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BT Sports Channel (Part 2)
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TLG86
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by seagull_Mark:
“Liverpool v Arsenal 998,000, with a peak of 1.468 million. Impressive and once again showing the value of the Bank Holiday/Midweek package to BT. They will really miss this next season.”

They've still got the midweeks, it's just the bank holidays they've lost. I think there is slightly more chance of getting a big head to head in the midweek rounds and they'll be able to show a team a maximum of three times in the new Package F.
seagull_Mark
14-01-2016
Originally Posted by TLG86:
“They've still got the midweeks, it's just the bank holidays they've lost. I think there is slightly more chance of getting a big head to head in the midweek rounds and they'll be able to show a team a maximum of three times in the new Package F.”

Ah ok, not such a bad result for them then. Midweek rounds when there's very little competition from terrestrial or other sports channels (as the case for the past two nights) are very important.
seagull_Mark
18-01-2016
Tottenham v Sunderland 448,000
seagull_Mark
20-01-2016
Bristol City v West Brom FA Cup Replay - BTS 2 - 270,000
seagull_Mark
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by seagull_Mark:
“Bristol City v West Brom FA Cup Replay - BTS 2 - 270,000”

Liverpool v Exeter - FA Cup R3R - BTS 2 - 381,000

Compared to 3.86 million that saw Leicester v Tottenham at the same time on BBC One.
casinoman13
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by seagull_Mark:
“Liverpool v Exeter - FA Cup R3R - BTS 2 - 381,000

Compared to 3.86 million that saw Leicester v Tottenham at the same time on BBC One.”

They really couldn't of hoped for much more considering they were going head to head with the Tottenham game on BBC 1
cook0891
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by seagull_Mark:
“Liverpool v Exeter - FA Cup R3R - BTS 2 - 381,000

Compared to 3.86 million that saw Leicester v Tottenham at the same time on BBC One.”

Must have been one of the lowest ever rated Liverpool games in recent times? I know up against BBC so to be expected.
JSemple3
21-01-2016
3 cracking games you would think coming up for BT during March

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a7...al-on-march-5/
casinoman13
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by JSemple3:
“3 cracking games you would think coming up for BT during March

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a7...al-on-march-5/”

They all look decent to be honest and the south coast derby could be a cracker.
JSemple3
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“They all look decent to be honest and the south coast derby could be a cracker.”

Didn't see Everton V Arsenal there. Should be a good month for them (but what Arsenal will turn up on BT Sport) they don't seem to do too well when they on
charlieparr
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by casinoman13:
“They really couldn't of hoped for much more considering they were going head to head with the Tottenham game on BBC 1”

10% of the BBC figure, with an inferior match, seems pretty decent to me. What percentage of the population currently have access to BT Sport, so could have tuned in if they'd wanted to?
seagull_Mark
25-01-2016
BTS1 - Norwich v Liverpool; 657,000 (peak of 1.068million)

Super Sunday on Sky Arsenal v Chelsea had 1.563m with a peak of 2.508 m!
Fieldmouse83
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by mikey1947:
“Perhaps we might now get rid of the horrible L layout.”

In a way they HAVE. BT Sport Extra 6 channel is a simulcast of the BT Sports Europe channel only WITHOUT the graphics 'L'

That's channel 455 standard definition and 470 HD.

Also if your watching BT Sport Europe on a Sky box press red button to remove the 'L' however it will be in standard definition only.
mikey1947
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by Fieldmouse83:
“In a way they HAVE. BT Sport Extra 6 channel is a simulcast of the BT Sports Europe channel only WITHOUT the graphics 'L'

That's channel 455 standard definition and 470 HD.

Also if your watching BT Sport Europe on a Sky box press red button to remove the 'L' however it will be in standard definition only.”

Yes I know about the red button but the SD quality on Sky is dreadful and really unwatchable. Put the L behind the red button please.
Fieldmouse83
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by mikey1947:
“Yes I know about the red button but the SD quality on Sky is dreadful and really unwatchable. Put the L behind the red button please.”

Your right about SD on Sky I recently switched from BT Sport on my Sky box to viewing it on BT Youview+ internet channels and the SD on that is definitely better than Sky's.
But they won't put the 'L' behind the red button cos then nobody will bother with it. BT need to learn it can only work on a rolling news type channel like Sky Sports News do. But BT don't have a BT Sports News channel and are unlikely to so they need to swallow thier pride, admit the 'L'' Is unwanted disaster from start to finish and chop it altogether asap.
arunan22
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by seagull_Mark:
“BTS1 - Norwich v Liverpool; 657,000 (peak of 1.068million)

Super Sunday on Sky Arsenal v Chelsea had 1.563m with a peak of 2.508 m!”

That seems a very good peak figure for Sky - anyone know what the highest peak PL match on Sky is?
mogzyboy
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by arunan22:
“That seems a very good peak figure for Sky - anyone know what the highest peak PL match on Sky is?”

I'm pretty certain it was the Manchester Derby in April 2012. I seem to remember the peak being around 4.5m.
mlt11
25-01-2016
Originally Posted by arunan22:
“That seems a very good peak figure for Sky - anyone know what the highest peak PL match on Sky is?”

