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BT Sports Channel (Part 2)
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popeye13
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“No Chequered Flag after the MotoGP this Sunday? Iwan still sulking? ”

Details? What happened
gomezz
09-10-2015
Don't have the details as I don't watch SCD. Just glimpsed the headline.
Jonny_Bentley1
11-10-2015
Bit of a random question but it's certainly been evident that Fletch and Sav's popularity has risen significantly since in started off lasts season. Question is, in their third season with BT's PL matches moving to 17:30, how are they going to keep the format?

Personally, I feel it HAS to remain as that morning show from 10-12 first and foremost but then BT may struggle linking it to their PL match. They could go 10-12, have a conference match from 12-2.30 and then perhaps tackle Soccer Saturday and Final Score with a Fletch and Sav sort of goals service, leading into the evening kick off - as done last season on a few FA Cup matches.

The 17:30 slot is a better time to have PL matches but it does mean BT will have to rejig a few things on their schedules.
Neil_Harris
11-10-2015
Don't they show premiership Rugby on a Saturday afternoon?
casinoman13
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Don't they show premiership Rugby on a Saturday afternoon?”

They do indeed so it would be hugely doubtful that Fletch and Sav would be on about 3.30 on a Saturday afternoon.

So unless they are going to have a major change around like have Premiership football on BT Europe which could then fit in with the show being shown before the football, I would say it would have to be kept at around 10.00 or even midday on the Saturday.
Jonny_Bentley1
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Don't they show premiership Rugby on a Saturday afternoon?”

They do but my reason behind it would be that there are many gaps in the season when Rugby matches aren't being shown in that 15:00-17:00 slot for whatever reason (I don't know how it works I'm not a rugby fan).
F&S in its usual slot, conference match followed by a score service and the PL game on BTS1.
Rugby would go onto BTS 2 and Moto GP onto BTS ESPN.
I would love James Richardson and the EFS team to do a similar format to the goals show for the PL on Saturday afternoons but of course they'd have to work around the fact they can't show the goals :/. But it'd be great to see them on a Final Score/Soccer Saturday style setup.
mavreela
11-10-2015
Before fantasy scheduling BT Sport remember their broadband customer now only receive:

"BT Sport Lite, which will remain free with BT Broadband, and they’ll still be able to enjoy exclusively live Barclays Premier League football, the Scottish Professional Football League and Aviva Premiership rugby union"

That from BT's own press release, implying those three leagues are guaranteed for their "free" service. So, save for live clashes between them, those sports will have to go on BT Sport 1.
stv viewer
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“Before fantasy scheduling BT Sport remember their broadband customer now only receive:

"BT Sport Lite, which will remain free with BT Broadband, and they’ll still be able to enjoy exclusively live Barclays Premier League football, the Scottish Professional Football League and Aviva Premiership rugby union"

That from BT's own press release, implying those three leagues are guaranteed for their "free" service. So, save for live clashes between them, those sports will have to go on BT Sport 1.”

The scottish Games that arent on bt sport 1 go on bt Sport extra 1 which is also part of bt sport lite so that could get used more
OMc
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Don't they show premiership Rugby on a Saturday afternoon?”

They're jumping from 69 to 80 matches per season at some point as well, which works out as an extra half a match per round.

Perhaps some of these will be played at 12:30 or 12:45, with a 15:00 kick off as well. (In fact, they could even bring that forward to 14:45 to allow more build-up for the football.)
marke09
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“No Chequered Flag after the MotoGP this Sunday? Iwan still sulking? ”

same next Sunday as well could be due to the earlyvstarts ofvthe GP at 6am but they coud do chequered flag from the studio

Was wtching the warm up this morning but it was delayed due to the weather and forvtwo hours they just showedit raining now if that had been the beeb they would have sown some action like the qualifying highlights
gomezz
11-10-2015
I had the warm ups that weren't on my tablet overnight in bed. Woke up, got up to watch the races on the TV downstairs and found I had not dozed through the warm ups after all.
charlieparr
11-10-2015
IMO next seasons Saturday rugby on BTS will be a 2:15 kick off so the football show can start at 4:30 leading into the 5:30 game. Live SPL and NL games would start at 12pm.
OMc
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by charlieparr:
“IMO next seasons Saturday rugby on BTS will be a 2:15 kick off so the football show can start at 4:30 leading into the 5:30 game. Live SPL and NL games would start at 12pm.”

