What was especially telling was that both Hazel and Callum blatantly lied about saying "aggressive."
Charlie is spot on
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Charlie is a nasty troublemaking drunk, she only shut up about the daly thing because she knew it would come across bad
Originally Posted by oxygenjj:
“the girl is tactless , not very bright is she , but there was no malice intended .
the argument was much ado about nothing”
“the girl is tactless , not very bright is she , but there was no malice intended .
the argument was much ado about nothing”
Are you sure there's no malice intended?
No, the argument was about everyone putting two and two together with Daley's ejection and Hazel's No.9 position and bad crowd reactions.
Originally Posted by davedastardly:
“Disgusting that there are so many on here prepared to excuse Daley's behaviour. Had he not acted like a thug he would not have been booted out irrespective of whatever Hazel said. There is no excuse for what he did.”
“Disgusting that there are so many on here prepared to excuse Daley's behaviour. Had he not acted like a thug he would not have been booted out irrespective of whatever Hazel said. There is no excuse for what he did.”
Hear hear.
Originally Posted by Haribo76:
“What was especially telling was that both Hazel and Callum blatantly lied about saying "aggressive."”
“What was especially telling was that both Hazel and Callum blatantly lied about saying "aggressive."”
Well Hazel said that Charlie was aggressive. Callum was about to sit down iirc. He appeared to be trying to smooth things over, and sort of grimaced the way people do when they are being forced to agree, and said "yes yes she was...but".
He should have never said that, but well done to Charlie who I usually consider to be quite thick, for sticking up for herself, and making an ingenious connection there.
The trouble with hazel is she never holds her hands up to doing anything wrong when things get out of hand. It's like saying , I wasn't involved in that bank robbery as I was only sitting outside in the the car,waiting to drive the thieves away.
Originally Posted by Skip65:
“The trouble with hazel is she never holds her hands up to doing anything wrong when things get out of hand. It's like saying , I wasn't involved in that bank robbery as I was only sitting outside in the the car,waiting to drive the thieves away.”
“The trouble with hazel is she never holds her hands up to doing anything wrong when things get out of hand. It's like saying , I wasn't involved in that bank robbery as I was only sitting outside in the the car,waiting to drive the thieves away.”
She never comes out with her issues with others, and confronts them. Likewise, when she's confronted, she performs very badly. She shouted down Charlie, and turned into Cinderella rushing to the pumpkin outside.
She's just good at bitching, backstabbing, lying and goading people. This is how I am always going to remember her.
Originally Posted by cool fool:
“Do you actually believe that?
I am horrified. Did you see the 'head but' shot?
”
“Do you actually believe that?
I am horrified. Did you see the 'head but' shot?
”
You the mean the one Hazel tried to give him? He had to step backwards to avoid it.
Originally Posted by Sammi42:
“I'm not excusing for one second what he done. But we have to remember the house doesn't know EXACTLY what he done, or the full story.
But that doesn't excuse the fact that Hazel is blowing this up more than it should be.
And I've always wondered, why did she go back and sleep in that room with him after what he done, if she was so terrified”
“I'm not excusing for one second what he done. But we have to remember the house doesn't know EXACTLY what he done, or the full story.
But that doesn't excuse the fact that Hazel is blowing this up more than it should be.
And I've always wondered, why did she go back and sleep in that room with him after what he done, if she was so terrified
”
I wish peeps would see Hazel for what she is rather than excusing her behaviour on the grounds of Daley's unacceptable actions. I too wondered why she went back into the safe house. She has an inflated opinion of herself and hates to be thwarted or rejected (Daley and Charlie); she also manipulated Dan into becoming her mouthpiece and tried to reel Callum in with her 'aggressive' remark. Nasty person.
I cant believe how history is rewritten here. Hazel has kept quiet and protected Daley, when she could have destroyed him.
She has done the opposite of play the victim.
Charlie was wrong last night and after saying the daley thing she lied about what she actually said. She ranted for hours and slated Hazel to anyone who would listen. She followed Hazel from room to room refusing to drop it.Charlie is aggressive when drunk and very tedious too.
