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Old 28-07-2013, 22:43
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So Hazel doesn't know what she is saying and neither does Charlie.

Hazel lied twice, she did say aggressive and she didn't have a sore eye.

Charlie was wrong to mention Daley but I think she was worried about being called aggressive because of what happened to Daley.

Firstly I would say that the whole thing got out of hand and like Hazel said it was a silly misunderstanding to start with. I really don't believe Hazel meant to lie and do believe that she forgot she used the word "aggressive" to Callum. When she went to the dr she said that they were fooling around and Charlie was a little heavy handed and this is what she obviously thought that she said to Callum because she later used those words again outside of the dr. But Callum had agreed with Hazel of the aggressive comment and said yes, but without malice!

If do think that if Charlie had not gone into the bedroom and made the Daley comment then they would have talked it through and got over the matter But as per usual Charlie cannot keep that mouth shut of hers and puts her foot in it once again just like the comment in the week about Gina basically being ugly!
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Old 28-07-2013, 22:44
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No, it wasn't. It was pretty clear on the LF, but the HL version is chopped to shreds.
It was even clearer on LF that Hazel got busted lying.
Calum even said several times in the garden afterwards that Hazel tried to make out she didn't say it.
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Old 28-07-2013, 22:46
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It didn't hurt her eye, if your eye is hurt, it waters or you blink repeatedly, it didn't.

Hazel has classic victims syndrome.
Rubbish, maybe Hazel didn't want to make a big issue of it and told BB that she was ok. It's not a crime to say something is ok when one felt it wasn't, but to stop a discord from happening, then saying it's ok is the thing to do.

It also depends on the type of eye injury whether it waters, blinks or otherwise. Hazel didn't make herself out to be a victim, as it was done by another, Charlie, who wasn't as drunk as she made out either.
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Old 28-07-2013, 22:47
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She thought her bezzie mate Hazel was trying to stitch her up behind her back,like when she said to Daley he did nothing wrong,but then was saying he had been aggressive behind his back.
This is what Charlie's beef was (not my words ).
When, and to whom has she said that Daley was aggressive?
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Old 28-07-2013, 22:48
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It didn't hurt her eye, if your eye is hurt, it waters or you blink repeatedly, it didn't.

Hazel has classic victims syndrome.
EXACTLY! Who here on planet Earth has a delayed eye response to injury? Let's test this out. Stick cucumber into eye. Carry on as normal. After a few hours wince and call cucumber AGGRESSIVE!
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Old 28-07-2013, 22:49
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Rubbish, maybe Hazel didn't want to make a big issue of it and told BB that she was ok. It's not a crime to say something is ok when one felt it wasn't, but to stop a discord from happening, then saying it's ok is the thing to do.

It also depends on the type of eye injury whether it waters, blinks or otherwise. Hazel didn't make herself out to be a victim, as it was done by another, Charlie, who wasn't as drunk as she made out either.
You're being unbalanced here. As per.......
Charlie hurt hazel, Charlie is rough thoughtless and tactless. hazel most certainly did the victim thing and blew the wole Daley remark out of proportion.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:01
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So Hazel doesn't know what she is saying and neither does Charlie.

Hazel lied twice, she did say aggressive and she didn't have a sore eye.

Charlie was wrong to mention Daley but I think she was worried about being called aggressive because of what happened to Daley.
I agree. Hazel for all that she was sober did nothing to calm the waters and if anything made an incident worse by doing the very thing that she threw at Charlie ie speaking without thinking by saying Charlie was aggressive.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:01
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All 3 are to blame, Charlie was getting more aggresive or should I say heavy handed than Hazel dure in the game not malicious just had too much drink.
Hazel got caught slightly as you can see from dexters reaction but made it worse that it was, she also said at first she didnt say the word aggressive.
When Charlie confronted Callum about agreeing with Hazel that she got aggressive he said he didnt when he did.
Then Charlie put her foot in her mouth again as usual.
All something out of nothing.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:04
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She said to Callum 'Charlie can be a bit aggressive went drunk, to which Callum said I KNOW SHE CAN'

Wheres all the backlash for Callum from Charlie?

Charlie even said on live feed to Callum' I know you only said it in the heat of the moment'

So its OK for Callum to say it but Hazel says it and Charlie goes off on one.
Why cant people see Charlie is a nut job.

Hazel admitted she said aggressive after Callum explained Charlie thought Hazel had said it in the dairy room.

But this was conveniently cut from the HL show to keep this argument going between the public.
I thought this
Callum agreed Charlie was aggressive at the end,because she was drunk.

