But the BBC would be buying the games from BT not UEFA

Still has to comply with the UEFA mandates of sponsorship etc.
And BT would need permission from UEFA to sub-licence the games to the BBC
AND, does the BBC have the money!?

This may have already been mentioned in the thread, but I watched the Villa-West brom match last night, and lost count of the number of times BT showed multiple replays, player/coach reaction shots, or something other than the live action while play was going on. A couple of times one could hear the crowd in the background getting excited at some development in play, but viewers had no idea what it was, because BT were showing something else. It's as though the director had never been to a football match before, and thought the TV audience would be more interested in whatever faces Tim Sherwood was pulling, or had been pulling a few moments earlier, as opposed to the actual match they had tuned in for. Other channels do the same on occasion, but BT seem to be about as bad as anyone. Truly bizarre.

The penalty last night -
BT BOX onscreen showing Sherwood covering alot of the area and even took off screen a graphic showing where the last penalties went FOR the BT BOX after the graphic was onscreen for less than half a second.
I was a massive champion of BT football but its like they're going deliberately backwards after reading what is pissing off the viewer.
Im actually dreading what the UCL is going to look like!
And if UEFA are watching BT's PL coverage, im willing to bet they are too!!

BT somehow managed to advertise Bradford v Chelsea in the FA Cup for tomorrow night at 8pm during tonights Newcastle v Man Utd match. A game that took place 5 weeks ago.

To be fair, they were advertising that they were showing highlights of the game again because of demand and also to blow their own horns at showing the Bradford FA Cup tie this weekend free on a Sky box and BTSPORT.com

Got the game on mute to avoid Owen's commentary so didn't get the context.

LOL no worries matey.
He is his usual appalling self, so missing nothing.

Do BT Sport have they're own cameras and cameramen for football or do they take what they're given?

For the Premier League, its provided by a production company called Sunset + Vine who produce to coverage FOR BT.
They're going to produce their own coverage for the UCL when they their rights kick in next season.
Sunset + Vine also does The FA Cup coverage for BT along with the UEL and Scottish Football plus produces the European Football Show too
http://www.sunsetvine.co.uk/work/football.html

I think their match coverage is a bit better than the usual fare from BBC or Sky. They must use a few extra cameras or something.

UEFA has very strict rules about how its games are covered. So there won't be any use of the BT Box during Champions League games.

and Virgin Media Ch-555 BTSP1 FREE its called

It's rare that I like UEFA but that's great! Hate that box

I know UEFA are very strict on what can and cannot be used and where things can and cannot be placed on screen, but i just know BT will try something gimmicky like they have OCD and cannot help themselves.
But yes, for once, i like that UEFA are such control freaks LOL
It will keep the nonsense to a minimum

Was there really that much demand to show the match again?! It happened over a month ago and has been covered by plenty of media outlets and I'm sure the highlights are on FA Website too!

I can understand showing it the weekend before a big cup weekend but the way they promoted it was very strange! Can't remember the last time I saw highlights of a (old) match promoted so heavily during a live game?

I think its BT being BT and trying to be 'different' while jumping on the Bradford bandwagon at the same time.
The fact they have the game this weekend live and free is a big sign they're going for the bandwagon drivers seat.

Just going back to the 2016-19 PL rights, I had a look at the ratings BT have got for their PL and FA Cup games this season to see whether the 12:45 kick offs are holding them back in terms of getting audiences close to their potential. It was very interesting to see the kind of ratings BT got for Sat 17:30, Sun 16:00 and midweek games for what at times looked like relatively mediocre games. In comparison, games like Liverpool v Everton and Tottenham v Arsenal were massively hampered by the 12:45 kick offs.

From the ratings for this season it's safe to assume that had some of their better looking PL games been available at 17:30 that they'd have got far better ratings, and maybe upwards of a million on several occasions. Also, for the money involved the FA Cup has been a great catch for BT in terms of ratings. The opportunity for them to show games at 17:30 Sat and 16:00 Sun has allowed them to realise what their potential audience could be if they had better timeslots. Hence, the deal from 2016 will be a vast improvement for them IMO.

2014-15 Top Rated PL and FA Cup games on BT (up to w/e Feb 22) in 000
1,255 - Jan 1 - 17:30 - PL - Tottenham v Chelsea
1,018 - Feb 10 - 20:00 - PL - Liverpool v Tottenham
940 - Nov 8 - 12:45 - PL - Liverpool v Chelsea
926 - Jan 4 - 15:30 - FAC3 - Yeovil v Man United
886 - Feb 14 - 17:30 - FAC5 - C Palace v Liverpool
834 - Dec 26 - 15:00 - PL - Man United v Newcastle
818 - Aug 16 - 12:45 - PL Man United v Swansea
788 - Feb 4 - 20:00 - FAC4 Rep - Bolton v Liverpool
780 - Dec 28 - 12:00 - PL - Tottenham v Man United
775 - Feb 7 - 12:45 - PL - Tottenham v Arsenal
742 - Dec 26 - 17:30 - PL - Arsenal v QPR
715 - Aug 30 - 12:45 - PL - Burnley v Man United
706 - Feb 15 - 16:00 - FAC5 - Arsenal v Middlesbrough
694 - Jan 24 - 17:30 - FAC4 - Liverpool v Bolton
683 - Jan 10 - 12:45 - PL - Sunderland v Liverpool
678 - Jan 25 - 16:00 - FAC4 - Brighton v Arsenal
678 - Jan 1 - 15:00 - PL - Man City v Sunderland
669 - Sep 27 - 12:45 - PL - Liverpool v Everton
666 - Sep 13 - 12:45 - PL - Arsenal v Man City
653 - Nov 1 - 12:45 - PL - Newcastle v Liverpool

has anyone got any figures for BT's cup games last weekend?

Telegraph reporting that Premiership Rugby Union is to say on BT until 2021, estimated to be worth around 152million.

They say 'far in excess,' but this depends on whether current rights deal is European and premiership v premiership or premiership v premiership.

A large part of £152m was on Euro games. If bt have paid over £152m as inferred then significant increase (as rights premiership only)

If premiership moves from 12 to 14 teams then bigger deal required for clubs to get the same.

I think article is unclear - I think all we can infer is they are paying much more for the Premiership than before - I don't think we can actually be sure they are necessarily paying more than £152m.

Current deal was reported to be:

Premiership - £88m (4 @ £22m)
Europe - £84m (3 @ £21.33m) (NB. Original - pre new competition)

So to pay over £152m for Premiership only would be an increase of at least 73% - but I don't think that is necessarily the case - wording of article is potentially misleading - all it's really saying is BT is paying a significant increase - but the article doesn't make clear the base figure is only £88m.

Would premiership rugby have approached SKY over new rights? Or give BT exclusive deal

1 FA Cup Sun 15.15 860

2 Premier League Wed 756

3 Premier League Tue 444

4 FA Cup Sat 12.00 389

Very good figures again for their Sun game but what awful figures for their Free to Air or Bradford v Reading.....and people wondered why BBC didn't choose this game.

Chelsea v Everton did pretty well aswell.

Announced: a tie-up between BT Sport and BBC Two for the Clare Balding Show.