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BT Sports Channel (Part 2)
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mlt11
29-08-2015
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“Spot on. Each market is treated differently by UEFA. What happens in one is not a guarantee it would be necessarily required in another.

Sky simulcasted a lot of games on Sky1 just before losing the contract; that alone suggests that there was something in their dealings with UEFA that made them feel this was a step that would help their bid.”

It's also worth remembering that these would have been very tense negotiations - with Sky supposedly trying to re-enter the bidding - we have no idea what BT may have offered or felt they had to offer to get over the line - even if UEFA didn't explicitly demand it (and we don't know that - they may have done) then BT may well have felt they needed to offer it anyway to give them the maximum chance of closing the deal there and then.
Ian Cleverly
29-08-2015
Guess what. The Wimbledon Crazy Gang documentary will be shown on BT Showcase on BH Monday

Also, all of the football graphics have gone from the channel in readiness for the AMC Walking Dead simulcast with the AMC/BT Channel.
mogzyboy
29-08-2015
I think this sums up how some of us are beginning to feel with regard to all this:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-rights-bt-sky
TomM44
30-08-2015
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“Nobody with [only] a Skybox and dish were denied the game. No matter how many times people claim they were that point will not change. Just because it was available for free on other platforms doesn't mean you were denied it. You had the option to make the necessary arrangements to see the game.

And, as discussed, the likelihood of the game being available FTA on satellite was virtually non-existent: BT Sport broadcast in Ireland where there is a resident rightsholder for Wednesday nights. This might also explain why it wasn't even made available on a FTV basis.”

I am not going to spend money putting an aerial on a 20ft pole to watch Freeview and I cannot afford an extra subscription to BT.

How come ITV were happy for their signal to be broadcast on satellite?
sat-ire
30-08-2015
Originally Posted by TomM44:
“I am not going to spend money putting an aerial on a 20ft pole to watch Freeview and I cannot afford an extra subscription to BT.

How come ITV were happy for their signal to be broadcast on satellite?”

Point 1 - so what's your complaint exactly? The game was only available via subscription on the Sky platform.

Point 2 - don't see your point there either. There are so many variables with regards to satellite rights that it is impossible to say why Wednesday's game was not made available for free - in the same way as it is impossible to say why RTÉ2's broadcast wasn't available on Saorsat for the first time in years.

Comparing ITV's situation with that of BT Sport doesn't really make sense.

In its most simplistic form ITV were sold the rights as a FTA broadcaster, BT Sport were not. Same apples to ZDF in Germany (although that situation is also slightly different as the ZDF game is also available on subscription via Sky Sport).

Of course, now that BT Sport are on a much narrower beam it will be interesting to see what they do with their next free game and whether it was an objection from the Irish rightsholder that affected the situation.
rj414i
30-08-2015
[quote=TomM44;79425963]I am not going to spend money putting an aerial on a 20ft pole to watch Freeview and I cannot afford an extra subscription to BT.

You could cancel sky, spend £200ish (one off payment) on a roof aerial and sub to BT at £19.99 and be now worse off. Or get BT broadband and tv and watch for nowt.

It's all to do with choice, one you perhaps you don't want to take.
Andrew
31-08-2015
I've been using Chromecast to watch BT Sport on the tv from my iPad ever since they became available in the UK. The picture quality on the iPad itself is as good, if not better, than it has ever been. However, there has been a noticeable decline in picture quality on the tv when watching live action. The players are blurred in fast moving action, particularly with so many wearing coloured boots these days.

Has anyone else found this, and is there anything that I can do to improve things?
popeye13
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Andrew:
“I've been using Chromecast to watch BT Sport on the tv from my iPad ever since they became available in the UK. The picture quality on the iPad itself is as good, if not better, than it has ever been. However, there has been a noticeable decline in picture quality on the tv when watching live action. The players are blurred in fast moving action, particularly with so many wearing coloured boots these days.