Sounds sensible, but I'd prefer 2:30 for the rugby, and for a decent build-up rather than loads of post-match. If the rugby for whatever reason overruns then there's still plenty of slack in the hour-long football buildup.
Rich1977
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by charlieparr:
“IMO next seasons Saturday rugby on BTS will be a 2:15 kick off so the football show can start at 4:30 leading into the 5:30 game. Live SPL and NL games would start at 12pm.”

Plus BT will also still have 3 or 4 Saturday 12.30 Kicks offs

6 x midweek games
32 x Sat 5.30 games
3 or 4 x Sat 12.30 games
0 or 1 x Final Sunday game

So I can see BT have a Super Saturday for Football on BTS1 and moving rugby to BTS2

Fletch & Sav then a 12.30 game PL, Scottish, National, FA Cup or European then a soccer Saturday type show then the 5.30 game and then perhaps Game of the Day/Match Choice if they win those rights as they are still not awarded yet.
arunan22
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“Before fantasy scheduling BT Sport remember their broadband customer now only receive:

"BT Sport Lite, which will remain free with BT Broadband, and they’ll still be able to enjoy exclusively live Barclays Premier League football, the Scottish Professional Football League and Aviva Premiership rugby union"

That from BT's own press release, implying those three leagues are guaranteed for their "free" service. So, save for live clashes between them, those sports will have to go on BT Sport 1.”

Of course this is only guaranteed for this season. Strongly suspect BT's plan in the future (perhaps not next season) is to have a single BT Sports pack at £5 a month for all BT Sport channels incl BT Sport 1, so they arent stuck with having to show certain things on certain channels.

I.e so they have a CL game on BT Sport 1 for example, or move the Rugby to BT Sport 2 if needed.
madmusician
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by arunan22:
“Of course this is only guaranteed for this season. Strongly suspect BT's plan in the future (perhaps not next season) is to have a single BT Sports pack at £5 a month for all BT Sport channels incl BT Sport 1, so they arent stuck with having to show certain things on certain channels.

I.e so they have a CL game on BT Sport 1 for example, or move the Rugby to BT Sport 2 if needed.”

I don't know. I guess it depends how important the 'lite' pack has proven for people to take BT Broadband. I.e. They want to see PL football, and thus the free sport still drives them to BT for broadband, whilst not caring enough to pay the £5 per month for the full pack. If there are enough people in that boat, then I can see BT carrying on the lite option.

After all, their continued PL package supports that option - they still have 1 game a week, generally, and a similar standard of games.

I don't see it's a massive problem that CL doesn't go onto BTS 1. Sky always put the CL on SS2, for example. And BTS Europe is clearly the flagship channel when it comes to the European stuff. I think they've handled it all rather well, actually, and I'd be surprised to see it change. After all, the initial offer back in summer 2013 led to a huge upsurge in BT broadband customers.
mavreela
12-10-2015
I cannot see BT Sport dropping their "free" service when they have made it so central to their marketing and strategy.

There will always be people who would not even pay £5 to watch sport, but the opportunity to get some for free will see them choose BT for their broadband.

What is possible is they could drop the rugby from being guaranteed as part of the free offering. But I cannot see them doing that after just one year into the new package structure.
Dancc
12-10-2015
Rather belatedly, here are the full figures for Matchday 2 in the Champions League and Europa League on BT Sport:

Tuesday, September 29
Arsenal v Olympiakos (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 423,000
Porto v Chelsea (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 324,000

Wednesday, September 30
Borussia M'gladbach v Man City (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 225,000
Manchester United v Wolfsburg (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 816,000

Thursday, October 1
Monaco v Tottenham (BT Sport Europe, 17:55): 298,000
Liverpool v Sion (BT Sport Europe, 19:55): 420,000
Celtic v Fenerbahce (BT Sport 2, 19:55): 236,000

City: You've got no fans !
DragonQ
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Rather belatedly, here are the full figures for Matchday 2 in the Champions League and Europa League on BT Sport:

Tuesday, September 29
Arsenal v Olympiakos (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 423,000
Porto v Chelsea (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 324,000

Wednesday, September 30
Borussia M'gladbach v Man City (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 225,000
Manchester United v Wolfsburg (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 816,000

Thursday, October 1
Monaco v Tottenham (BT Sport Europe, 17:55): 298,000
Liverpool v Sion (BT Sport Europe, 19:55): 420,000
Celtic v Fenerbahce (BT Sport 2, 19:55): 236,000

City: You've got no fans ! ”

As a neutral I am rather amazed that a Europa League match involving Liverpool has nearly twice as many viewers as a Champions League match involving Manchester City. Like you say, it's gotta be down to the number of fans (who can afford BT Sport ).

