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BT Sports Channel (Part 2)
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Dancc
02-11-2015
773k (9.7%) for BT's coverage of Chelsea v Liverpool on Sunday, reports ITV Media.

Underwhelming it has to be said.
casinoman13
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“going for 800k?”

Chelsea v Liverpool 773k according to ITV Media, rather disappointing figures I would say.
Peachy Keen
02-11-2015
I admit BT Sport PQ is very good via Chromecast but also is NOW TV. What l can't understand is why BT Sport keeps buffering while NOW TV is virtually free of the same symptom!

Does anyone have any clues why this is so?
Dancc
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Peachy Keen:
“I admit BT Sport PQ is very good via Chromecast but also is NOW TV. What l can't understand is why BT Sport keeps buffering while NOW TV is virtually free of the same symptom!

Does anyone have any clues why this is so?”

I'm on VM's top broadband package and experienced buffering on Now TV as recently as last Sunday, so...
derek500
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“Chelsea v Liverpool 773k according to ITV Media, rather disappointing figures I would say.”

Is BARB bright enough to pick up viewings via Chromecast, or in my case the app sideloaded onto an Amazon Fire box?
Peachy Keen
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I'm on VM's top broadband package and experienced buffering on Now TV as recently as last Sunday, so...”

I have not used Sky Sports for a few weeks now but when l had view it on NOW Tv, buffering kept to a minimum, say once on average within a 90 minute game of football. When l watch football on BT Sport it is about 4/5 times on average a game!
Jonny_Bentley1
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“Chelsea v Liverpool 773k according to ITV Media, rather disappointing figures I would say.”

What you do have to bare in mind however is that the programme went a fair way beyond the supposed 3.15pm finish time. Even with a 3.15pm finish time, that's a 15 mins longer outro than they used to have lasts season and many neutral viewers will be watching their own clubs. Supposing it stretched to about 3.30pm, there will have been an obvious low point between 3.00-3.30pm.
jda135
02-11-2015
Champions League: Matchday 3 Officials

ARS v BAY - 777k
DYK v CHE - 170k
CSKA v MU - 521k
MC v SEV - 257k

Goals Show (Tuesday) - 14,000
Goals Show (Wednesday) - 33,000

Arsenal game obvious stand out, with Man Utd not far behind. The Chelsea rating is unbelievably low, and Man City are not doing better either. Goals show down on both days to new lows.

Europa League: Matchday 3 Officials

LIV v RUB - 423k
AND v TOT - 265k
MOL v CEL - 152k

All rather underwhelming.
bottleofbest
02-11-2015
Those Europa figures are very disappointing
mlt11
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“773k (9.7%) for BT's coverage of Chelsea v Liverpool on Sunday, reports ITV Media.

Underwhelming it has to be said.”

I think it's about par - a few weeks ago Igloo_Man (I think - apologies if it was someone else) posted the three highest ever BT ratings for Sat 12.45pm games - from memory 773,000 for Chel/Liv would slot in around about 3rd or 4th place.

Can anyone find that post - I've spent ages looking fot it - is it in another thread?

If anyone could repost that post it would be helpful - and even better if Igloo_Man has the information maybe expand it to a top 5 or top 10.

So I don't think the Chel/Liv rating is in itself a bad rating but what I think it says to me is that BT's ratings seem to have plateaued - there doesn't seem to have been any further step forwards that might have been expected given the addition of CL.

As previously posted the purpose of BT acquiring CL is to generate new additional subscribers / viewers to BTS (which will of course also benefit the phone / broadband business).

If all BT CL viewers are just the same people who were already previously watching PL on BTS then there is no way that the CL contract could make sense for BT - as the incremental subs revenue (from new £5 subs + price rises) and advertising revenue could never cover the rights cost.

One other specific point - would the rating have been tape-checked - ie is it just the scheduled 12pm to 3.15pm or does it include the extra 20 mins outro over-run to 3.35pm? If the latter the rating would have been over 800k with a 3.15pm finish.
clewsy
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by jda135:
“Champions League: Matchday 3 Officials

ARS v BAY - 777k
DYK v CHE - 170k
CSKA v MU - 521k
MC v SEV - 257k

Goals Show (Tuesday) - 14,000
Goals Show (Wednesday) - 33,000

Arsenal game obvious stand out, with Man Utd not far behind. The Chelsea rating is unbelievably low, and Man City are not doing better either. Goals show down on both days to new lows.

