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So Hazel doesn't know what she is saying and neither does Charlie.
Hazel lied twice, she did say aggressive and she didn't have a sore eye. Charlie was wrong to mention Daley but I think she was worried about being called aggressive because of what happened to Daley. Firstly I would say that the whole thing got out of hand and like Hazel said it was a silly misunderstanding to start with. I really don't believe Hazel meant to lie and do believe that she forgot she used the word "aggressive" to Callum. When she went to the dr she said that they were fooling around and Charlie was a little heavy handed and this is what she obviously thought that she said to Callum because she later used those words again outside of the dr. But Callum had agreed with Hazel of the aggressive comment and said yes, but without malice! If do think that if Charlie had not gone into the bedroom and made the Daley comment then they would have talked it through and got over the matter But as per usual Charlie cannot keep that mouth shut of hers and puts her foot in it once again just like the comment in the week about Gina basically being ugly! |
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No, it wasn't. It was pretty clear on the LF, but the HL version is chopped to shreds.
Calum even said several times in the garden afterwards that Hazel tried to make out she didn't say it. |
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It didn't hurt her eye, if your eye is hurt, it waters or you blink repeatedly, it didn't.
Hazel has classic victims syndrome. It also depends on the type of eye injury whether it waters, blinks or otherwise. Hazel didn't make herself out to be a victim, as it was done by another, Charlie, who wasn't as drunk as she made out either. |
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She thought her bezzie mate Hazel was trying to stitch her up behind her back,like when she said to Daley he did nothing wrong,but then was saying he had been aggressive behind his back.
This is what Charlie's beef was (not my words ). |
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It didn't hurt her eye, if your eye is hurt, it waters or you blink repeatedly, it didn't.
Hazel has classic victims syndrome.
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Rubbish, maybe Hazel didn't want to make a big issue of it and told BB that she was ok. It's not a crime to say something is ok when one felt it wasn't, but to stop a discord from happening, then saying it's ok is the thing to do.
It also depends on the type of eye injury whether it waters, blinks or otherwise. Hazel didn't make herself out to be a victim, as it was done by another, Charlie, who wasn't as drunk as she made out either. Charlie hurt hazel, Charlie is rough thoughtless and tactless. hazel most certainly did the victim thing and blew the wole Daley remark out of proportion. |
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So Hazel doesn't know what she is saying and neither does Charlie.
Hazel lied twice, she did say aggressive and she didn't have a sore eye. Charlie was wrong to mention Daley but I think she was worried about being called aggressive because of what happened to Daley. |
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All 3 are to blame, Charlie was getting more aggresive or should I say heavy handed than Hazel dure in the game not malicious just had too much drink.
Hazel got caught slightly as you can see from dexters reaction but made it worse that it was, she also said at first she didnt say the word aggressive. When Charlie confronted Callum about agreeing with Hazel that she got aggressive he said he didnt when he did. Then Charlie put her foot in her mouth again as usual. All something out of nothing. |
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She said to Callum 'Charlie can be a bit aggressive went drunk, to which Callum said I KNOW SHE CAN'
Wheres all the backlash for Callum from Charlie? Charlie even said on live feed to Callum' I know you only said it in the heat of the moment' So its OK for Callum to say it but Hazel says it and Charlie goes off on one. Why cant people see Charlie is a nut job. Hazel admitted she said aggressive after Callum explained Charlie thought Hazel had said it in the dairy room. But this was conveniently cut from the HL show to keep this argument going between the public. Callum agreed Charlie was aggressive at the end,because she was drunk. So why didn't Charlie have a go at him for lying
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It was even clearer on LF that Hazel got busted lying.
Calum even said several times in the garden afterwards that Hazel tried to make out she didn't say it. ![]() I find her coldness, control and stance quite scary and aggressive in itself to be honest. She challenges, stares and defies the other person to answer her back then either, knowing they won't, after she's had the last words - walks away or else she derides them to make their point irrelevant to anyone listening ...then walks away. Felt her Mother's sign off in her letter rather distant too, .... Audrey I believe .... no Mum, Mother but Audrey.. Rather distant and not so warm.which is how I see Hazel as a person in the house.
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Funny how Charlie describes herself as aggressive in her entrance interview, but is so offended by anyone else saying it...
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Firstly I would say that the whole thing got out of hand and like Hazel said it was a silly misunderstanding to start with. I really don't believe Hazel meant to lie and do believe that she forgot she used the word "aggressive" to Callum. When she went to the dr she said that they were fooling around and Charlie was a little heavy handed and this is what she obviously thought that she said to Callum because she later used those words again outside of the dr. But Callum had agreed with Hazel of the aggressive comment and said yes, but without malice!
If do think that if Charlie had not gone into the bedroom and made the Daley comment then they would have talked it through and got over the matter But as per usual Charlie cannot keep that mouth shut of hers and puts her foot in it once again just like the comment in the week about Gina basically being ugly! |
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I don't think they would have made it up. Minutes before Charlie came to the bedroom, Hazel was scathing about Charlie and stated that she doesn't think they'd be going out for drink after the show because basically she couldn't handle a drunk Charlie when out. Hazel had started to distance herself as she frequently does when she feels it'd interfere with her controlled world.
Hazel is a cold, conniving old fish. ![]()
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Firstly I would say that the whole thing got out of hand and like Hazel said it was a silly misunderstanding to start with. I really don't believe Hazel meant to lie and do believe that she forgot she used the word "aggressive" to Callum. When she went to the dr she said that they were fooling around and Charlie was a little heavy handed and this is what she obviously thought that she said to Callum because she later used those words again outside of the dr. But Callum had agreed with Hazel of the aggressive comment and said yes, but without malice!