Has anyone else found this, and is there anything that I can do to improve things?”

There's been no change or difference for me.
The bitrates for the channels are the same as last seasons footie-season.
I guess perception is subjective
derek500
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Andrew:
“I've been using Chromecast to watch BT Sport on the tv from my iPad ever since they became available in the UK. The picture quality on the iPad itself is as good, if not better, than it has ever been. However, there has been a noticeable decline in picture quality on the tv when watching live action. The players are blurred in fast moving action, particularly with so many wearing coloured boots these days.

Has anyone else found this, and is there anything that I can do to improve things?”

I've gone from Chromecast to an Amazon Fire TV box. Had to sideload the app, but get better picture quality (I expect due to the 50hz output) and the 'enhanced' version with all the streams and interactive stuff, that is blocked on Chromecast.
Jonny_Bentley1
01-09-2015
574k for Newcastle-Arsenal (ITV Media)
634k for Man Utd-Newcastle (BARB)
Glob_blob
01-09-2015
Tbh think BT would have hoped for higher
PaulLFC
03-09-2015
Radio Times listings have updated and it seems we're down from 4 live CL games to 3 on the first Tuesday now - BTS1, BTS2 and BTS Europe - ESPN is showing CFL instead. No sign of the CL Goals show, disappointingly.

Also no confirmation yet of which matches are being shown on the 3 channels rather than red button, which I find surprising, as I would have thought BT would want to promote the matches in adverts as quickly as possible. Obviously two of the picks will be a given, but the third "main channel" match is less clear. If I had to guess I'd say BT will probably go with Real Madrid v Shakhtar, although PSG v Malmo has the Ibra factor (still think this will be a red button match however), and Galatasaray v Atletico Madrid could be another choice.
AR1983
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by PaulLFC:
“Radio Times listings have updated and it seems we're down from 4 live CL games to 3 on the first Tuesday now - BTS1, BTS2 and BTS Europe - ESPN is showing CFL instead. No sign of the CL Goals show, disappointingly.

Also no confirmation yet of which matches are being shown on the 3 channels rather than red button, which I find surprising, as I would have thought BT would want to promote the matches in adverts as quickly as possible. Obviously two of the picks will be a given, but the third "main channel" match is less clear. If I had to guess I'd say BT will probably go with Real Madrid v Shakhtar, although PSG v Malmo has the Ibra factor (still think this will be a red button match however), and Galatasaray v Atletico Madrid could be another choice.”

Will BT 1 not be the goals show with matches on Europe and BT 2. That would make most sense to me.
OMc
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by AR1983:
“Will BT 1 not be the goals show with matches on Europe and BT 2. That would make most sense to me.”

Agreed, surely you'd go with the goals show as part of the Lite pack and keep the live games for the full subscribers, with the main game on Europe and the second game on 2.
PaulLFC
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by AR1983:
“Will BT 1 not be the goals show with matches on Europe and BT 2. That would make most sense to me.”

That would make a lot of sense, actually. The only reason I think this may not be the case is that BTS1 only has Champions League listed on Tuesday according to Digiguide, and not Wednesday. So I'd assumed this was probably a Showcase game simulcast on BTS1.

However, since Digiguide is also listing a match on ESPN on Tuesday (which Radio Times now isn't in the updated listings) this may be more clear tomorrow when the Radio Times listings update to include Wednesday's details.
Jonny_Bentley1
03-09-2015
ON BT Sport Europe for Tuesday 15:
18:00 - UEFA Champions League Tonight Live
19:30 - Live UEFA Champions Legaue (probably PSV v Manchester United)
22:00 - UEFA Champions League Highlights Show

