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Charlie lied
wise-up
28-07-2013
People keep going on about Hazel lying about the aggression thing but Charlie lied about the daley comment, she said the words she used was 'the daley situation' but she did say its like how daley felt. She also said to the other HMs that she has always been loyal to Hazel but she told Gina she was only loyal to her and Dexter in the house. People keep making out as though Hazel is manipulating Charlie and saying she is not really her friend but Charlie is clearly not as much of a good friend to Hazel as she makes out.
quasimoron
28-07-2013
We know this but anything but Hazel vilification does not compute.
Mucus_Moldybaum
28-07-2013
When Charlie is saying 'Its a bit like daley felt' she is thinking Daley was accused of agressive behaviour and was ejected from the house'

The fear is being accused of unacceptable behaviour and being ejected. When it was accedental.

Give the way Hazel was talking about Charlie before she came to confront/resolve it is a false friendship on Hazel's part.
Paul Michael
28-07-2013
Charlie is nice.
Hazel is evil.
N19
28-07-2013
Charlie has made up with Hazel now, but before doing so she went into the diary room to bitch about Hazel. I don't like Charlie after last night, she came across very self centered and immature. She cannot think about anyone only herself.
MerDeNoms_
28-07-2013
Both were in the wrong.

How many times have we seen Charlie lie?
And Hazel? exactly

The argument started because Hazel lied.
radiofree
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by Paul Michael:
“Charlie is nice.
Hazel is evil.”

charlie is 'meh'.
hazel is 'meh'.
Mucus_Moldybaum
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by N19:
“Charlie has made up with Hazel now, but before doing so she went into the diary room to bitch about Hazel. I don't like Charlie after last night, she came across very self centered and immature. She cannot think about anyone only herself.”

Or perhaps she got very worried that she might be ejected for accidental 'aggressive' behaviour.
Radical Joe
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by Mucus_Moldybaum:
“Or perhaps she got very worried that she might be ejected for accidental 'aggressive' behaviour.”

I doubt that very much, personally. Still, if that's your real opinion (and I can't think why you'd post BS) then fair enough.
wise-up
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by MerDeNoms_:
“Both were in the wrong.

How many times have we seen Charlie lie?
And Hazel? exactly

The argument started because Hazel lied.”

The argument started because Charlie said the Daley comment and because she would not let the issue drop. Hazel had went to bed, then Charlie came in and said the comment, Hazel left the room as she was upset, then it kicked off about the use of the word aggression, Hazel had not 'lied/got mixed up' when Charlie made that below the belt comment. Charlie also kept the argument going. What times has Hazel lied (before tonight as that could have been a genuine mistake)? If you say about what she said in her VT, she did not use the words Gina used in her explanation so she did not lie when she said she did not say what Gina claimed. She never lied about the Daley thing, she told Dan everything including her warning, she didn't tell the others as she doesn't want them to think badly of Daley/its not their business. So what has she lied about?
big brother 9
28-07-2013
well it is secrets and lies season
shelleyj89
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by MerDeNoms_:
“Both were in the wrong.

How many times have we seen Charlie lie?
And Hazel? exactly

The argument started because Hazel lied.”

The argument started because Charlie, yet again, spoke before she thought and offended someone.
john176bramley
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by wise-up:
“The argument started because Charlie said the Daley comment and because she would not let the issue drop. Hazel had went to bed, then Charlie came in and said the comment, Hazel left the room as she was upset, then it kicked off about the use of the word aggression, Hazel had not 'lied/got mixed up' when Charlie made that below the belt comment. Charlie also kept the argument going. What times has Hazel lied (before tonight as that could have been a genuine mistake)? If you say about what she said in her VT, she did not use the words Gina used in her explanation so she did not lie when she said she did not say what Gina claimed. She never lied about the Daley thing, she told Dan everything including her warning, she didn't tell the others as she doesn't want them to think badly of Daley/its not their business. So what has she lied about?”

The argument started because Hazel said Charlie was aggressive.

We'll hopefully see tonight if Charlie was indeed aggressive, if not then Hazel made a boo boo.
little-monster
28-07-2013
I am watching the footage and although i haven't got to the daley bit, Hazel and Callum were talking about the eye incident and it was a silly mistake. I never heard Hazel say she was aggressive but it may of been when the Live feed went silent and play the birdsong.
lubo 25
28-07-2013
Charlie is a very dangerous lady
BelindaJ
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by lubo 25:
“Charlie is a very dangerous lady”

just shows you how in life don't share your negative things with others because the boos and slapslapgate were used by wasted Charlie and gina and calum, to try to win approval from the public by slating the young Irish model. Classic gang bullying.
Mucus_Moldybaum
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by wise-up:
“The argument started because Charlie said the Daley comment and because she would not let the issue drop. Hazel had went to bed, then Charlie came in and said the comment, Hazel left the room as she was upset, then it kicked off about the use of the word aggression, Hazel had not 'lied/got mixed up' when Charlie made that below the belt comment. Charlie also kept the argument going. What times has Hazel lied (before tonight as that could have been a genuine mistake)? If you say about what she said in her VT, she did not use the words Gina used in her explanation so she did not lie when she said she did not say what Gina claimed. She never lied about the Daley thing, she told Dan everything including her warning, she didn't tell the others as she doesn't want them to think badly of Daley/its not their business. So what has she lied about?”

No it started because Hazel poked a cucumber in Charlies mouth three times, and then got the cucumber poked back but accidentally into Hazels eye, then Charlie coughed because they were playing taste something awful like chilli and Charlie in the coughing fit spilt her wine on Hazel and then Hazel was called to the DR and Hazel was later overheard saying the word 'aggressive' to Callum who being mr nice agreed with Hazel, only to find himself saying he did not call Charlie agressive Hazel wat the one who said it.
wise-up
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“The argument started because Hazel said Charlie was aggressive.

We'll hopefully see tonight if Charlie was indeed aggressive, if not then Hazel made a boo boo.”

Hazel only got upset and argued with charlie after the daley comment, if that had not happened Hazel would not have gotten angry and fought with her.
john176bramley
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by wise-up:
“Hazel only got upset and argued with charlie after the daley comment, if that had not happened Hazel would not have gotten angry and fought with her.”

But Charlie was already upset because Hazel was making out she was aggressive, if Hazel hadn't said it they'd have carried on having fun.

You can't expect Charley to ignore the fact she was called aggressive, HMs get warnings for aggressive behaviour sometimes they're even thrown out.
swaydog
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“The argument started because Hazel said Charlie was aggressive.

We'll hopefully see tonight if Charlie was indeed aggressive, if not then Hazel made a boo boo.”

They already showed the cucumber incident earlier today on watsits show(whiteteeth)

If Hazel was referring to that incident as aggressive then that's another lie.

*Rylan's show...had a bit of a mind blank then
wise-up
28-07-2013
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“But Charlie was already upset because Hazel was making out she was aggressive, if Hazel hadn't said it they'd have carried on having fun.

You can't expect Charley to ignore the fact she was called aggressive, HMs get warnings for aggressive behaviour sometimes they're even thrown out.”

But she could have talked to her abput it and said to Hazel she was upset, and listened to Hazel's response but instead she said the daley thing and when hazel later tried to explain the use of the word aggressive she talked over her and would not listen.
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