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Anyone feel sorry for Paul Kershaw?
Have to say I have liked this plot despite the characters personality transplants.
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It's slightly amusing how he keeps putting his foot in it. EVERY TIME.
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M thoughts exactly, from hero to zero, the residents of Corrie are so fickle against one another.
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I don't like this storyline, Because I hate the racist card being overly used in todays society as it is, And to see it in a soap makes it feel real to me even though its just a story.
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I don't like this storyline, Because I hate the racist card being overly used in todays society as it is, And to see it in a soap makes it feel real to me even though its just a story.
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Over used?
It is used on situations when it has no reason to be used, I put it down to liberals. |
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give us an example dude?
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I don't like this storyline, Because I hate the racist card being overly used in todays society as it is, And to see it in a soap makes it feel real to me even though its just a story.
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i was thinking that?
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I hope this is a bit of trolling.
The racist card is used FAR to much in todays society, For instance, When people say we don't want immigrants to come here because we have enough people always say ohhh that's racist, When it is clearly not. Not forgetting immigrants can be white Caucasians aswell. And if this type of thing happened in a real pub, I would not apologise as the comment wasn't directed at anyone, But someone made it their point to take it personally. |
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Hell no, I am not a troll.
The racist card is used FAR to much in todays society, For instance, When people say we don't want immigrants to come here because we have enough people always say ohhh that's racist, When it is clearly not. Not forgetting immigrants can be white Caucasians aswell. And if this type of thing happened in a real pub, I would not apologise as the comment wasn't directed at anyone, But someone made it their point to take it personally. |
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So if you the N word to yourself it would be ok?
The N word wasn't used, I am not making any reference to the N word, So why do you need to bring it into a subject where it has no place. Your the type of person I am talking about, using words that have no relevance. Why would I go and call someone who is coloured the N word anyway, that would clearly be racist. Your trying to add more things into a thread to make out I am in the wrong. |
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The N word wasn't used, I am not making any reference to the N word, So why do you need to bring it into a subject where it has no place.
Your the type of person I am talking about, using words that have no relevance. Why would I go and call someone who is coloured the N word anyway, that would clearly be racist. Your trying to add more things into a thread to make out I am in the wrong. |
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But you said his remark was ok because it wasn't directly at anyone, so if he said the N word indirectly would it be excusable?
Your being to liberalised now and trying to compare things that are completely different, Which does my head in. |
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But why would you use the N word, It has no relevance in everyday phrases, "play the white man" is a phrase people can use in everyday situations to describe something,
Your being to liberalised now and trying to compare things that are completely different, Which does my head in. |
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So anyone is allowed to use this phrase in everyday conversation.
And yes "play the white man" can be used in everyday situations. It isn't a derogatory phrase, It isn't racist, I don't see why it cant be used. |
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Yea, We live in a democracy, We have freedom of speech, I can use any word I want in a situation where I feel it can be used.
And yes "play the white man" can be used in everyday situations. It isn't a derogatory phrase, It isn't racist, I don't see why it cant be used. Why do you think that phrase is acceptable? |
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Including the N word
Why do you think that phrase is acceptable? Would it be wrong for me to use the word Whitey in a public place, Your deluded trying to compare N word to play the white man, |
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So because I don't agree with you I an deluded liberal that isn't relevant and "does you head in" because I happen to think that some people would find that phrase unacceptable even if you don't? Nice.
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No I don't. I did, but I don't. Who in their right mind goes and hits the guy they believe has reported them to their boss for racism? Yes, because that's really going to help!
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So because I don't agree with you I an deluded liberal that isn't relevant and "does you head in" because I happen to think that some people would find that phrase unacceptable even if you don't? Nice.
So all this rubbish about comparing a racist, derogatory term with a word that maybe unacceptable was just you trying to make me look bad. and yes you are a liberal, No wonder the country is fallen to bits with people like you in power. |
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Yes, The racist card is used far to much now.
It is used on situations when it has no reason to be used, I put it down to liberals. |
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Guys - I think all these discussions/arguments are what Stuart Blackburn intended.
![]() If Paul had made a hardline racial slur, there wouldn't be this mass of "I don't see what the fuss is about" or "he's deffo a racist" or "who cares what he said?" - everyone would be up in arms against him, both the characters and the viewers. But as it happens, he just casually used an ambiguous archaic term without thinking, something his dad used to say. The story could've been thought out much better than this, but at least it's done it's job - to get you all talking about it.
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Guys - I think all these discussions/arguments are what Stuart Blackburn intended.
![]() If Paul had made a hardline racial slur, there wouldn't be this mass of "I don't see what the fuss is about" or "he's deffo a racist" or "who cares what he said?" - everyone would be up in arms against him, both the characters and the viewers. But as it happens, he just casually used an ambiguous archaic term without thinking, something his dad used to say. The story could've been thought out much better than this, but at least it's done it's job - to get you all talking about it. ![]() No one should be trying to make a case for the phrase being OK to be used in modern day society and not having negative and harmful racist connotations and that's not the debate that Coronation Street are attempting to provoke. |
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I get what you're trying to say but the point of the story is that everyone knows the phrase is wrong, outdated and offensive but that there was no malice behind it and the difference between institutionalised racism and active racism and how using an outdated term doesn't automatically make you a racist.
No one should be trying to make a case for the phrase being OK to be used in modern day society and not having negative and harmful racist connotations and that's not the debate that Coronation Street are attempting to provoke. |
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