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The Main Reason I Want Dexter To Win....
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BasketCase9483
29-07-2013
When he realised he hadn't been evicted but had been saved by the public and was liked. The reaction on his face told a story about a man that just wanted to be liked.

Dexter has spent the entire show putting up with people who refuse to even contemplate liking him because it's not the cool thing to do in there.

Dexter will never be one of the cool kids, but he can win the show and realise that not everyone wants to reject him.

I think it would be the most satisfying winning moment that BB has ever had.
WhyHelloWorld
29-07-2013
I wouldn't mind him winning if Gina goes, but I disagree with what you're saying.

You say wants to be liked? Then why did he act like a **** for the first few weeks, then calmed down, became popular, then reverted back to the ways he was at first (which is good for me as I liked him better back then) but it's not going to work for him, people are thinking he is getting cocky and is "slimey" and facebook support for him is lacking now. Have to say, in defence of Dexter, I would get confident and probably change if I knew the crowd liked me. When he heard the boo's he didn't blame himself for them, he blamed Hazel. When his mum hinted (and the cheers for Gina) that he should stick with Gina, he seems to have ignored that.
Nigelk
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“I wouldn't mind him winning if Gina goes, but I disagree with what you're saying.

You say wants to be liked? Then why did he act like a **** for the first few weeks, then calmed down, became popular, then reverted back to the ways he was at first (which is good for me as I liked him better back then) but it's not going to work for him, people are thinking he is getting cocky and is "slimey" and facebook support for him is lacking now. Have to say, in defence of Dexter, I would get confident and probably change if I knew the crowd liked me. When he heard the boo's he didn't blame himself for them, he blamed Hazel. When his mum hinted (and the cheers for Gina) that he should stick with Gina, he seems to have ignored that.”


..because he came into the show with his "work" head on and it took a few weeks to wear off... he obviously has few friends on the outside being in the industry he is in were money talks but I really do sense he is trying to "find" himself in the house. He would be a worthy winner
BasketCase9483
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“I wouldn't mind him winning if Gina goes, but I disagree with what you're saying.

You say wants to be liked? Then why did he act like a **** for the first few weeks, then calmed down, became popular, then reverted back to the ways he was at first (which is good for me as I liked him better back then) but it's not going to work for him, people are thinking he is getting cocky and is "slimey" and facebook support for him is lacking now. Have to say, in defence of Dexter, I would get confident and probably change if I knew the crowd liked me. When he heard the boo's he didn't blame himself for them, he blamed Hazel. When his mum hinted (and the cheers for Gina) that he should stick with Gina, he seems to have ignored that.”

None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, and Dexter would be the first person to admit he's made some mistakes in the house.

However he was never THAT bad, he was simply playing up to the image, and the rest of the house used that image against him, which made him retreat into the said image even more, becoming what they wanted him too so they could abuse him.

It was typical school yard bullying tactics from the house.
carol1956
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“When he realised he hadn't been evicted but had been saved by the public and was liked. The reaction on his face told a story about a man that just wanted to be liked.

Dexter has spent the entire show putting up with people who refuse to even contemplate liking him because it's not the cool thing to do in there.

Dexter will never be one of the cool kids, but he can win the show and realise that not everyone wants to reject him.

I think it would be the most satisfying winning moment that BB has ever had.”

ABSOLUTE RUBBBISH - DEXTER DOES NOT DESERVE TO WIN - MANIPULATIVE, SLIMY, SNAKE
pwuz
29-07-2013
His work head has long gone and he's a smug know it all. He is right a bit over half of what he says though.
Nigelk
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by carol1956:
“ABSOLUTE RUBBBISH - DEXTER DOES NOT DESERVE TO WIN - MANIPULATIVE, SLIMY, SNAKE”

Apparently Hazel is the snake according to the online questionairre last week
xeo
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“I wouldn't mind him winning if Gina goes, but I disagree with what you're saying.