It was a row over nothing fuelled by alcohol and Charlie and alcohol do not mix. The sad thing is even when Hazel is not wrong people will side with any adversary because they dislike her rather than that the other person is right. This what is happening here Imo and I cant believe any unbiased person would back Charlie.
She has done the opposite of play the victim.
Charlie was wrong last night and after saying the daley thing she lied about what she actually said. She ranted for hours and slated Hazel to anyone who would listen. She followed Hazel from room to room refusing to drop it.Charlie is aggressive when drunk and very tedious too.
It was a row over nothing fuelled by alcohol and Charlie and alcohol do not mix. The sad thing is even when Hazel is not wrong people will side with any adversary because they dislike her rather than that the other person is right. This what is happening here Imo and I cant believe any unbiased person would back Charlie.
Originally Posted by grayflower:
“Wow, Charlie impressed me!
Hazel is just using Charlie as a pretend friend until she leaves. Her real friend was Dan who put her in his very own witness protection programme. Now that he is not there, HMs are letting out suppressed attitudes and ideas about Hazel, and Dazelgate.
Hazel feels she can 'play' with drunk people any way she wants. She did the exact same thing with Daley. Then, when things go wrong, it turns into her being the victim of "aggression".
Hazel never confronts people with how she feels, and never tells the truth. When Charlie was trying to explain herself, Hazel refused to give her a fair listening. Truth is Hazel's enemy. She's utterly deceitful. Well done Charlie on defending yourself!”
“Wow, Charlie impressed me!
Hazel is just using Charlie as a pretend friend until she leaves. Her real friend was Dan who put her in his very own witness protection programme. Now that he is not there, HMs are letting out suppressed attitudes and ideas about Hazel, and Dazelgate.
Hazel feels she can 'play' with drunk people any way she wants. She did the exact same thing with Daley. Then, when things go wrong, it turns into her being the victim of "aggression".
Hazel never confronts people with how she feels, and never tells the truth. When Charlie was trying to explain herself, Hazel refused to give her a fair listening. Truth is Hazel's enemy. She's utterly deceitful. Well done Charlie on defending yourself!
”
Good post.
Originally Posted by HaloJoe:
“Thing is, Hazel didn't throw Daley 'under the bus' did she. He throw himself under the bus!”
“Thing is, Hazel didn't throw Daley 'under the bus' did she. He throw himself under the bus!”
Yep I agree. He is not a child, he is 28 years old and therefore responsible for his own actions. He saw that bus coming and he dived for it.
Plus and this is a big plus, Hazel had no desire to stitch him up. After all he was her fun. She was in her element being with him and all the awful flirting and boobs in the face. Why would she want to get rid of him? I think she said she was a bit freaked, because she was. but even though I can't stand Hazel, I don't think she said it to get rid of him.
Personally, if she had said all was fine, he can hold me down by the neck and threaten to finish me and butt me, having his face right up against mine, I would've thought a lot less of her, because his actions should not be dismissed as play fighting as that was not what it was about.
I think it's wrong that people think Hazel had no right to be freaked. It's almost like saying girls who wear provocative clothing and get raped deserved it. Hazel was play fighting so she deserved the threats and neck hold against her. It just makes me quite pee'd actually and I am really no fan of Hazel at all.
Originally Posted by jende:
“Yep I agree. He is not a child, he is 28 years old and therefore responsible for his own actions. He saw that bus coming and he dived for it.
Plus and this is a big plus, Hazel had no desire to stitch him up. After all he was her fun. She was in her element being with him and all the awful flirting and boobs in the face. Why would she want to get rid of him? I think she said she was a bit freaked, because she was. but even though I can't stand Hazel, I don't think she said it to get rid of him.
Personally, if she had said all was fine, he can hold me down by the neck and threaten to finish me and butt me, having his face right up against mine, I would've thought a lot less of her, because his actions should not be dismissed as play fighting as that was not what it was about.
I think it's wrong that people think Hazel had no right to be freaked. It's almost like saying girls who wear provocative clothing and get raped deserved it. Hazel was play fighting so she deserved the threats and neck hold against her. It just makes me quite pee'd actually and I am really no fan of Hazel at all.”
