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Do you equate being up every week w/ having the toughest ride?
elfstar89
29-07-2013
Last night I felt that Callum was trying to back Dexter into a corner to say I've had it the hardest in here and bc Gina does think the pair of them have it didn't help matters. I can see where Gina is coming from that it just isn't the fact that you might go home every week, it's all the added stuff of feeling that others dislike you and the isolation. However, I agree with Dexter that being put up for eviction is just one aspect of being in BB and there are other things that can make your time in the house difficult. At the end of the day even though they are my faves if you're getting nominated you have no one to blame than yourself for giving them a reason to.

Now going on to what other things qualify as having a hard time in the house. Dexter didn't want to give names either way of who has and who's had easy which I thought was the right thing to do bc it would be a recipe to create arguments. I think one can argue that Hazel has had the hardest ride. I know Gina wouldn't like hearing that so may be that's why Dexter didn't want to go into details w/ examples. And yes just like giving people reasons to nominate you, a lot of what Hazel has been through in the house has been brought upon by her own doing, but that still doesn't mean it isn't difficult in there for her. She had the Daley situation and then the task last week, and the crowd's reaction for a couple of eviction nights. I think if we want to go into people not being able to handle the environment of BB and are lost souls then Charlie and Callum fit the bill. Then you have Sam who may have not been given a chance by others in the house and doesn't seem like a person to complain about his hearing which means that he's kept any issues bottle up.
elfstar89
29-07-2013
bump. really curious to hear what others think...
mickmercer
29-07-2013
The only other thing, apart from being constantly up for eviction, which can possibly constitute the hardest ride is to be sidelined in the house. Aisleyne BB7 had it, Rachel BB9 got it, and much as Dexter thinks he's having it, we all know Callum's having it worse. He spoke the other night about it feeling like an evacuation wherever he went, people moving away.
Annsyre
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by elfstar89:
“bump. really curious to hear what others think...”

Being up for eviction every week, especially in the early days when he was being totally isolated, must have been very difficult indeed. Being nominated every week then spending the whole week wondering if you will go is stressful. You only have to look at the twins' and Dan's reactions when they had only been up for eviction once to see that. Fortunately Gina was almost always up too and I think that because they shared the experience this helped to ease the strain.
Annsyre
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by mickmercer:
“The only other thing, apart from being constantly up for eviction, which can possibly constitute the hardest ride is to be sidelined in the house. Aisleyne BB7 had it, Rachel BB9 got it, and much as Dexter thinks he's having it, we all know Callum's having it worse. He spoke the other night about it feeling like an evacuation wherever he went, people moving away.”

That is very hurtful but surely Callum must realise why. After all he has been there for weeks and has enough experience in there to examine what might be the reason. Callum spends all of his time with Sam, perhaps people don't want to be with Sam. I wouldn't. On two live feeds running Sam was busy picking his nose and on another he was farting and laughing.
erin_p
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by mickmercer:
“The only other thing, apart from being constantly up for eviction, which can possibly constitute the hardest ride is to be sidelined in the house. Aisleyne BB7 had it, Rachel BB9 got it, and much as Dexter thinks he's having it, we all know Callum's having it worse. He spoke the other night about it feeling like an evacuation wherever he went, people moving away.”

Callum has not been sidelined in the house .He said that when he was in the treehouse the day after the ranking task, He was gutted about his position.
Dexter and Gina have had the toughest ride being up for eviction every week .When the twins were up and survived they said they had a new found respect for Dexter and Gina going through that every week.Hazel and Dan also made comment about how emotionally draining being up for eviction is.Sam who went through the process of eviction on Friday stated he went through all sorts of emotions and he was drained.
Dexter and Gina could do nothing to prevent the HMS nomming them ,it was pack mentality and Callum jumped on the bandwagon nomming them .It was only when we had the SH twist that Dexter and Gina got a week off.
This week we are back to normal noms and Dexter maybe not Gina will get their nomination again.Dan also stated had he been in the house this week he would have nommed Dexter.
TheManWhoLaughs
29-07-2013
Getting saved by the public repeatedly is a massive ego boost.

