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Old 31-07-2013, 16:04
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I've seen posts floating around regarding the rumoured format change, but I don't think I've seen a solid thread explaining it in detail. If there's already an existent thread similar to this, then I apologise.

The X Factor USA have allegedly adopted an entirely new bootcamp format. The format will see each judge allocated with their own category after the initial audition process. The allocation of a category will now no longer take place at the end of bootcamp. With the new format, each judge will hold their own bootcamp session for their category. For example, Simon and his category will have a session together, without the contestants from other categories present. This format will really enhance the mentoring aspect of the show, which is no doubt inspired by the strong focus on mentoring throughout The Voice. I can see why Simon wants to do this, because he was the one to come up with the idea of judges that mentor, not The Voice.

From my interpretation of the format, the contestants of each category will choose what they want to focus on. Contestants will be able to work on either songwriting, dancing or playing an instrument. Each judge will have two or three helpers with them. I believe that the judges will each be joined by a choreographer and a songwriter.

The categories have also been overhauled. The contestants will now no longer be categorised by age or gender. This season, each judge will have contestants from the former categories. All categories will consist of:

- Overs
- Groups
- Boys
- Girls

This hasn't been officially confirmed by Simon, X Factor or Fox. I've seen this format all over the internet, on news websites and social media sites. I'm not saying that this is going to happen, nor am I claiming to know more than any of you do haha, just putting forward what I've heard. It does seem quite likely because Simon did say that the middle section of the show has been completely changed, but he refused to reveal the changes as he feared other shows could pick it up.

I love this idea, it sounds fantastic. However, the change in format does make me question the point of Judges Homes. Judges Homes would just seem like a toned down repeat of bootcamp, which to me sounds pointless. Plus, bootcamp is obviously bound to last longer if each judge holds their own session, meaning the show will take longer to progress to the lives. This would be the perfect format if they scrapped Judges Homes.

While I don't think Judges Homes would be necessary with the new bootcamp, it appears that Simon still sees it's importance. Judges Homes will remain the exact same, but each judge will supposedly be joined by two helpers. From what I've heard, one helper will be a recording artist, while the other will be a record label worker taken from either Epic, Syco or Sony records. There are rumours that LA Reid is to join Simon at judges homes. Seems feasible? At judges homes, each judge will whittle down their category to (rumoured) four contestants. Final categories to progress to the Live Shows will consist of:

- One Over
- One Group
- One Girl
- One Boy

It will be interesting to see how Demi manages to work with someone far beyond her in terms of age.

Thoughts on this potential format?
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Old 31-07-2013, 16:14
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The categories being assigned before Bootcamp was the original UK format anyway so the JH stage does work in that way.. It will take more than revealing the category mentors at the beginning rather than the end of Bootcamp to get figures up
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Old 31-07-2013, 16:19
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The categories being assigned before Bootcamp was the original UK format anyway so the JH stage does work in that way.. It will take more than revealing the category mentors at the beginning rather than the end of Bootcamp to get figures up
The bootcamp on last season has been scrapped? I can't see what more they can do. It may not be the best format change in the world, but at least Simon has actually changed it and not just tweaked it. Last year's bootcamp was a copy of The Voice battle round, all the contestants did was sing together. This bootcamp is much better, and very different to what any other show has.
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Old 31-07-2013, 16:19
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Thanks for posting this over here

Well, I like the sound of the 'new' bootcamp - though it seems quite similar to what they did in series 1, here in the UK, which I always thought worked better. I'm pretty sure each judge had a 'team' of helpers, who followed them and their acts on through to the end.... But, since the introduction of a fourth judge, the middle stages have been as they appear today. I think this returning to a similar format as previously is a great idea, Bootcamp was becoming just a repeat of the auditions.

However, I'm not so keen on each judge mentoring acts from each category: Firstly, what would be the point in categories if it's all mixed - they may as well pick their teams, like on The Voice. Secondly, The X Factor having categories is what distinguished it from other talent shows, and all the buzz surrounding which judge will get what category is always fun: all this will be taken away... Each judge may be better at mentoring a different category, which is left for the producers to decide, for example, the original reason Louis Walsh probably got the groups first time round was due to his expertise with them.

In my view, it simply wouldn't be The X Factor without separate categories - how would you decide which judge gets which from each, they certainly can't (bias) and I doubt the producers would
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Old 31-07-2013, 16:32
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Thanks for posting this over here

Well, I like the sound of the 'new' bootcamp - though it seems quite similar to what they did in series 1, here in the UK, which I always thought worked better. I'm pretty sure each judge had a 'team' of helpers, who followed them and their acts on through to the end.... But, since the introduction of a fourth judge, the middle stages have been as they appear today. I think this returning to a similar format as previously is a great idea, Bootcamp was becoming just a repeat of the auditions.

However, I'm not so keen on each judge mentoring acts from each category: Firstly, what would be the point in categories if it's all mixed - they may as well pick their teams, like on The Voice. Secondly, The X Factor having categories is what distinguished it from other talent shows, and all the buzz surrounding which judge will get what category is always fun: all this will be taken away... Each judge may be better at mentoring a different category, which is left for the producers to decide, for example, the original reason Louis Walsh probably got the groups first time round was due to his expertise with them.

In my view, it simply wouldn't be The X Factor without separate categories - how would you decide which judge gets which from each, they certainly can't (bias) and I doubt the producers would
It's not a problem, writing it all out in black and white made it all sound a lot more straight forward haha

You've made some good points here actually. I agree with what you're saying regarding the decrease in hype if the categories consist of different genders/ages. Like you said, it's always exciting to see what judge gets what category, but obviously with this format, the excitement won't be there.