So why didn't Charlie have a go at him for lying
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:05
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It was even clearer on LF that Hazel got busted lying.
Calum even said several times in the garden afterwards that Hazel tried to make out she didn't say it.
Hazel never does or says anything wrong ...in her eyes. She has never once accepted any blame for anything done or said in the house...so it must all be Charlie or someone else to blame.

I find her coldness, control and stance quite scary and aggressive in itself to be honest. She challenges, stares and defies the other person to answer her back then either, knowing they won't, after she's had the last words - walks away or else she derides them to make their point irrelevant to anyone listening ...then walks away.

Felt her Mother's sign off in her letter rather distant too, .... Audrey I believe .... no Mum, Mother but Audrey.. Rather distant and not so warm.which is how I see Hazel as a person in the house.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:08
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Funny how Charlie describes herself as aggressive in her entrance interview, but is so offended by anyone else saying it...
Charlie didn't have a problem with her mother and Dan throwing the word "aggressive" around concerning Callum!!! Which he wasn't, all he did, after weeks of jackies digs at him, was defend himself. Charlie went on and on for ages, she acts like a three year old, she takes no responsibility for the stupid comments that come out of her mouth, I am sick listening to her.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:09
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Firstly I would say that the whole thing got out of hand and like Hazel said it was a silly misunderstanding to start with. I really don't believe Hazel meant to lie and do believe that she forgot she used the word "aggressive" to Callum. When she went to the dr she said that they were fooling around and Charlie was a little heavy handed and this is what she obviously thought that she said to Callum because she later used those words again outside of the dr. But Callum had agreed with Hazel of the aggressive comment and said yes, but without malice!

If do think that if Charlie had not gone into the bedroom and made the Daley comment then they would have talked it through and got over the matter But as per usual Charlie cannot keep that mouth shut of hers and puts her foot in it once again just like the comment in the week about Gina basically being ugly!
I don't think they would have made it up. Minutes before Charlie came to the bedroom, Hazel was scathing about Charlie and stated that she doesn't think they'd be going out for drink after the show because basically she couldn't handle a drunk Charlie when out. Hazel had started to distance herself as she frequently does when she feels it'd interfere with her controlled world.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:11
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I don't think they would have made it up. Minutes before Charlie came to the bedroom, Hazel was scathing about Charlie and stated that she doesn't think they'd be going out for drink after the show because basically she couldn't handle a drunk Charlie when out. Hazel had started to distance herself as she frequently does when she feels it'd interfere with her controlled world.
Does anyone really think that Hazel even cares a jot for anyone in there? With regard to Charlie, just remember the other night's HL show when Charlie was trying to be supportive of Hazel, but instead Hazel cuddled Dan. Charlie even said "Aww I want a cuddle" but she got nothing. Hazel is a cold, conniving old fish.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:11
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Firstly I would say that the whole thing got out of hand and like Hazel said it was a silly misunderstanding to start with. I really don't believe Hazel meant to lie and do believe that she forgot she used the word "aggressive" to Callum. When she went to the dr she said that they were fooling around and Charlie was a little heavy handed and this is what she obviously thought that she said to Callum because she later used those words again outside of the dr. But Callum had agreed with Hazel of the aggressive comment and said yes, but without malice!

If do think that if Charlie had not gone into the bedroom and made the Daley comment then they would have talked it through and got over the matter But as per usual Charlie cannot keep that mouth shut of hers and puts her foot in it once again just like the comment in the week about Gina basically being ugly!
AGREED!!
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:14
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EXACTLY! Who here on planet Earth has a delayed eye response to injury? Let's test this out. Stick cucumber into eye. Carry on as normal. After a few hours wince and call cucumber AGGRESSIVE!
This is true so dont say im just making it up to make Hazel look better.
One day at work something hit me in the eye when i was cutting the grass.
It hurt initially from the impact but then nothing.

The following morning i woke up and i had this sort off annoying feeling in my eye. Each time i blinked it would really hurt.
When too the doctors and spent the next week with a eye patch on and putting some cream in my eye.
Absolute nightmare trying to sleep because i couldnt shut my eye because it hurt so much.

I actually have a small scar on my eye ball from it.

I know this didnt happen to Hazel but it can happen.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:17
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It looked from the show that it was Hazel who started with the cucumbers when they were in the kitchen area and she tried to shove it in Charlies mouth from behind. They then began to play. Cucumbergate started from there!

Hazel says about it though the following

It was a HARD STAB with a cucumber
I DONT THINK theres anything meant by it
She was getting a bit AGGRESSIVE
She shoved it RIGHT IN

Later on she called Charlie THAT GIRL and DRUNK AS A SKUNK

Charlie did not like being called aggressive and as Daley had been ejected for being aggressive was worried. Charlie though never actually explained this very well to Hazel (foot in mouth syndrome) ie "i know, its just, its not very, a bit like probably how , not how daley felt but a little bit like,,,its nothing to do with that actually, i dont know,

Daley though is not to be mentioned. Hazel should know that calling charlie aggressive and calling what daley did aggressive are two different things.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:19
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It didn't even look like it touched her face much!

