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BT Sports Channel (Part 2)
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Mark.
03-08-2016
433 and 457 are largely irrelevant. Anyone who has HD will tune to 414 and 417; anyone who doesn't will also tune to 414 and 417.
RobSmithS
04-08-2016
Although the EPG numbers/channel names have yet to change I'm looking at BT Sport 3 on Sky 414 and the L shape looks a little different (font type/colour-wise grey) and so the indications are this L shape may well run as before on BT Sport Europe but now on BT Sport 3.

Pressing red gives you full screen and the DOG in the bottom right is now "BT Sport 3".


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABObYVUAE7k-Z.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABP87UkAI6iF4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABQzXVYAARh4t.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABRpDUsAELL8x.jpg
fatboy75
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by RobSmithS:
“Although the EPG numbers/channel names have yet to change I'm looking at BT Sport 3 on Sky 414 and the L shape looks a little different (font type/colour-wise grey) and so the indications are this L shape may well run as before on BT Sport Europe but now on BT Sport 3.

Pressing red gives you full screen and the DOG in the bottom right is now "BT Sport 3".


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABObYVUAE7k-Z.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABP87UkAI6iF4.jpg

[url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABQzXVYAARh4t.jpg[/url

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABRpDUsAELL8x.jpg”

It's looking like the BT sport app now
RobSmithS
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by fatboy75:
“It's looking like the BT sport app now”

RT Software Ltd. ‏@RTSoftware 10m 10 minutes ago
@btsport launched the new reverse L-Bar graphic powered by #RTsoftware this morning #bt #reverseLbar #graphic #tog2d

https://twitter.com/RTSoftware/statu...39254672105472
mlt11
04-08-2016
Not mentioned yet but BT's quarterly results came out at the end of last week.

Changes vs same quarter in prior year (slide 3/13):
Broadband & TV revenue - Up 20.7%
Total Consumer revenue - Up 9.2%
EBITDA - Down 7.4%
Operating profit - Down 10.1%

So continued strong top line growth but increased costs relating to the CL are such that the bottom line falls.

Contrast with the financial year to the end of March 2016 where EBITDA and Operating profit both actually rose marginally.

When looking at profitability with the new CL contract, the financial year doesn't match the football season so the March year end numbers obviously didn't include a full year of CL costs.

If we reconstruct the P&L to look at the 12 months to June 2016 we get:

EBITDA:
12 months to June 2016 - £1,036m
12 months to June 2015 - £1,061m
Change = Down 2.4%

Operating profit:
12 months to June 2016 - £827m
12 months to June 2015 - £848m
Change = Down 2.5%

I think that still has to be considered a pretty remarkable result - the bottom line only falling very slightly despite the huge cost increase from the CL. The CL costs will now remain flat for the next 2 years so further revenue growth will then feed through to the bottom line.

BT does face some cost inflation going forward - though nothing remotely like that facing Sky:

- BT's PL costs rise £74m this season under the new PL contract and they will have Australian cricket for the first time this year (believed to be approx £16m) and there may be some other inflationary increases re the likes of UFC and WTA though they will be trivial in the overall scheme of things.

- Aviva costs will then rise approx £20m in 2017/18 but other than that there is nothing else significant pre 2018/19 when there will of course be a new CL rights round.

Contributing to the revenue growth is TV subscriber growth (ie BT TV platform) which continues to be very strong - 59k vs 60k in the same quarter in the prior year. There are now over 1.6 million BT TV subscribers - up 61% over the last 2 years (slide 9/13):

June 2016 - 1,620k
June 2015 - 1,202k
June 2014 - 1,007k

One other bit of information - programme rights costs are shown on slide 11/13:

3 months to June 2016 - £163m
12 months to March 2016 - £544m

Notice the step up in the Sept 2015 quarter (obviously due to CL) but then they remain almost exactly flat quarter on quarter - implying football costs are being amortised on a 12 month straight line basis - not just over the football season.

http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperfor.../Q116-KPIs.pdf
Mr Newshound
04-08-2016
Details of BT's football programming for the season ahead:

http://sport.bt.com/football/news/bt...11364077195571
marke09
04-08-2016
'BT Sport Score', which will kick off every Saturday at 2.30pm, will see viewers kept up to date with all the latest live scores from across the UK and Europe, including the FA Women's Super League (WSL).