Another aspect of this format that I really dislike is the amount of guests. I thought it was the judges role to mentor the contestants, but instead they're bringing an entire entourage with them to do their work. What's the point of having the judges mentor? Throughout the competition, each judge will have maybe up to five guests? That's 20 guests. With that huge amount, I doubt any of them will be big names because the budget allocated to booking guests, I would imagine, would be quite low considering the dire ratings last year.
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Old 31-07-2013, 16:45
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It seems to have developed into more how a record label operates. There is the main manager ( the judge) and then their assistants. A new artist always needs as much help as possible, i personally think it is good to have help on the show. It sets X Factor apart from the other shows.

So how many from each group will each judge get at judges houses ?
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Old 31-07-2013, 16:47
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It seems to have developed into more how a record label operates. There is the main manager ( the judge) and then their assistants. A new artist always needs as much help as possible, i personally think it is good to have help on the show. It sets X Factor apart from the other shows.

So how many from each group will each judge get at judges houses ?
No word on the Judges Homes amount, but I would predict 7/8 so that the categories will be halved before live shows. Halving the categories will make Judges Homes more exciting.
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Old 31-07-2013, 18:13
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Basically a series 1-3 UK format
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Old 31-07-2013, 19:06
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Is this definitely true? Sounds like the bullplop amychick94 was spouting
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Old 31-07-2013, 19:07
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It's not really the "new bootcamp format explained", it's just an explanation of a rumour started by that Amy girl on Twitter!
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Old 31-07-2013, 19:30
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It's not really the "new bootcamp format explained", it's just an explanation of a rumour started by that Amy girl on Twitter!
Well as I said, I know nothing more than any of you do. I have no idea if this is legit or not... but the thread does exactly what it says, explains a potential new format?
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Old 31-07-2013, 19:46
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I actually think most of what amy is saying is true but we'll have to wait and see
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Old 31-07-2013, 20:06
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this was posted on another forum by Violet_S:

"- Jodi James and Panda are some of demi's contestants. each judge has 32 acts at first and will cut that down to 16. The top 16 will perform on the final day of bootcamp and 8 will advance to the judges homes. Producers will pick 2 boys, 2 girls, 2 groups and 2 overs to advance to the judges homes from each top 16.- The very final performance of bootcamp will be recorded and broadcast to the X factor UK judges. They will give their feedback. Also the Uk X Factor's final performance at bootcamp will be broadcast to the US judges.- There are 2 bootcamps happening this week. Therefore 2 judges are in LA! Both at different locations. Kelly and Demi probably since Panda tweeted asking demi's fans for support.- These are some of Demi's contestants:*https://t.co/OWPUpXxfBT- Kelly has got Girlgroup KRUSH and judges favourite Mariah YJ on her team- It is believed Frank Gaston Jr has took a real creative lead with Kelly Rowland in the bootcamp Process.- The main themes of Bootcamp are: Vocal Harmonising - Creative Dance - Songwriting/Production - Final performance in front of entire team- The Song Writing and Production will be done in pairs of FOUR! They will be given a beat and given key words to include in the song.- In the final performance they MUST either - Perform an original - Perform with an Instrument or create a dance or cinematic piece with song (cinematic piece can involve a dance or story telling)- The contestants will be reviewed by the entire team from the very second they enter the bootcamp location. Cuts will be made in first 3 rounds but NOT in final round.- The Final performance will be recorded and reviewed by All FOUR JUDGES and X Factor UK Judges at a secret location undisclosed to all.- Also all the contestants at bootcamp have been given a video app/recorder where they will record video diaries of their bootcamp experience. They must record footage everyday and explain what they have learned and how they are feeling. Which will be included in the show."
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Old 31-07-2013, 20:47
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Weird how similar the wording of that is to the wording of Amychick's tweets.

Guys, I know you want to believe this all but Amychick did the exact same thing last year, reporting on all these individuals on XF UK's bootcamp performances even though said people hadn't even auditioned for the show.
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Old 31-07-2013, 21:06
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I think panda really is on demis team as she tweeted saying she needed lovatics and her fans more than ever
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Old 31-07-2013, 21:23
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I'm not saying the whole thing is false but I doubt the bootcamp format is that complex
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Old 31-07-2013, 21:26
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I'm sure this is how the Dutch X Factor worked this year?
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Old 31-07-2013, 23:50
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I think panda really is on demis team as she tweeted saying she needed lovatics and her fans more than ever
Or Demi could possibly have the overs
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:19
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I don't like the idea of having one from each category :/ I really hope this bit isn't true and they just get a category each
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:22
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I prefer them getting a category each because we know how much Demi screws up a girl (cough Jennel Garcia/CeCe) or Simon screws a group (to a lesser extent 5H)

Kelly would do wonders for KRUSH
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:04
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Why would the UK X Factor judges comment on acts in the US series, and vise versa? Doesn't seem very likely to me.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:42
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panda ross was cut and shes really pissed at simon, twitter .. @RealPandaRoss
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:51
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panda ross was cut and shes really pissed at simon, twitter .. @RealPandaRoss
I loved panda last year and I've been watching her YouTube videos she is looking great
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:23
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she praiswd jeffrey adam gutt a lot though so as much as im mad about her not getting through lets hope he goes all the way cause he was even a higger mistake last season, hes awesome
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:48
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Jeffery Gutt could wn but another WGWG.. Yay..
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