If do think that if Charlie had not gone into the bedroom and made the Daley comment then they would have talked it through and got over the matter But as per usual Charlie cannot keep that mouth shut of hers and puts her foot in it once again just like the comment in the week about Gina basically being ugly! |
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EXACTLY! Who here on planet Earth has a delayed eye response to injury? Let's test this out. Stick cucumber into eye. Carry on as normal. After a few hours wince and call cucumber AGGRESSIVE!
![]() One day at work something hit me in the eye when i was cutting the grass. It hurt initially from the impact but then nothing. The following morning i woke up and i had this sort off annoying feeling in my eye. Each time i blinked it would really hurt. When too the doctors and spent the next week with a eye patch on and putting some cream in my eye. Absolute nightmare trying to sleep because i couldnt shut my eye because it hurt so much. I actually have a small scar on my eye ball from it. I know this didnt happen to Hazel but it can happen. |
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It looked from the show that it was Hazel who started with the cucumbers when they were in the kitchen area and she tried to shove it in Charlies mouth from behind. They then began to play. Cucumbergate started from there!
Hazel says about it though the following It was a HARD STAB with a cucumber I DONT THINK theres anything meant by it She was getting a bit AGGRESSIVE She shoved it RIGHT IN Later on she called Charlie THAT GIRL and DRUNK AS A SKUNK Charlie did not like being called aggressive and as Daley had been ejected for being aggressive was worried. Charlie though never actually explained this very well to Hazel (foot in mouth syndrome) ie "i know, its just, its not very, a bit like probably how , not how daley felt but a little bit like,,,its nothing to do with that actually, i dont know, Daley though is not to be mentioned. Hazel should know that calling charlie aggressive and calling what daley did aggressive are two different things. |
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It didn't even look like it touched her face much!
I think the Daley comment was a bit.... shouldn't of been said!But come on Hazel! It wasn't aggressive! She admitted to BB it wasn't meant in a bad way, then all of a sudden it was aggressive! |
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Same thing happened a few weeks ago.
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Hazel has a lot of composure, and assertiveness. But she didn't take any responsibility for her use of words. Or maybe she was unaware what effect the word 'aggressive' would have.
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Hazel never does or says anything wrong ...in her eyes. She has never once accepted any blame for anything done or said in the house...so it must all be Charlie or someone else to blame.
![]() I find her coldness, control and stance quite scary and aggressive in itself to be honest. She challenges, stares and defies the other person to answer her back then either, knowing they won't, after she's had the last words - walks away or else she derides them to make their point irrelevant to anyone listening ...then walks away. Felt her Mother's sign off in her letter rather distant too, .... Audrey I believe .... no Mum, Mother but Audrey.. Rather distant and not so warm.which is how I see Hazel as a person in the house.She's very arrogant and, if challenged, she resorts immediately to aggression. Sneering scathing nastiness. It's why I is like her. |
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Hazel has a lot of composure, and assertiveness. But she didn't take any responsibility for her use of words. Or maybe she was unaware what effect the word 'aggressive' would have.
I think Charlie's hears aggressive to be deliberately trying to hurt somebody, viciously or maliciously Huge misunderstanding over that word, seems likely to me. |
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This is true so dont say im just making it up to make Hazel look better.
One day at work something hit me in the eye when i was cutting the grass. It hurt initially from the impact but then nothing. The following morning i woke up and i had this sort off annoying feeling in my eye. Each time i blinked it would really hurt. When too the doctors and spent the next week with a eye patch on and putting some cream in my eye. Absolute nightmare trying to sleep because i couldnt shut my eye because it hurt so much. I actually have a small scar on my eye ball from it. I know this didnt happen to Hazel but it can happen. |
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So .....Charlie pokes someone in the eye (albeit accidentally) whilst behaving like amoron and then goes on to make a very insensitive,slightly underhand comment ut somenow manages to make herself the victim.
The girl is sly ....all tnis 'oh dezr me I really should think before I speak' rubbish is a bit to convenient. The girl is 27 - she needs to sort herself out. It's all me, me, me. |
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It looked from the show that it was Hazel who started with the cucumbers when they were in the kitchen area and she tried to shove it in Charlies mouth from behind. They then began to play. Cucumbergate started from there!
Hazel says about it though the following It was a HARD STAB with a cucumber I DONT THINK theres anything meant by it She was getting a bit AGGRESSIVE She shoved it RIGHT IN Later on she called Charlie THAT GIRL and DRUNK AS A SKUNK Charlie did not like being called aggressive and as Daley had been ejected for being aggressive was worried. Charlie though never actually explained this very well to Hazel (foot in mouth syndrome) ie "i know, its just, its not very, a bit like probably how , not how daley felt but a little bit like,,,its nothing to do with that actually, i dont know, Daley though is not to be mentioned. Hazel should know that calling charlie aggressive and calling what daley did aggressive are two different things. She had a go at Callum first, got nowhere with him so started on Hazel. |
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As neither a Hazel or a Charlie fan, here's my take on the whole incident.
Hazel started a playfight. Charlie joined in and accidentally poked her in the eye. Hazel was called to the diary room where she said it was an accident and she was OK. Hazel then told Callum she thought Charlie was aggressive. Charlie overheard and protested her innocence saying it was an accident. Hazel denied saying Charlie was aggressive. Charlie fought her corner but, unfortunately, brought Daley into it. Hazel then got on her high horse saying it was nothing to do with Daley and telling Charlie she should think before she speaks. Whose fault was the argument? YOU decide! |
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