Europa League: Matchday 3 Officials

LIV v RUB - 423k
AND v TOT - 265k
MOL v CEL - 152k

All rather underwhelming.”

That's because a lot of people have list interest in it. They were casual viewers who watched when they knew it was in ITV, however now it's gone. It's pay TV in most peoples eyes. I bet most people don't even know BT show a free game on the showcase channel.
Igloo_Man
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“I think it's about par - a few weeks ago Igloo_Man (I think - apologies if it was someone else) posted the three highest ever BT ratings for Sat 12.45pm games - from memory 773,000 for Chel/Liv would slot in around about 3rd or 4th place.

Can anyone find that post - I've spent ages looking fot it - is it in another thread?

If anyone could repost that post it would be helpful - and even better if Igloo_Man has the information maybe expand it to a top 5 or top 10.”

It's your lucky day!

Here's the top 10 for BT's weekend PL games, prior to Chelsea-Liverpool at the weekend:

Liverpool v Arsenal (13/14) - 973,000
Liverpool v Chelsea (14/15) - 940,000
Arsenal v Liverpool (14/15) - 855,000
Man Utd v Swansea (14/15) - 818,000
Tottenham v Man Utd (14/15) - 780,000 *
Tottenham v Arsenal (14/15) - 775,000
Chelsea v Arsenal (13/14) - 764,000
Burnley v Man Utd (14/15) - 717,000
Man City v Arsenal (13/14) - 683,000
Sunderland v Liverpool (14/15) - 683,000

(*) Sun 12:00 kick-off

So 773,000 for Chelsea-Liverpool would place it seventh in the list.
mlt11
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Igloo_Man:
“It's your lucky day!

Here's the top 10 for BT's weekend PL games, prior to Chelsea-Liverpool at the weekend:

Liverpool v Arsenal (13/14) - 973,000
Liverpool v Chelsea (14/15) - 940,000
Arsenal v Liverpool (14/15) - 855,000
Man Utd v Swansea (14/15) - 818,000
Tottenham v Man Utd (14/15) - 780,000 *
Tottenham v Arsenal (14/15) - 775,000
Chelsea v Arsenal (13/14) - 764,000
Burnley v Man Utd (14/15) - 717,000
Man City v Arsenal (13/14) - 683,000
Sunderland v Liverpool (14/15) - 683,000

(*) Sun 12:00 kick-off

So 773,000 for Chelsea-Liverpool would place it seventh in the list.”

Great work - thanks a lot!

So Chel/Liv is a bit lower down the list than I thought - although it's actually very close to 5th - certainly well within the margin of error of BARB ratings.

And depending upon the answer re whether the rating went to 3.35pm, it may actually have been around the 4th place rating of 818,000 on a like for like basis.

However what really matters is the broader picture - and the thing that immediately stands out from your list is that only 3 of the top 10 were in 13/14 whereas 7 of the top 10 were in 14/15 - implying substantial growth in the 2nd season.

Whereas Chel/Liv is only the first game of this season which would have made the top 10 - suggesting no sign of further growth so far this season. Though I would make one caveat to that - seasonal factors - ratings are generally higher in the mid winter months which we obviously haven't yet reached this season.

If it's not too much work please keep this list going if there are any new entries as this season progresses - to keep a broad picture I would keep a cut-off at 683,000 - ie so it will expand to a top 11, 12 etc - so a benchmark to watch will be whether more than 7 games this season can exceed 683,000.
Igloo_Man
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“If it's not too much work please keep this list going if there are any new entries as this season progresses - to keep a broad picture I would keep a cut-off at 683,000 - ie so it will expand to a top 11, 12 etc - so a benchmark to watch will be whether more than 7 games this season can exceed 683,000.”

Of course, no problem. I might also put a separate one together for the BH / midweek rounds tomorrow if I have time.
TLG86
03-11-2015
In case anyone wants to see a comparison of 2014-15 with 2013-14, I put together a post on the 2014-15 thread.

I'll try to get round to adding in this seasons figures later this month.
Igloo_Man
03-11-2015
I'd highly recommend reading TLG86's comparison post (and mlt11's consequent analysis) if you haven't already!

