I didn't see the live feed so admit I might have missed things others have seen seen but I have no hidden agenda to portray hazel as a victim I don't particularly like either girl.

I'm saying Charlie was being aggressive because she seemed determined to carry on jabbing even when it was pointed out how rough she was being. some people do get aggressive with alcohol and I think she's one of them. It also makes you show your true colours and I just thought it was revealing what she said earlier.

tonites show was heavily edited and the nuance was lost in favour of hazel.

bb desperate to rehabilitate hazel with the viewers

Charlie was definitely being aggressive and you could tell she was getting frustrated every time that she missed Hazel, Charlie also got more forceful and forced the cucumber into Hazels face harder and harder each time! I think that Charlie has got quite a nasty streak and we definitely saw it last night. How people on here can say that the cucumber didn't even touch Hazels face then they are deluded. Charlie firstly caught Hazel on the mouth and then caught her eye. Why do people think that BB called Hazel to the dr then to see if she was alright for then?

Charlie then bringing up the Daley conversation was totally out of order and Charlie should not have even gone there!

I think that Charlie is playing the biggest game in the house, even moreso with Callum and Dexter who are vying for Charlies affections!

Why are you bringing Daley into this ? Is that you, Charlie ?

(And did you choose your username as a clue lol ? )

they wouldn't stand a chance against Jet. Whoevers evicted first should go up against Diane Youdale on bots with a phallic object of their choice, see who comes out on top.

IT WAS ALL DEXTER'S FAULT! He brought the cucumbers into the house.

Is that a joke?! I hope so.

Hazel was HITTING Charlie with the cucumber as well and SHOVING it in Charlie's face. Agreed, Charlie made contact which was an unfortunate accident when people are play fighting. There was no intent, no malice, no aggression (other than the fact that play fighting with objects is somewhat an aggressive act in itself).

Who started the cucumber fight? Hazel.

I just think it's very easy right now to argue that any incident involving a play fight with Hazel, the other housemate involved is to blame when in actual fact it's either both parties to blame or no one, for instance when Jackie left the house that night Hazel was chasing down Charlie and pinned her down to the kitchen floor, ATTACKING HER with nutella,, in actual fact it was just play fighting and no one was being aggressive but if this was me saying Hazel was being pinned by Charlie, there would be a bunch of threads calling for Charlie to be removed for attacking Hazel..

I seriously feel Hazel has been playing the victim for far too long.

Where did I say I wanted Hazel to win? I'm only interested in fairness winning out. The whole house (with the exception maybe of the twins) are going to turn against Hazel because they now know she is unpopular and by being nasty to her they think it will earn them extra points. It's like the rats leaving a sinking ship. I don't like people ganging up on one person no matter who it is.

You've said everything I feel about the situation. From the very start I felt Charlie was a sly one. As soon as she saw Gina/Dexter when they were in the safe house she was questioning them about everything. She again was right in there when it was Hazel/Daley, very sly I thought.

Also what really put me off her started when I watched live feed, Hazel was talking to her and Charlie was talking over her and I was like STFU...it really grates on me and I have had to turn feed off on more than one occasion because she just goes on and on and on.

I also thought she was like a mad woman with the cucumber and Hazel did tell her to stop.

I wasn't really keen on Hazel but I think she has been getting more stick than she deserves.

Of course she was aggressive. That's part of what makes the fuss so funny

Well said.

Even Charlie Admits that she jabbed her in the eye, get over it

Hazel pushed a cucumber into Charlie's mouth, we then saw Hazel forcing Charlie towards the floor, she then again pushed a cucumber into Charlie's mouth. It was when Charlie tried to return the 'favour', that things got out of hand. Hazel said "don't punch me in the face with it". If Charlie was doing that, then what was it that Hazel had been doing to Charlie?

Hazel and Callum will probably be nominated. I don't like the ganging up either but I suppose it is inevitable with the end in sight as they hot up their games.
They know there could be more BB twists on nominations to come so they are all a bit edgy because no one expected Dan to go before Hazel and Callum as he ranked fifth in the popularity line up.
I also reckon the housemates get information about how they are being portrayed.

I don't like Hazel but she was right Charlie was being aggressive, she's very jealous of Hazel.

Hazel sexually abused Charlie.

Beat that.

Sorry but I don't agree. It was a drunken playfight which went wrong. Hazel was still smiling after and playing around so I think she may have made a bigger thing of it than she needed.
None of us knows how solid or not H and C's friendship is but I believe she mentioned getting to know Sophie better because they haven't mixed together much. I really don't think she would rather be friends with Sophie than Hazel... that's an huge leap to make!!

I blame BB. If they are going to introduce items like cucumbers into the house which could be used as a weapon then they should ensure the housemates well being by supplying safety goggles, hi-vis vests & steel toe capped boots.

They'll be sorry when Hazel leaves the house, walks down the street & is stopped by someone who asks 'excuse me madam, have you had an accident lately'? Remember - where there's blame there's a claim

Oh that's very true - though it will have nothing to do with cucumbers. Cyber abuse, though; that's another matter.

I never meant to sound so rude, i was just asking a question, of why it would be fair if she won. you explained it now.

yes poor Charlie needs help not surrounded by goading self obsessives with the victim being Hazel.

So, deliberately shoving a cucumber in someone's mouth isn't aggressive, but accidently poking someone in the eye is?

It was a silly play fight that went wrong, happens all the time with kids.

I also noticed there wasn't a method statement or risk assessment in sight!

Charlie is one sloppy drunk, she just can't take her booze, we've all had mates like that though haven't we - complete fun vacuum & always end up crying by midnight!

But Hazel "ABSOLUTELY in every way" lied that she had used that word.

Covering up what she said just like the Daley situation.