No-one in the house is being treated especially horribly, but Hazel and Callum are definitely much lower on the totem pole as they've had zero validation and plenty of proof that they aren't especially liked.
mickmercer
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“That is very hurtful but surely Callum must realise why. After all he has been there for weeks and has enough experience in there to examine what might be the reason. Callum spends all of his time with Sam, perhaps people don't want to be with Sam. I wouldn't. On two live feeds running Sam was busy picking his nose and on another he was farting and laughing.”

Not in the evening and not when glued to Charlie's arse. That boy gets around.
vald
29-07-2013
As Gina said, it was not just about being nominated, it was about waking up every day in a house where nobody likes you. She would see other people waking up with a smile on their face but for her there were days where she didn't even want to get out of bed. Callum has always had Sam there to talk to and Charlie for hugs and long conversations. He has never been completely isolated in the way that Gina and Dexter were.
Annsyre
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by vald:
“As Gina said, it was not just about being nominated, it was about waking up every day in a house where nobody likes you. She would see other people waking up with a smile on their face but for her there were days where she didn't even want to get out of bed. Callum has always had Sam there to talk to and Charlie for hugs and long conversations. He has never been completely isolated in the way that Gina and Dexter were.”

I agree with you.
Heavenly
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by vald:
“As Gina said, it was not just about being nominated, it was about waking up every day in a house where nobody likes you. She would see other people waking up with a smile on their face but for her there were days where she didn't even want to get out of bed.

Callum has always had Sam there to talk to and Charlie for hugs and long conversations. He has never been completely isolated in the way that Gina and Dexter were.”

Spot on.
white tigress
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Heavenly:
“Spot on.”

Ditto. Dex & Gina are VERY strong people to survive that AND still have the wherewithal to participate fully in the House.
amelie74
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by vald:
“As Gina said, it was not just about being nominated, it was about waking up every day in a house where nobody likes you. She would see other people waking up with a smile on their face but for her there were days where she didn't even want to get out of bed. Callum has always had Sam there to talk to and Charlie for hugs and long conversations. He has never been completely isolated in the way that Gina and Dexter were.”

True.

I think also that both Gina and Dexter, on the surface at least, dealt with their situation very well. Callum likes to play the martyr too much for my taste.
qwertyell
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by elfstar89:
“Last night I felt that Callum was trying to back Dexter into a corner to say I've had it the hardest in here and bc Gina does think the pair of them have it didn't help matters. I can see where Gina is coming from that it just isn't the fact that you might go home every week, it's all the added stuff of feeling that others dislike you and the isolation. However, I agree with Dexter that being put up for eviction is just one aspect of being in BB and there are other things that can make your time in the house difficult. At the end of the day even though they are my faves if you're getting nominated you have no one to blame than yourself for giving them a reason to.

Now going on to what other things qualify as having a hard time in the house. Dexter didn't want to give names either way of who has and who's had easy which I thought was the right thing to do bc it would be a recipe to create arguments. I think one can argue that Hazel has had the hardest ride. I know Gina wouldn't like hearing that so may be that's why Dexter didn't want to go into details w/ examples. And yes just like giving people reasons to nominate you, a lot of what Hazel has been through in the house has been brought upon by her own doing, but that still doesn't mean it isn't difficult in there for her. She had the Daley situation and then the task last week, and the crowd's reaction for a couple of eviction nights. I think if we want to go into people not being able to handle the environment of BB and are lost souls then Charlie and Callum fit the bill. Then you have Sam who may have not been given a chance by others in the house and doesn't seem like a person to complain about his hearing which means that he's kept any issues bottle up.”

I can well imagine that week 3 was pretty tough going, having just been absolutely eviscerated by his fellow housemates in face to face nominations where they didn't just go through the motions of picking Dexter and coming up with a bland reason but instead took the opportunity to tear chunks off him in front of the entire group.

When he said last night that some days it was hard to get out of bed, I could imagine the day after those TEN nominations being one of those days. Knowing that virtually everyone you've got to share three rooms with thinks you're not only the person they most want to evict, but thinks they can talk to you like you're piece of shit is probably pretty demoralising.

Has he had the toughest time? I'm not sure it really matters - that's the game. What is for certain, though, is that others have been given such an easy ride that it's a piss take.
maidmary
29-07-2013
I am full of admiration and respect for Dexter and Gina because I think a fair few of the other hms would have just upped and left if they had been under such constant fire. Dexter must have felt awful after those Fto F noms where hms were so cruel to him.