Games on BTS1 & BTS2 also scheduled to start with coverage at 19:30. Could that be Lineker and co, start at 18:00 previewing all games before taking control of the main game at 19:30 with Humphrey covering the other English team on and Hipgrave on the third choice match?
Also, with Richardson doing the 'goals' programme would he be then on the highlights at 10?
Mr Newshound
03-09-2015
This suggests what may be the chosen games that will be broadcast on the main BT Sport channels...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNksr-gWsAAaObG.jpg
stato77
03-09-2015
The Goals Show is currently listed as being on BT Sport Extra 7
DragonQ
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by stato77:
“The Goals Show is currently listed as being on BT Sport Extra 7”

So not available via satellite.
PaulLFC
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“So not available via satellite. ”

I think it will be available, but in SD and not recordable. I'll stick to watching it on the app and hoping it gets archived on demand like the matches themselves.
MrRayDO
03-09-2015
Since BT have had a sport ch ,my landline phone keeps going up and next week it will the 2nd time in one year. BT did say 2 years ago that landlines would not go up to pay to keep their sports ch up and running . I think it is
Mr Newshound
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by stato77:
“The Goals Show is currently listed as being on BT Sport Extra 7”

Where are you seeing this?
Graham_Morgan
03-09-2015
First BT Showcase game showing as Roma v Barcelona, Wednesday 16th Sept.

Tues Sept 15th PSV v Man Utd BT Sport 2, Man City v Juventus BT Sport Europe

Wed Sept 16th Chelsea v Maccabi Tel-Aviv BT Sport 2, Dinamo Zagreb v Arsenal BT Sport Europe.
PaulLFC
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by Graham_Morgan:
“First BT Showcase game showing as Roma v Barcelona, Wednesday 16th Sept.

Tues Sept 15th PSV v Man Utd BT Sport 2, Man City v Juventus BT Sport Europe

Wed Sept 16th Chelsea v Maccabi Tel-Aviv BT Sport 2, Dinamo Zagreb v Arsenal BT Sport Europe.”

Good game for Showcase - only 2 games on "normal" HD channels when they could show at least 3 (4 when there's a Showcase game) says to me they're clearly pushing BT TV - a bit disappointing really as a Sky subscriber but it was expected.

Full schedule:

Tuesday September 15: Paris Saint-Germain v Malmo - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 3)
Tuesday September 15: Real Madrid v Shakhtar Donetsk - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 1)
Tuesday September 15: Wolfsburg v CSKA Moscow - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 4)
Tuesday September 15: PSV v Manchester United - 7.30pm (BT Sport 2)
Tuesday September 15: Galatasaray v Atletico Madrid - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 5)
Tuesday September 15: Benfica v Astana - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 6)
Tuesday September 15: Manchester City v Juventus - 7.30pm (BT Sport Europe / BT Sport Ultra HD)
Tuesday September 15: Sevilla v Borussia Monchengladbach - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 2)

Wednesday September 16: Bayer Leverkusen v BATE Borisov - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 5)
Wednesday September 16: Roma v Barcelona - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 1/BT Sport Showcase)
Wednesday September 16: Dinamo Zagreb v Arsenal - 7.30pm (BT Sport Europe)
Wednesday September 16: Olympiakos v Bayern Munich - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 2)
Wednesday September 16: Dynamo Kyiv v Porto - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 4)
Wednesday September 16: Chelsea v Maccabi Tel-Aviv - 7.30pm (BT Sport 2)
Wednesday September 16: Valencia v Zenit - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 3)
Wednesday September 16: Gent v Lyon - 7.30pm (BT Sport Extra 6)
LOSG
03-09-2015
Originally Posted by DragonQ:
“So not available via satellite. ”

The press release clearly stated that this would be exclusive to BT TV. Two months later and people still don't seem to want to get over it.

Originally Posted by PaulLFC:
“Good game for Showcase - only 2 games on "normal" HD channels when they could show at least 3 (4 when there's a Showcase game) says to me they're clearly pushing BT TV - a bit disappointing really as a Sky subscriber but it was expected.”

How many games did Sky show on a MD in HD last season? 2.
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