I think the Daley comment was a bit.... shouldn't of been said!

But come on Hazel! It wasn't aggressive! She admitted to BB it wasn't meant in a bad way, then all of a sudden it was aggressive!
Why do you keep making anti hazel threads? I've noticed you've made so many
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:20
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Same thing happened a few weeks ago.
I agree - that is how I saw it!
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:22
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Hazel has a lot of composure, and assertiveness. But she didn't take any responsibility for her use of words. Or maybe she was unaware what effect the word 'aggressive' would have.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:23
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Hazel never does or says anything wrong ...in her eyes. She has never once accepted any blame for anything done or said in the house...so it must all be Charlie or someone else to blame.

I find her coldness, control and stance quite scary and aggressive in itself to be honest. She challenges, stares and defies the other person to answer her back then either, knowing they won't, after she's had the last words - walks away or else she derides them to make their point irrelevant to anyone listening ...then walks away.

Felt her Mother's sign off in her letter rather distant too, .... Audrey I believe .... no Mum, Mother but Audrey.. Rather distant and not so warm.which is how I see Hazel as a person in the house.
It's true that Hazel never acknowledges her own short comings

She's very arrogant and, if challenged, she resorts immediately to aggression. Sneering scathing nastiness.
It's why I is like her.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:25
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Hazel has a lot of composure, and assertiveness. But she didn't take any responsibility for her use of words. Or maybe she was unaware what effect the word 'aggressive' would have.
I think that Hazel uses the word aggressive to mean rough, careless, likely to result in harm .... Which it was.

I think Charlie's hears aggressive to be deliberately trying to hurt somebody, viciously or maliciously

Huge misunderstanding over that word, seems likely to me.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:27
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This is true so dont say im just making it up to make Hazel look better.
One day at work something hit me in the eye when i was cutting the grass.
It hurt initially from the impact but then nothing.

The following morning i woke up and i had this sort off annoying feeling in my eye. Each time i blinked it would really hurt.
When too the doctors and spent the next week with a eye patch on and putting some cream in my eye.
Absolute nightmare trying to sleep because i couldnt shut my eye because it hurt so much.

I actually have a small scar on my eye ball from it.

I know this didnt happen to Hazel but it can happen.
I also have a scarred eyeball from an injury at work too - went to hospital as initial pain was bad, I got drops and it seemed to ease up but then the next day I could hardly open it.... it can happen BUT Hazel would have had much more of an initial reaction IF the cucumber had any contact with her eye - my belief is that it touched near the eye rather than the eye itself
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:29
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So .....Charlie pokes someone in the eye (albeit accidentally) whilst behaving like amoron and then goes on to make a very insensitive,slightly underhand comment ut somenow manages to make herself the victim.

The girl is sly ....all tnis 'oh dezr me I really should think before I speak' rubbish is a bit to convenient. The girl is 27 - she needs to sort herself out. It's all me, me, me.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:32
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It looked from the show that it was Hazel who started with the cucumbers when they were in the kitchen area and she tried to shove it in Charlies mouth from behind. They then began to play. Cucumbergate started from there!

Hazel says about it though the following

It was a HARD STAB with a cucumber
I DONT THINK theres anything meant by it
She was getting a bit AGGRESSIVE
She shoved it RIGHT IN


Later on she called Charlie THAT GIRL and DRUNK AS A SKUNK

Charlie did not like being called aggressive and as Daley had been ejected for being aggressive was worried. Charlie though never actually explained this very well to Hazel (foot in mouth syndrome) ie "i know, its just, its not very, a bit like probably how , not how daley felt but a little bit like,,,its nothing to do with that actually, i dont know,

Daley though is not to be mentioned. Hazel should know that calling charlie aggressive and calling what daley did aggressive are two different things.
Is this really that bad for Charlie to go off on one?

She had a go at Callum first, got nowhere with him so started on Hazel.
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Old 28-07-2013, 23:32
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As neither a Hazel or a Charlie fan, here's my take on the whole incident.

Hazel started a playfight.
Charlie joined in and accidentally poked her in the eye.
Hazel was called to the diary room where she said it was an accident and she was OK.
Hazel then told Callum she thought Charlie was aggressive.
Charlie overheard and protested her innocence saying it was an accident.
Hazel denied saying Charlie was aggressive.
Charlie fought her corner but, unfortunately, brought Daley into it.
Hazel then got on her high horse saying it was nothing to do with Daley and telling Charlie she should think before she speaks.

Whose fault was the argument? YOU decide!
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