“Yep I agree. He is not a child, he is 28 years old and therefore responsible for his own actions. He saw that bus coming and he dived for it.
Plus and this is a big plus, Hazel had no desire to stitch him up. After all he was her fun. She was in her element being with him and all the awful flirting and boobs in the face. Why would she want to get rid of him? I think she said she was a bit freaked, because she was. but even though I can't stand Hazel, I don't think she said it to get rid of him.
Personally, if she had said all was fine, he can hold me down by the neck and threaten to finish me and butt me, having his face right up against mine, I would've thought a lot less of her, because his actions should not be dismissed as play fighting as that was not what it was about.
I think it's wrong that people think Hazel had no right to be freaked. It's almost like saying girls who wear provocative clothing and get raped deserved it. Hazel was play fighting so she deserved the threats and neck hold against her. It just makes me quite pee'd actually and I am really no fan of Hazel at all.”
except you have to remind yourself that upto the point of pulling daleys pants down it was hazel taunting, abusing daley.. he warned her of his moods when drunk .. and she still chose to humiliate him rather than giving him his duvet.. which is all he wanted all along
its from that point daleys mood changed, even so hazel didnt ask for help nor to be removed from being alone with daley.and she gave as much as she got from daley.
hardly an act of someone freaked/frightened.
both dont come out of it in a good way.
Originally Posted by grayflower:
“Wow, Charlie impressed me!
Hazel is just using Charlie as a pretend friend until she leaves. Her real friend was Dan who put her in his very own witness protection programme. Now that he is not there, HMs are letting out suppressed attitudes and ideas about Hazel, and Dazelgate.
Hazel feels she can 'play' with drunk people any way she wants. She did the exact same thing with Daley. Then, when things go wrong, it turns into her being the victim of "aggression".
Hazel never confronts people with how she feels, and never tells the truth. When Charlie was trying to explain herself, Hazel refused to give her a fair listening. Truth is Hazel's enemy. She's utterly deceitful. Well done Charlie on defending yourself!”
“Wow, Charlie impressed me!
Hazel is just using Charlie as a pretend friend until she leaves. Her real friend was Dan who put her in his very own witness protection programme. Now that he is not there, HMs are letting out suppressed attitudes and ideas about Hazel, and Dazelgate.
Hazel feels she can 'play' with drunk people any way she wants. She did the exact same thing with Daley. Then, when things go wrong, it turns into her being the victim of "aggression".
Hazel never confronts people with how she feels, and never tells the truth. When Charlie was trying to explain herself, Hazel refused to give her a fair listening. Truth is Hazel's enemy. She's utterly deceitful. Well done Charlie on defending yourself!
”
Bravo!!! This is exactly it!
People love to have a go at Charlie for "putting her foot in it" , truth is, its what most if us are thinking.
Originally Posted by grayflower:
“Wow, Charlie impressed me!
Hazel is just using Charlie as a pretend friend until she leaves. Her real friend was Dan who put her in his very own witness protection programme. Now that he is not there, HMs are letting out suppressed attitudes and ideas about Hazel, and Dazelgate.
Hazel feels she can 'play' with drunk people any way she wants. She did the exact same thing with Daley. Then, when things go wrong, it turns into her being the victim of "aggression".
Hazel never confronts people with how she feels, and never tells the truth. When Charlie was trying to explain herself, Hazel refused to give her a fair listening. Truth is Hazel's enemy. She's utterly deceitful. Well done Charlie on defending yourself!”
“Wow, Charlie impressed me!
Hazel is just using Charlie as a pretend friend until she leaves. Her real friend was Dan who put her in his very own witness protection programme. Now that he is not there, HMs are letting out suppressed attitudes and ideas about Hazel, and Dazelgate.
Hazel feels she can 'play' with drunk people any way she wants. She did the exact same thing with Daley. Then, when things go wrong, it turns into her being the victim of "aggression".
Hazel never confronts people with how she feels, and never tells the truth. When Charlie was trying to explain herself, Hazel refused to give her a fair listening. Truth is Hazel's enemy. She's utterly deceitful. Well done Charlie on defending yourself!
”
^ This ^
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