And it wasn't even just a case of being put up every week being accused of things that other hms were doing just as much and in several cases far more, but everything Dex said would be twisted and criticised. Poor bloke must have felt afraid to breathe at times.

And it must be very frustrating to see others being really nasty to and about each other in there only for them to get away with it come noms time when the pack mentality would just reassert itself yet again.

Must have been impossible for Dex to relax at all knowing that no matter how nice he was to people he was always going to be an outsider.,they jumped on the bandwagon set off by Sallie unfortunately. Just hope they all keep getting evicted over him - would serve them right lol
moonlily
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by maidmary:
“I am full of admiration and respect for Dexter and Gina because I think a fair few of the other hms would have just upped and left if they had been under such constant fire. Dexter must have felt awful after those Fto F noms where hms were so cruel to him.

And it wasn't even just a case of being put up every week being accused of things that other hms were doing just as much and in several cases far more, but everything Dex said would be twisted and criticised. Poor bloke must have felt afraid to breathe at times.

And it must be very frustrating to see others being really nasty to and about each other in there only for them to get away with it come noms time when the pack mentality would just reassert itself yet again.

Must have been impossible for Dex to relax at all knowing that no matter how nice he was to people he was always going to be an outsider.,they jumped on the bandwagon set off by Sallie unfortunately. Just hope they all keep getting evicted over him - would serve them right lol”

I'm still hoping he's getting a week off from being nominated
Dangermoose
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by maidmary:
“I am full of admiration and respect for Dexter and Gina because I think a fair few of the other hms would have just upped and left if they had been under such constant fire. Dexter must have felt awful after those Fto F noms where hms were so cruel to him.

And it wasn't even just a case of being put up every week being accused of things that other hms were doing just as much and in several cases far more, but everything Dex said would be twisted and criticised. Poor bloke must have felt afraid to breathe at times.

And it must be very frustrating to see others being really nasty to and about each other in there only for them to get away with it come noms time when the pack mentality would just reassert itself yet again.

Must have been impossible for Dex to relax at all knowing that no matter how nice he was to people he was always going to be an outsider.,they jumped on the bandwagon set off by Sallie unfortunately. Just hope they all keep getting evicted over him - would serve them right lol”

Perfectly put
Miriam_R
29-07-2013
Callum gets a rough ride and he's not up every week.
with Gina and Dext, particularly him, it must have not been nice at the start to be up so regularly, but since he's been saved every time, I think he prob doesn't fear the in-house noms as much as he used to now that he feels the public very much have his back. I know he got some boos the other day, but it wasn't on same level as say Hazel.
elfstar89
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by amelie74:
“True.

I think also that both Gina and Dexter, on the surface at least, dealt with their situation very well. Callum likes to play the martyr too much for my taste.”

I agree. I don't think Callum could have handled being in Dexter and Gina's place from the start. I remember everyone on here talking about how Dexter had the patience of a saint for not snapping at more people. Also, that key task was pretty horrible as well. People were just piling up on him. Face to face noms were also not very nice especially w/ the twins saying they were mad he wasn't out yet.
Flight815-23D
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by amelie74:
“True.

I think also that both Gina and Dexter, on the surface at least, dealt with their situation very well. Callum likes to play the martyr too much for my taste.”

And he does it about trivial things - yesterday doing the cleaning because he volunteered to do it, then spent the rest of the day lambasting everyone else in the house for not getting up early and helping him do the thing he volunteered to do (or for having the nerve to walk through the room while he was cleaning).
Sunnydays
29-07-2013
It can't feel pleasant to know that you are not particularly liked in the house, therefore most nominations......

If you haven't been nominated, then it must be strange to hear booing from the crowd, and wonder what you have done.....

I agree with a FM that to be sidelined and whispered about and not being included and having HMs walking away when you come into the room must be awful......

I don't think any of them can really say they enjoy the whole experience......
youngthing12
29-07-2013
I agree with everyone Dexter and Gina have had a rough time
being up every week except when in the safe house...
Hope he has not nominated Gina that would be bad for him.
I think Dexter is great television, a good laugh etc...
it would also do him good to win as he does have a low
self esteem of himself... Dexter to win
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