Presenter Mark Pougatch will be joined by a host of BT Sport pundits such as Jermaine Jenas, Harry Kewell, Robbie Savage, Harry Redknapp, David James and ex-referee Howard Webb.

Further guests will include current managers, recently retired players and former referees, as well as ex-players and leading figures from the WSL game. The show will also include fantasy football updates.
TLG86
04-08-2016
Thank you very much mlt11, very interesting.
LOSG
04-08-2016
Premiership Rugby has moved to BT Sport 2 due to the new results program. Not sure if it will be available on the red button for 'lite' customers - but - the 'lite' option is no longer available to new subscribers, only existing.
Rich1977
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Newshound:
“Details of BT's football programming for the season ahead:

http://sport.bt.com/football/news/bt...11364077195571”

Going to miss Fletch and Sav on a Saturday morning. Soccer AM is such a crap alternative.

Will also really miss the lunchtime games too. Was nice to watch while getting ready to go out for the day. 5.30 is a crap time for a kick off for me, I'm rarely at home that time of day and if I do catch the game I'm normally in a pub watching it for free anyway.

BT Sport has been significantly devalued for me this season. Anyone else feel the same?
Josep
04-08-2016
Why can't BT sport show tonight's game meaningful game live on TV!?!
I am a Juve fan & as much as I would want to watch West Ham v Juve, that game is only a friendly on Sunday & technically speaking that will not be the first ever game in the new stadium ...

West sham have sold out match out now! So can't they let BT sport screen the match tonight live! It's really shocking behaviour by Karen Brady, Sullivan & Gold!

It's a real special occasion under the lights to have the match screen lived to UK!
Today's match is a meaningful competitive knock out game which I'm sure many fans up & down the country would prefer to watch this meaningful match!

Brady - let your knickers loose now & let BT sport screen the match live tonight! As headquarters are based next to the stadium I'm pretty sure BT sport can cover all the cameras in no time!

Does any else agree / prefer to watch this meaningful knockout match tie tonight!?!
leicslad46
04-08-2016
Small issue is that bt sport 3 still needs you to press red button to view it full screen, That may be fine and dandy if you are watch via tv but not if you watch via the app.
sat-ire
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Josep:
“Why can't BT sport show tonight's game meaningful game live on TV!?!
I am a Juve fan & as much as I would want to watch West Ham v Juve, that game is only a friendly on Sunday & technically speaking that will not be the first ever game in the new stadium ...

West sham have sold out match out now! So can't they let BT sport screen the match tonight live! It's really shocking behaviour by Karen Brady, Sullivan & Gold!

It's a real special occasion under the lights to have the match screen lived to UK!
Today's match is a meaningful competitive knock out game which I'm sure many fans up & down the country would prefer to watch this meaningful match!

Brady - let your knickers loose now & let BT sport screen the match live tonight! As headquarters are based next to the stadium I'm pretty sure BT sport can cover all the cameras in no time!

Does any else agree / prefer to watch this meaningful knockout match tie tonight!?!”

Shocking behaviour

You wouldn't have wanted to live in the '70s and '80s

There also has to be a limit as to how many times the word "meaningful" can be used meaningfully in a post?

Anyway, the club's owners are within their rights to prevent live TV coverage, whether or not the game has been sold out.

As for the reason, I don't know but maybe they didn't want to set a precedent where there might not be a full house next time around because people will think it'll sell out and be on live anyway so not bother buying tickets.

As for the sexist remarks, I'm not sure they belong on this forum (or any others to be fair).
Josep
04-08-2016
Apologies didn't mean to cause any offence sincere apologies if caused any offence

But I'm sure many would agree with my points I mentioned
sat-ire
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Josep:
“Apologies didn't mean to cause any offence sincere apologies if caused any offence

But I'm sure many would agree with my points I mentioned”

Crucially, though, West Ham's owners don't.

