!).
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Old 28-07-2013, 13:32
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When he won xf got over 19m tuned in. His winners single sold over a million copies,his debut album reached platinum status and was no 2. The follow up album got to no 8 and now his is about to prepare the release of his 3rd album and the lead single is a duet with Mel C which is already making waves.

Forgotten. I think not!
Plus,he produced most,plays most instrument on the songs. Name another xf act who does that.
But it's X Factor. And number 8 albums put him right at the bottom of the pile in terms of success. Nor does it really line-up with all those 2010 numbers you're quoting. Especially when One Direction finished third and now...

They'll have had a "core" group of acts and songs that had to be featured. Matt was probably on the long list of acts that could be used to fill out the rest but didn't make it in. Someone was always going to be offended and it was always going to be someone with lower sales. Rebecca Ferguson probably has more reason to complain than anyone.
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Old 28-07-2013, 13:38
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Yep, he failed as a mainstream recording artist.

His tours now play in venues with hundreds rather than thousands of seats.

And the arrogant entitled attitude of him and his manager really does him no favours, its a pity really because his duet with Mel C is decent.
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Old 28-07-2013, 14:13
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Yep, he failed as a mainstream recording artist.

His tours now play in venues with hundreds rather than thousands of seats.

And the arrogant entitled attitude of him and his manager really does him no favours, its a pity really because his duet with Mel C is decent.
Not everybody is a lover of Arena venues. I avoid them like the plague and enjoyed his 'Unplugged Tour', especially Union Chapel. The tour that Columbia and Syco organised when he was under contract was medium sized venues and again nice and intimate. Strange they did not think the winner of the series deserved Arena sized venues, but each to his own and no doubt they had there own agenda with regards promoting the winner of the 2010 X Factor Show.

Matt's first album went in at number 2, platinum sales, but never verified because his record company, from which he parted with, had to sanction and finance the certification. His next album went in at Number 8, pleasing his fans and not bad considering there was minimal promotion. It then hung around in the Top 100 for around 8 weeks, if not more.

Most people who meet him, both in the industry and outside are impressed by both his courtesy and humble nature. However it is acknowledged, by himself and others that he is a perfectionist where his craft is concerned and a control freak with the ownership of his creativity. Something common to artists and those with creative talent. His genre is Musician rather than Celebrity and he has no wish to enter into the media manipulation that guarantees fast track celebrity, as you sell your soul for that red top front page. Instead he embraces the professionalism that comes with respect for his art.

No doubt the cause of many of his problems with Syco and Columbia. He is in it for longterm reasons as opposed to the three year project,chase the candle then either burn,go the Amy Winehouse route or and end up oneither reality shows or ' the then and now' gig circuit.

He wants to embrace and enjoy the experience, but keep it within his own comfort zone, stretching and growing as a musician, rather than a celebrity. Whatever happens with his career, and it has publicly been stated that he might be one of the big come back success stories of the year, of if it stays steady and nice, as it has been since leaving Syco and Columbia, then he will be more than happy with either direction.

His new single'Loving You/Te Amo' is not released until 18 August and it is already number 53 on the UK Airplay chart.

http://ukairplaychart.com/uk/ can substantiate the comment.

Anyway, the history of Matt is not what the thread is about, but thank you for allowing me the opportunity to sing his praises.
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Old 28-07-2013, 14:23
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Look Matt's insanely hot and cute and all but c'mon his material hasn't been that good to warrant a place on the mash - up. None of it except that awful boring song When We Collide have even been commercially successful.

Also like Rebecca, Matt is more of a album artist hence why you can't pick a single off it.

And Rebecca tries to keep the label of a credible artist by being as much removed from the XF label as possible..I think Simon has actually made her do this because she appeals to a completely different demographic compared to the rest of the artists the X Factor has produced.
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Old 28-07-2013, 14:52
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Look Matt's insanely hot and cute and all but c'mon his material hasn't been that good to warrant a place on the mash - up. None of it except that awful boring song When We Collide have even been commercially successful.

Also like Rebecca, Matt is more of a album artist hence why you can't pick a single off it.

And Rebecca tries to keep the label of a credible artist by being as much removed from the XF label as possible..I think Simon has actually made her do this because she appeals to a completely different demographic compared to the rest of the artists the X Factor has produced.
The publicity with leaving out many of the X Factor winners and the advantages of highlighting Matt, the winner of the most successful series being left out, has done him wonders. It shows Syco to hold the voting public in contempt, reminds me why I stopped watching the show and have absolutely no interest in checking out the mash up.

Sad that Rebecca was also excluded, but she is in legal proceedings with her old management team and so that might be a factor. Also disappointed that some of the previous winners were also left out. It says a lot about how the show treats the members of the public, those that put their hands in their pockets and generated substantial amounts of money for the show and programme makers, when they voted.
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Old 28-07-2013, 14:57
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The publicity with leaving out many of the X Factor winners and the advantages of highlighting Matt, the winner of the most successful series being left out, has done him wonders. It shows Syco to hold the voting public in contempt, reminds me why I stopped watching the show and have absolutely no interest in checking out the mash up.

