It had a five minute peak of 8,000. One BARB panelist represents 5,100 individuals. So it looks like one panelist watched the full five minutes and another for three minutes.

To get an average of 1,200 is equivalent to one BARB panelist (the five minute peak one!!) watching a quarter of the programme.

So at most, two people have been used to get one programme's rating (and they could be in the same house).

I think the fact that it was a Rangers home game, which is fairly unusual, probably damaged the rating. Rangers away games tend to be picked. If I remember correctly, Rangers games last season were usually the highest rated Scottish games.

Anyone predicting over 500,000 for the Liverpool vs Stoke programme average I think is being optimistic. I expect and think it will be in the 350,000 to 400,000 region.

75 minutes build-up is going to hit the programme average massively and deplete the figure. Peak I think will be shy of 1 million.

A shame so few tuned in as it was extremely good viewing !

Maybe timeslot too - Partick v Dundee United was a Friday night, whereas Rangers v Brechin was a Saturday lunchtime

It was quoted on here somewhere stating 18,000?

Though bear in mind the rapid increase in sign-ups.

25th July - 500,000 (or 550,000 - I saw both figures mentioned)

10th August - 1,000,000

The first BARB week was 1st August to 4th August. So there were only around 750,000 at that point - or maybe even less if sign-ups are accelerating.

All the predictions are for the match average.

A peak of 1m would be astonishing assuming it's not on VM XL.

There were 1m sign-ups as of 10th August.

Even with another 500,000 sign-ups this week that would still only give 1.5m homes.

To get 1m watching in 1.5m homes would be equivalent to an audience in all UK homes of approx 17m - at Sat 12.45pm!

OK, homes which have signed-up are much more likely to watch but Sky Sports is in 7m homes and they didn't often exceed 1m at Sat 12.45pm by much.

You would have thought in this day and age, they could give an exact amount of people watching a program.

This is an important point - and there is a lot of other live sport on as well.

SS2 - Twenty20 Finals Day
BT Sport 2 - Aberdeen v Celtic
BBC1 - World Athletics Champs

So there are four other pretty big live events which are going to split the Liverpool v Stoke audience - plus various other lower profile stuff as well.

To be honest, given the choice i'd much rather watch Leeds - owls than a dreary Stoke game - though will be on the way to a game so will most likely miss both anyway! Even then, Soccer Saturday would be a better watch than either

I think BT should be hitting around 1m on Saturday, with the novelty factor for all of those casual fans who have got PL footie for free now - though it doesn't really matter, whatever the figures are those that care can twist them to say whatever they want anyway, and they aren't really reflective of the public viewing, if based on a paltry 5100 homes! Even Daybreak gets more viewers than that

Surely in the modern world, our viewing habits on the various boxes (Sky, BT, VM, freeview etc) are or can be monitored, and give much more accurate figures? Does anyone know someone who is a BARBer?

If it was 5,100 homes with BT Sport we'd have some accuracy.

The BARB panel is made up of a cross section of regions (14), sex (2), age group (6) and social demographic (4 minimum).

So just to measure one person of each type would need 48 per region, so 672. Average household 2.3, so 292 BARB homes.

For the channels everyone receive BARB monitor around 7.5 people of each group.

You'd think so wouldn't you?

It's early so my maths may be wrong, but Ofcom says there are 52.2 million homes with TV in the UK - 5100 people is, I think, 0.009% of that. So you actually have to round up to even get 0.01% of the TV watching population. Not a very good sample is it?

Sky do their own in house ratings via 33,000 Sky+ boxes.

http://www.skymedia.co.uk/Audience-Insight/skyview.aspx

Sometimes they release figures.

e.g. last year they said 500,000 watched The Olympics in 3D, whereas BARB had one man and his dog!!

Bloody hell, I didn't realise it was that inaccurate!

Where did they say this?

That would mean an average of 1.2 people per home (not accounting for any without TV sets). I would guess that figure is more the total number of TV sets in UK homes,

BARB claims a figure of 27.4m unique TV households.

A quick look on a sample size calculator says that for a sample size of 27,400,000, with a confidence level of 99%, a margin of error of 1.8%, and a worst case accuracy percentage of 50%, it would require a sample size of 5,135.

Obviously as you get to channels in fewer households then the sample size effectively reduces, but it still provides a general picture that is suitable to the aims of the rating system: informing advertisers.

Assuming that BT Sport is in 100 BARB households, the margin of error would be 12.9% at its most extreme.

So those 1,200 viewers could actually be as high as 1,354.

Apologies you're right - I read it wrong, it was the total number of TVs.

I'll try and find a link.

There's a lot of info on the www.skymedia.co.uk website.

the Sky !Q Panel is interesting.


Now that's what I call a decent sample!!

British rock band Primal Scream have been signed up by BT Sport to create the theme tune for the channel’s Premier League and live event programmes.
Primal Scream have re-recorded the song and [up and coming music producer] (Daniel) Avery has applied his distinctive electronic sound to create the modern remix of the classic ‘Come Together’.
Source: http://twentyfour7football.com/bt-sp...l-scream-14053

Come Together original version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUjW82je_38

The following Monday Granada v Real Madrid has now been added. It is scheduled for coverage on Sky Sports 3 (19:55) 26th August (same time as Man Utd v Chelsea, Sky Sports 1).

Not saying that's anything different than previous mind as every Real/Barca game is shown live (aside 3pm blackout conflicts).

BT announce next lot of conference games.
http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/spor...ce=twitterfeed

I like that they're opening the show live too. Looking forward to it

Sorry for the slightly annoying question guys but I'm having Sky installed on Friday between 12 and 5 and I wondered how long it would take for BT to activate BT Sport if I ordered it online once Sky has been installed?

Had to stop playing that after a minute, what a god awful song!

The re-recording had better be an order of magnitude better than that (and preferably in tune).