Even more crucially, it is their call to make.
Rich1977
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Josep:
“Brady - let your knickers loose now”

Originally Posted by Josep:
“Apologies didn't mean to cause any offence”

Well sexist remarks like that are either intended or just plain ignorant but whichever it is such remarks are always offensive.
Jason C
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by sat-ire:
“Anyway, the club's owners are within their rights to prevent live TV coverage, whether or not the game has been sold out. ”

I presume, though, that the option is only available to them because the match is being played before the centralised phase of the competition kicks in, i.e. if West Ham get to the group stage, they wouldn't be able to prevent any of their group games being televised if they wanted to.

This kind of thing does hark back to the 1980s when clubs were paranoid that live TV coverage of their games would deter people from going to watch them in person - so much so that when the Football League first allowed live games to be shown in 1983, they created a fund to compensate home clubs for the shortfall in gate receipts from people choosing to watch the match on TV instead of at the ground.

I also seem to remember that the FA would only allow England matches at Wembley to be shown live on TV at the time if they were sold out.
sat-ire
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“I presume, though, that the option is only available to them because the match is being played before the centralised phase of the competition kicks in, i.e. if West Ham get to the group stage, they wouldn't be able to prevent any of their group games being televised if they wanted to.”

That is, indeed, the case
Josep
04-08-2016
But couldn't West Ham agree in advance with BT by having an agreement on 2 situations
1). If West Ham sell out - then BT can screen the hand live
2). If West Ham don't & have only sold 35,000 or less then BT cannot screen the game
After all anything above 35,000 seats or more West Ham revenue would be higher than Upton Park revenue as Upton Park only held 35,000 seats

How much would BT sport be offering to screen the match live ...?

£500k or £1m..?

Does any one know ..?
mlt11
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by LOSG:
“Premiership Rugby has moved to BT Sport 2 due to the new results program. Not sure if it will be available on the red button for 'lite' customers - but - the 'lite' option is no longer available to new subscribers, only existing.”

Will be worth keeping an eye on BT's ratings for Premiership Rugby.

In the past they have tended to be very significantly higher when on immediately after the live PL game.

Now this season there won't be any games with a PL intro, it'll be on BTS2 and there will be the competition from the scores programme.

So will be interesting to see how much of an effect all of the above have.
leicslad46
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by RobSmithS:
“Although the EPG numbers/channel names have yet to change I'm looking at BT Sport 3 on Sky 414 and the L shape looks a little different (font type/colour-wise grey) and so the indications are this L shape may well run as before on BT Sport Europe but now on BT Sport 3.

Pressing red gives you full screen and the DOG in the bottom right is now "BT Sport 3".


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABObYVUAE7k-Z.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABP87UkAI6iF4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABQzXVYAARh4t.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpABRpDUsAELL8x.jpg”

Only BT Sport would show totally disregard for sports fans who dont follow football.

BT Sport Europe should never have had a condition to press red to view it full screen.

The issue of the red button needs addressing when watching the channel through the BT Sport app. Because there is no red button to press red on the app
popeye13
04-08-2016
I also notice that yet again BT have proven they couldn't care less what viewers want, they still have a ghastly L-Bar on the screen and even bloody redesigned it!!!!
Its any wonder they have such an appalling track record when it comes to customer service.....
David_Johns
04-08-2016
Originally Posted by popeye13:
“I also notice that yet again BT have proven they couldn't care less what viewers want, they still have a ghastly L-Bar on the screen and even bloody redesigned it!!!!
Its any wonder they have such an appalling track record when it comes to customer service.....”

I don't like the L bar either wish they would keep it to certain hours or something. At least the espn dog has been significantly improved and doesn't appear to take as much room as before.
aberboy
04-08-2016
On the very very plus side the BT Sport/ESPN HD Live dog is a lot lot smaller; and is see through too.

However, The red ESPN logo doesn't go well with the nice green grass of Detroit's baseball stadium!!
suffolkblue
04-08-2016
Yes I have to say liking the new logo for ESPN. All they have to do is change the dogs on the other channels now but that is highly unlikely
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