You say wants to be liked? Then why did he act like a **** for the first few weeks, then calmed down, became popular, then reverted back to the ways he was at first (which is good for me as I liked him better back then) but it's not going to work for him, people are thinking he is getting cocky and is "slimey" and facebook support for him is lacking now. Have to say, in defence of Dexter, I would get confident and probably change if I knew the crowd liked me. When he heard the boo's he didn't blame himself for them, he blamed Hazel. When his mum hinted (and the cheers for Gina) that he should stick with Gina, he seems to have ignored that.”

Not at all, he said he probably got the boos because of him making up with Hazel, not placing the blame on her at all. He also said the love triangle probably contributed to it and hence has realised he needs to step back from it all.

With the Gina bit, that's completely inaccurate. Since the letter (and indeed beforehand) they have been getting really close again and since the nominations two weeks ago he hasn't exactly 'betrayed' her at all. Just because he's spending time with other people too it doesn't mean he automatically isn't sticking by Gina. I've noticed he only ever talks with her mainly about important things like friendships in the house, he obviously trusts her the most.
WhyHelloWorld
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Nigelk:
“..because he came into the show with his "work" head on and it took a few weeks to wear off... he obviously has few friends on the outside being in the industry he is in were money talks but I really do sense he is trying to "find" himself in the house. He would be a worthy winner”

So why is her reverting back to the way he was then, and loosing support? I agree though, he would be a worthy winner!

Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, and Dexter would be the first person to admit he's made some mistakes in the house.

However he was never THAT bad, he was simply playing up to the image, and the rest of the house used that image against him, which made him retreat into the said image even more, becoming what they wanted him too so they could abuse him.

It was typical school yard bullying tactics from the house.”


So I ask, why is he reverting back to the way he was in the first few weeks?

The same could be said for the way the house treated Gina, the way Dexter treats Callum, the way Callum treats Dexter. It's not 'bullying tactics' at all. He gave them plenty of reason to dislike him - we all saw it. People wanted him out week 1.
BasketCase9483
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by carol1956:
“ABSOLUTE RUBBBISH - DEXTER DOES NOT DESERVE TO WIN - MANIPULATIVE, SLIMY, SNAKE”

You need to stop listening to Callum and actually watch the show, Dexter is none of those things. There's never been any evidence that he's manipulated anyone.

All it is is speculation and Bullying from the housemates.
WhyHelloWorld
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Not at all, he said he probably got the boos because of him making up with Hazel, not placing the blame on her at all. He also said the love triangle probably contributed to it and hence has realised he needs to step back from it all.

With the Gina bit, that's completely inaccurate. Since the letter (and indeed beforehand) they have been getting really close again and since the nominations two weeks ago he hasn't exactly 'betrayed' her at all. Just because he's spending time with other people too it doesn't mean he automatically isn't sticking by Gina. I've noticed he only ever talks with her mainly about important things like friendships in the house, he obviously trusts her the most.”

When Charlie spoke about Callum getting a good reception, and suggested that he is coming across better in the love triangle thing, and that people feel sorry for him Dexter completely dismissed this and said he only got cheers because of the strip tease and that he will be in trouble. When Charlie then suggested it could be why Dexter got boo's he again went on the defensive and said no because people would be feeling sorry for him too.

Not at one point did I say he wasn't sticking with Gina. It's just people make out he has this whole idea of the public perception and that he is right all the time and he has everything sussed. So much so that he can't see people want 'Ginxter' to keep going?

It just all seems a bit 'stupid' for someone that has apparently got the whole game sussed out.
amelie74
29-07-2013
I still like Dexter even though he can sound a bit pompous and annoys me sometimes. I'd be happy to see him win but I fear he may not make it to the final week.
Amnesia Haze
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“When he realised he hadn't been evicted but had been saved by the public and was liked. The reaction on his face told a story about a man that just wanted to be liked.

Dexter has spent the entire show putting up with people who refuse to even contemplate liking him because it's not the cool thing to do in there.

Dexter will never be one of the cool kids, but he can win the show and realise that not everyone wants to reject him.

I think it would be the most satisfying winning moment that BB has ever had.”

You actually believe his "I'm on a journey" story. He has had this planned from the beginning.