Arsenal v Bayern (and vice versa) should get really high numbers if there's any justice. Huge games by any measure - although if Arsenal lose twice they might still be able to qualify (if the other two teams draw with each other twice, then both lose to Bayern)
casinoman13
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Rather belatedly, here are the full figures for Matchday 2 in the Champions League and Europa League on BT Sport:

Tuesday, September 29
Arsenal v Olympiakos (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 423,000
Porto v Chelsea (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 324,000

Wednesday, September 30
Borussia M'gladbach v Man City (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 225,000
Manchester United v Wolfsburg (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 816,000

Thursday, October 1
Monaco v Tottenham (BT Sport Europe, 17:55): 298,000
Liverpool v Sion (BT Sport Europe, 19:55): 420,000
Celtic v Fenerbahce (BT Sport 2, 19:55): 236,000

City: You've got no fans ! ”

I think BT will be pleased with the Man Utd and Liverpool figures considering it was only match day 2.

Just goes to show what the majority have said on these threads.....the biggest TV pullers are Man Utd and Liverpool.
Dancc
12-10-2015
Slightly mischievous of me to not point out that the BT Sport 2 games have a longer intro for some reason (half an hour more), so that will bring down the averages a fair bit. Therefore the City game would be closer to the Europa League games if you looked at match averages as opposed to programme rating.

Still, clearly not a team that rate particularly well...
Igloo_Man
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Tuesday, September 29
Arsenal v Olympiakos (BT Sport 2, 19:00): 423,000
Porto v Chelsea (BT Sport Europe, 19:30): 324,000”

I'm surprised to see Arsenal-Olympiakos rate higher than Porto-Chelsea. It had a longer programme build-up, was on a less high-profile channel and is the weaker looking game quality wise. I think it's generally accepted that Arsenal and Chelsea are at a comparable level when it comes to TV draw, but these numbers appear to suggest otherwise.
Dancc
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Igloo_Man:
“I'm surprised to see Arsenal-Olympiakos rate higher than Porto-Chelsea. It had a longer programme build-up, was on a less high-profile channel and is the weaker looking game quality wise. I think it's generally accepted that Arsenal and Chelsea are at a comparable level when it comes to TV draw, but these numbers appear to suggest otherwise.”

Yes, I was scratching my head a bit at that one as well. Especially given the start to the season that Chelsea have had. The whole Mourinho taking on his former club angle as well.

Maybe the fact that Arsenal's game was at home and so theoretically there was a greater need to get a result had an impact.
casinoman13
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Igloo_Man:
“I'm surprised to see Arsenal-Olympiakos rate higher than Porto-Chelsea. It had a longer programme build-up, was on a less high-profile channel and is the weaker looking game quality wise. I think it's generally accepted that Arsenal and Chelsea are at a comparable level when it comes to TV draw, but these numbers appear to suggest otherwise.”

Arsenal v Bayern in a weeks time should do well considering Arsenal Olympaiakos did as well as it did on Match day 2.

Have to say I was surprised Man Utd got as many as they did considering it wasn't really a glamour game, BT will be hoping they go a long way this year.
arunan22
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Igloo_Man:
“I'm surprised to see Arsenal-Olympiakos rate higher than Porto-Chelsea. It had a longer programme build-up, was on a less high-profile channel and is the weaker looking game quality wise. I think it's generally accepted that Arsenal and Chelsea are at a comparable level when it comes to TV draw, but these numbers appear to suggest otherwise.”

I'd disagree in terms of Arsenal and Chelsea being similar TV draw. Think there is a clear Top 2 (United and Liverpool), then Arsenal clearly 3rd, and then Chelsea further back in 4th.

Where Man City come into this is anyone's guess but often feel they rate quite poorly.

Also - just to add, I feel United benefit by playing on the same day as City, so cant compare like for like obviously. If United played the same day as Arsenal or Chelsea, suspect United would be lower.
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