Here's the BT top 10 for BH / midweek rounds:

Man City v Liverpool (13/14) - 1,335,000
Man Utd v Tottenham (13/14) - 1,301,000
Tottenham v Chelsea (14/15) - 1,255,000
Arsenal v Man Utd (13/14) - 1,118,000
Liverpool v Tottenham (14/15) - 1,018,000
Liverpool v Everton (13/14) - 909,000
Man Utd v Newcastle (14/15) - 834,000
Tottenham v Man City (13/14) - 767,000
Newcastle v Man Utd (14/15) - 756,000
Arsenal v QPR (14/15) - 742,000

Obviously these are trickier to compare because of the varied timeslots, but it still gives a flavour for how often we may expect BT to break the one million mark on BH / midweek rounds. Incidentally the top three audiences here were all achieved on either Boxing Day or New Year's Day.
paul2050
03-11-2015
How does this compare to current sky sports viewing figures?... nobody seems to publish these on ds as regularly as BT sport...need to do both on a weekly basis so we know who's' doing what.
Neil_Harris
03-11-2015
How are ratings actually calculated?

On Saturday I watched all the 1st half and then flicked between the football and the racing during the 2nd half. When watching a race I kept half an eye on the match with the app.

Tonight I've watched Utd for a few mins and then the goals show for a bit and then back to the match.
Does that get counted?
gomezz
03-11-2015
Prompted by the shirts MC, JUV and others are wearing tonight I suggest that one way to resolve the team identification issue once and for all on the Goals Show is for all the home teams to wear their usual strong / primary colour strip and the away teams to wear wishy-washy pastel coloured strips ... except that wouldn't work for MC at home of course.
jlp95bwfc
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by paul2050:
“How does this compare to current sky sports viewing figures?... nobody seems to publish these on ds as regularly as BT sport...need to do both on a weekly basis so we know who's' doing what.”

Last weekend:

Sunday 12:30pm: Everton v Sunderland 668k (7.5%)
Sunday 3:30pm: Southampton v Bournemouth 868k (5.9%)
MNF 7pm: Spurs v Villa 560k (2.8%) *note the long build-up and post match*

Going back to last midweek:

Tuesday 7:30pm: Capital One Cup: Sheff Wed v Arsenal 731k (4.0%)
Wednesday 7pm: Capital One Cup: Liverpool v Bournemouth 778k (4.0%)

So basically Sky are trouncing them. Low key games rating similar to BT's big games.
Gurj73
04-11-2015
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Last weekend:

Sunday 12:30pm: Everton v Sunderland 668k (7.5%)
Sunday 3:30pm: Southampton v Bournemouth 868k (5.9%)
MNF 7pm: Spurs v Villa 560k (2.8%) *note the long build-up and post match*

Going back to last midweek:

Tuesday 7:30pm: Capital One Cup: Sheff Wed v Arsenal 731k (4.0%)
Wednesday 7pm: Capital One Cup: Liverpool v Bournemouth 778k (4.0%)

So basically Sky are trouncing them. Low key games rating similar to BT's big games.”

But do the figures associated with BT account for the number of people such as myself who watch via the app and apple TV ? OK, it wont be hundreds of thousands but I would vouch a fair few watch it that way.
Fletch10
04-11-2015
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Last weekend:

Sunday 12:30pm: Everton v Sunderland 668k (7.5%)
Sunday 3:30pm: Southampton v Bournemouth 868k (5.9%)
MNF 7pm: Spurs v Villa 560k (2.8%) *note the long build-up and post match*

Going back to last midweek:

Tuesday 7:30pm: Capital One Cup: Sheff Wed v Arsenal 731k (4.0%)
Wednesday 7pm: Capital One Cup: Liverpool v Bournemouth 778k (4.0%)

So basically Sky are trouncing them. Low key games rating similar to BT's big games.”

Blimey, why was Southampton v Bournemouth so popular? I was there and wasn't that bothered by it... Simply all down to the time slot?
casinoman13
04-11-2015
656k for the Man Utd Champion's League game last night.

Pretty sure it will be higher for the Arsenal game tonight.
Jonny_Bentley1
04-11-2015
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“656k for the Man Utd Champion's League game last night.

Pretty sure it will be higher for the Arsenal game tonight.”

Maybe but the subplots surrounding the Chelsea game mean that one could attract quite a few neutrals. Still expect big figures however.
jlp95bwfc
05-11-2015
Just 463k (2.2%) for Bayern v Arsenal. Awful. Less than 423k for Chelsea as it didn't make the ITV Media top 10.
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