He's in it for the money and nothing else. He's a user that's why he had no friends. No one could ever trust him. He'd flush them down the toilet for his name in the paper.
BasketCase9483
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“So why is her reverting back to the way he was then, and loosing support? I agree though, he would be a worthy winner!




So I ask, why is he reverting back to the way he was in the first few weeks?
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He hasn't reverted back to anything. He's started losing fans recently in spite of being nicer to everyone than he's ever been (beside Callum obviously) and there's a simple reason for that...

There's too many viewers who put too much weight in their own favourite housemates opinions on Dexter, opinions which are built on unfounded information and speculation about his attempts at manipulation that have never actually occurred.

They all made stuff up abut him and jumped on the band wagon of hate, and he's an easy target because he doesn't rise to their nastiness and fight back, he just sits and listens to them rip him apart, which can't be good for his confidence, but he avoids conflict, that's just him.
avon942
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Amnesia Haze:
“You actually believe his "I'm on a journey" story. He has had this planned from the beginning.

He's in it for the money and nothing else. He's a user that's why he had no friends. No one could ever trust him. He'd flush them down the toilet for his name in the paper.”

Now Dexter is being accused of flushing someone down the toilet?

He has friends so try again.
WhyHelloWorld
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“He hasn't reverted back to anything. He's started losing fans recently sped spite being nicer to everyone than he's ever been (beside Callum obviously) and there's a simple reason for that...

There's too many viewers who put too much weight in their own favourite housemates opinions on Dexter, opinions which are built on unfounded information and speculation about his attempts at manipulation that have never actually occurred.

They all made stuff up abut him and jumped on the band wagon of hate, and he's an easy target because he doesn't rise to their nastiness and fight back, he just sits and listens to them rip him apart, which can't be good for his confidence, but he avoids conflict, that's just him.”

He's started to lose fans (this is the way I see, of course I can't speak for anyone) because he is now treating Callum the way people were treating Dexter in week 1, and Dexter didn't like it. Yet he appears to think it's ok to treat Callum like that.

"They all made stuff up about him" when? What did they make up? How do you have 24/7 live feed to see if it's made up or not, because I would love live feed!
avon942
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“He hasn't reverted back to anything. He's started losing fans recently in spite of being nicer to everyone than he's ever been (beside Callum obviously) and there's a simple reason for that...

There's too many viewers who put too much weight in their own favourite housemates opinions on Dexter, opinions which are built on unfounded information and speculation about his attempts at manipulation that have never actually occurred.

They all made stuff up abut him and jumped on the band wagon of hate, and he's an easy target because he doesn't rise to their nastiness and fight back, he just sits and listens to them rip him apart, which can't be good for his confidence, but he avoids conflict, that's just him.”

For the record I think your absolutely right here.
Nigelk
29-07-2013
He's in it for the money?
He doesn't NEED the money!
BasketCase9483
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“He's started to lose fans (this is the way I see, of course I can't speak for anyone) because he is now treating Callum the way people were treating Dexter in week 1, and Dexter didn't like it. Yet he appears to think it's ok to treat Callum like that.

"They all made stuff up about him" when? What did they make up? How do you have 24/7 live feed to see if it's made up or not, because I would love live feed!”

Pretty sure we would have seen this devious gameplan of his at some point if he had one...

But put it this way then. We have never been shown that he does the things they say he does, and people who have left the house have admitted that they never saw him do those things. So chances are he hasn't.
xeo
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“When Charlie spoke about Callum getting a good reception, and suggested that he is coming across better in the love triangle thing, and that people feel sorry for him Dexter completely dismissed this and said he only got cheers because of the strip tease and that he will be in trouble. When Charlie then suggested it could be why Dexter got boo's he again went on the defensive and said no because people would be feeling sorry for him too.

Not at one point did I say he wasn't sticking with Gina. It's just people make out he has this whole idea of the public perception and that he is right all the time and he has everything sussed. So much so that he can't see people want 'Ginxter' to keep going?

It just all seems a bit 'stupid' for someone that has apparently got the whole game sussed out.”