Man City v Man Utd - MNF - April 2012

Programme average - 2.658m
Match average - 4.049m
Peak - 4.410m

We generally don't get peaks or match averages as the BARB website only shows programme averages - but pretty sure the above is the highest ever Sky PL match rating (and indeed the highest ever Sky rating for anything). Link:

http://www.live-footballontv.com/blog/

I think there was a Media Guardian story at the time as well but can't find it now.
seagull_Mark
01-02-2016
FA Cup ratings over 4th round weekend;
BTS2 Saturday: Colchester v Tottenham 368,000
Liverpool v West Ham 684,000
8pm Highlights of POR v BOU; 123,000

BTS2 Sunday: Carlisle v Everton 384,000
mlt11
02-02-2016
Really strong results announced by BT today – the Champions League has given a real boost to all sides of the BT Consumer business (ie phone, broadband and TV) both in terms of customer numbers and revenues.

See slides below for all the details – note that these are for the Consumer business – ie phone + broadband + TV:

Presentation – see slides 20 and 21:

http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperfor...316-slides.pdf

KPIs – see slide 4 (which is actually 5/11):

http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperfor...s/q316KPIs.pdf

Won’t list out all the numbers as they are on the links.

However the most noticeable (and remarkable) thing is that EBITDA - essentially Operating Profit (but before depreciation) for the quarter (ie Oct to Dec 2015) is actually up vs prior year – despite the first time cost of CL rights.

Now we should be cautious looking at just one quarter – EBITDA for the previous quarter (ie July to Sept 2015) was down vs prior year and there may be some other one offs this quarter (or in the prior year comparatives) which are providing a distortion. But, on the face of it, it’s a tremendous result.

If you work through the numbers the implication is that Operating Costs (*) for the whole Consumer business are very near to being flat – other than the first time cost of the CL rights.

(*) Presumably a significant component is the inter-divisional charges from Openreach for the “supply” of lines.

Looks like some major efficiency savings are being achieved - eg look at the reduction in labour costs on slide 14 of the presentation - though that is for the whole of BT plc - although some of this may well relate to Consumer and savings in Openreach may feed across in the charges to Consumer.
popeye13
02-02-2016
BT Sport 2 showing the FA Cup replay between West Ham United & Liverpool with a 7.45pm kick off on
Tuesday 9 February
(BBC showing Peterborough United v West Bromwich Albion the following night on BBC One)
samburrows
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Really strong results announced by BT today – the Champions League has given a real boost to all sides of the BT Consumer business (ie phone, broadband and TV) both in terms of customer numbers and revenues.

See slides below for all the details – note that these are for the Consumer business – ie phone + broadband + TV:

Presentation – see slides 20 and 21:

http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperfor...316-slides.pdf

KPIs – see slide 4 (which is actually 5/11):

http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperfor...s/q316KPIs.pdf

Won’t list out all the numbers as they are on the links.

However the most noticeable (and remarkable) thing is that EBITDA - essentially Operating Profit (but before depreciation) for the quarter (ie Oct to Dec 2015) is actually up vs prior year – despite the first time cost of CL rights.

Now we should be cautious looking at just one quarter – EBITDA for the previous quarter (ie July to Sept 2015) was down vs prior year and there may be some other one offs this quarter (or in the prior year comparatives) which are providing a distortion. But, on the face of it, it’s a tremendous result.

If you work through the numbers the implication is that Operating Costs (*) for the whole Consumer business are very near to being flat – other than the first time cost of the CL rights.

(*) Presumably a significant component is the inter-divisional charges from Openreach for the “supply” of lines.

Looks like some major efficiency savings are being achieved - eg look at the reduction in labour costs on slide 14 of the presentation - though that is for the whole of BT plc - although some of this may well relate to Consumer and savings in Openreach may feed across in the charges to Consumer.”

Absolutely stunning results. Barely seem believable actually, particularly the Earnings figures.
madmusician
02-02-2016
Thanks for reporting that, mlt11. Can I ask, is this likely to be a one-off increase or do you think this is sustainable for BT? The reason I ask is that there were impressive results in the quarter directly after the launch of BT Sport, as the 'free sport with broadband' offer generated a number of fresh subscribers, but this was a one-off 'bump' if you like, with results plateauing somewhat afterwards. Is this likely to be repeated?

Judging by the results posted, it certainly seems as if investing in the Champions League has been a good move for BT Sport.
Jason C
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Really strong results announced by BT today – the Champions League has given a real boost to all sides of the BT Consumer business (ie phone, broadband and TV) both in terms of customer numbers and revenues.”

Speaking as a layman - and a Sky customer - is it safe to assume, therefore, that this will cause BT to redouble their efforts to secure more major sports rights on the same scale as the Champions League?
samburrows
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“Speaking as a layman - and a Sky customer - is it safe to assume, therefore, that this will cause BT to redouble their efforts to secure more major sports rights on the same scale as the Champions League?”

Almost unbelievably, the results of the tender for the Champions League 18/19 - 20/21 rights will become clear in the Autumn. Any change to the value of these rights will be an interesting pointer to your question.
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