Sad that Rebecca was also excluded, but she is in legal proceedings with her old management team and so that might be a factor. Also disappointed that some of the previous winners were also left out. It says a lot about how the show treats the members of the public, those that put their hands in their pockets and generated substantial amounts of money for the show and programme makers, when they voted.
Rebecca has now settled her dispute with her former management.
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Old 28-07-2013, 15:03
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Is it really 10 years? It feels like longer and needs a break.
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Old 28-07-2013, 15:59
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But it's X Factor. And number 8 albums put him right at the bottom of the pile in terms of success. Nor does it really line-up with all those 2010 numbers you're quoting. Especially when One Direction finished third and now...

They'll have had a "core" group of acts and songs that had to be featured. Matt was probably on the long list of acts that could be used to fill out the rest but didn't make it in. Someone was always going to be offended and it was always going to be someone with lower sales. Rebecca Ferguson probably has more reason to complain than anyone.
His no 8 place of the second album was released outside xf. He dodnt perform on a major tvshow, and they had a very little budget.

1D has had Syco behind them. You,cant compare that. Matt has left the major labels now even rejecting an offer from universal.

Hes doing really well and ive got no doubt he'll get where he wants to
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Old 28-07-2013, 16:39
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I'm very happy that Misha is there. Thought she might of not made the cut. Diana could've still been there though.
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Old 28-07-2013, 16:50
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Love song mashups. This goes quite well.

Who'd have thought Bleeding Love would go so well with the What Makes You Beautiful instrumental lol
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Old 28-07-2013, 17:51
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So he can't even get a booking on a decent TV show now? But they should be using him to highlight the success of X Factor over the years? Because that's what the advert is there to do - it's not a name-check for all the winners. It's about how the show has created stars over the past 10 years and Matt isn't near the top of the list so it wasn't going to be a priority to include him.

Good luck to him with what he's doing now. But if he's so happy out of the limelight and away from Syco I'm not quite sure why he's throwing a hissy about being left out of a 1D/Leona/Cher Lloyd/JLS dominated advert.
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Old 28-07-2013, 17:55
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So he can't even get a booking on a decent TV show now? But they should be using him to highlight the success of X Factor over the years? Because that's what the advert is there to do - it's not a name-check for all the winners. It's about how the show has created stars over the past 10 years and Matt isn't near the top of the list so it wasn't going to be a priority to include him.

Good luck to him with what he's doing now. But if he's so happy out of the limelight and away from Syco I'm not quite sure why he's throwing a hissy about being left out of a 1D/Leona/Cher Lloyd/JLS dominated advert.
It wasnt Matt who complained it was his Manager Will.

I didnt say he couldnt get a performance on a top tv show. I said he didnt do one. Youll have to ask Matt about that.

Not including the winner who topped the votes and got the highest ratings is stupid imo but each to their own.
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Old 28-07-2013, 18:03
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Not including the winner who topped the votes and got the highest ratings is stupid imo but each to their own.
33 NUMBER ONES
57 UK CHART HITS
A DECADE OF X FACTOR

It's not "9 winners...". The advert is there to highlight the successes of the show in creating hits and successful artists and they've chosen the people they feel best able to do that - notably acts with major hit singles or acts that have been more high profile recently. It's not to namecheck the winners.

AFAIK Steve Brookstein got the most public votes of any winner and he's not in it either.
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Old 28-07-2013, 18:32
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33 NUMBER ONES
57 UK CHART HITS
A DECADE OF X FACTOR

It's not "9 winners...". The advert is there to highlight the successes of the show in creating hits and successful artists and they've chosen the people they feel best able to do that - notably acts with major hit singles or acts that have been more high profile recently. It's not to namecheck the winners.

AFAIK Steve Brookstein got the most public votes of any winner and he's not in it either.
It makes even less sense then lol
Matt had a no 1 single without a charity tag to make it sell more,the follow up single was 6 with debut album no 2. That fits the UK charts hits and no 1 argument.
And on top of that pulling in 20 m viewers while topping 9 out of 10 shows is kinda unique wouldnt you say?
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Old 28-07-2013, 18:37
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love it, they should release it as a stand alone song for charity
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Old 28-07-2013, 18:37
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Matt was the winner when the show was reaching audience viewing figures of 17 million. The public used their wallets to finance dialling up and viewing, giving him the majority votes (kerching, kerchang) from week 1, minus one week to the end of the series. By ignoring him and other winners who were not included in the mash up, well what does that say to the public? Contempt and your vote is not worthy of the show, but the money generated from it was nice.

That is one of the reasons why I have no desire to watch the programme and tuned out after 2010. As I have said, it is not just Matt, but the other winners of the show that they chose to ignore for the mash up.

Personally, I think it only benefits Matt, the publicity provided when he is promoting "Loving You", "Te Amo" the Spanish version, has been fantastic, owing to the immaturity and pettiness of the X Factor show. Will Talbot said it all.

It comes across as an own goal for Syco and no doubt there are others the same as me who have been influenced against the show owing to the negative media campaigns, gimmicks, tricks and media manipulation.

Good luck to all those that were kept out and must check what they are upto as I wish them well.
lol save the delusion for the appreciation thread
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Old 28-07-2013, 18:45
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I don't understand why Amelia,Misha and Union J are in this video, they haven't even released albums are their singles haven't exactly been hits.
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