First of all, he didn't say that people feel sorry for him. He obviously doesn't think that, hence the boos. The way I saw it was he was just giving scenarios of what could be happening on the outside. Of course none of them actually know the big details so anything they say about how they are being perceived is just speculation and should be treated as such.

Secondly, you implied it by saying he ignored his mum when she told him to stick with Gina. He didn't ignore her because he is sticking with Gina. I'm not sure what you expect from him, he spends a lot of time with Gina and they have a lot of good chats. Are you saying that unless they're together side by side 24/7 'Ginxter' can't live on?
WhyHelloWorld
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“Pretty sure we would have seen this devious gameplan of his at some point if he had one...

But put it this way then. We have never been shown that he does the things they say he does, and people who have left the house have admitted that they never saw him do those things. So chances are he hasn't.”

People have said he is a snake in the house. He got caught out with Gina. People say he isn't trustworthy. That's, again, true to extent. He is trustworthy with things Gina tells him. He was sneaky which all the housemates - bar Gina - agreed with.

We have seen his gameplan though....that's why some fools on facebook make out he is the devil!
Turbulence
29-07-2013
I completely agree. People seem to want to find a reason to dislike Dexter, both inside the house and outside. With every situation that arises, there is no action he can carry out or thing he can say without people finding an excuse to paint it in a bad light. With this whole Gina thing, people seem to forget that he was closer friends with Daley before he went in the SH than he was with Gina. So he couldn't exactly just ignore him and Hazel or suddenly start being cold towards them, because of what he watched on the LF. It is difficult when you didn't witness something, get told something happened, and then somebody who you got to know better beforehand tells you the exact opposite. Yes he clearly sided with the wrong person, but it can't have been easy to just 'know' that like we did. Sure he is not the most socially adept housemate, and does some questionable things (like all of this year's housemates), but he is certainly by a lunar mile the most entertaining and fully deserves the win.
WhyHelloWorld
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by xeo:
“First of all, he didn't say that people feel sorry for him. He obviously doesn't think that, hence the boos. The way I saw it was he was just giving scenarios of what could be happening on the outside. Of course none of them actually know the big details so anything they say about how they are being perceived is just speculation and should be treated as such.

Secondly, you implied it by saying he ignored his mum when she told him to stick with Gina. He didn't ignore her because he is sticking with Gina. I'm not sure what you expect from him, he spends a lot of time with Gina and they have a lot of good chats. Are you saying that unless they're together side by side 24/7 'Ginxter' can't live on?”

He did say people would feel sorry for him. I can't remember if it was on LF or the HL though, so can't help you find it. Think it may have been LF!

He nominated Gina, he has bitched about Gina and he seems more with Hazel and Charlie than anyone else now - of course, editing probably plays a huge part in that.
avon942
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by Turbulence:
“I completely agree. People seem to want to find a reason to dislike Dexter, both inside the house and outside. With every situation that arises, there is no action he can carry out or thing he can say without people finding an excuse to paint it in a bad light. With this whole Gina thing, people seem to forget that he was closer friends with Daley before he went in the SH than he was with Gina. So he couldn't exactly just ignore him and Hazel or suddenly start being cold towards them, because of what he watched on the LF. It is difficult when you didn't witness something, get told something happened, and then somebody who you got to know better beforehand tells you the exact opposite. Yes he clearly sided with the wrong person, but it can't have been easy to just 'know' that like we did. Sure he is not the most socially adept housemate, and does some questionable things (like all of this year's housemates), but he is certainly by a lunar mile the most entertaining and fully deserves the win. ”

Well said
flowerpowa
29-07-2013
Originally Posted by BasketCase9483:
“When he realised he hadn't been evicted but had been saved by the public and was liked. The reaction on his face told a story about a man that just wanted to be liked.

Dexter has spent the entire show putting up with people who refuse to even contemplate liking him because it's not the cool thing to do in there.

Dexter will never be one of the cool kids, but he can win the show and realise that not everyone wants to reject him.

I think it would be the most satisfying winning moment that BB has ever had.”

Blimey, you've really fallen for his sob story.
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