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Hazel's eviction is going to be a trainwrek
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kate03
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Really? She goaded Daley that night in the safe house when she could see that he was getting angry. She then tried turning the housemates against Charlie when she probably just said something a little bit silly. She tried to drag it on instead of just telling Charlie to forget about it and carry on as normal.”

Do you think people care that much about stuff that happened weeks ago. Your only as good as your present day in that house and Hazel has been doing well.
Party Animal
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Zizu58:
“Shes done nothing wrong though .

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Now here's the trouble
in many peoples eyes she has done something very worng

she started an incident with Daley - he told her repeatedly to pack it in
she went on and on teasing him
he lost his temper he never hit her - he told her to stop it all time and time again

he went OTT with what he said and was thrown out
my problem with this is that yes he deserved to be thrown out

but found it grossly unfair that she stayed in the house.. and even worse she glossed it all over to the other housemates saying zero about what actually really happened

after that night and her consequent 'silence' over the incident
she deserves all the Booing she gets...
Channel 5 knew that the incident would give them maximum publicity and they milked it for all it was worth to their shame when if they had done the correct thing and thrown them both out
that incident would of been forgotten about in a matter of days

she clearly did do something wrong (very wrong)
so tonight is the first chance the viewing public has had a chance to get her out and let her see how they feel about her
Zizu58
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by attackmusic:
“There are only a handful of people who support Hazel on here. They usually just talk about her looks, suprise surprise.

I am still not sure she will go tonight. She has kind of been in the background, while Callum losing it has been ar the foreground. Neither will get a good reception!!!”

Check the polls , Gina lover !

Hazel is gaining popularity whilst Gina is , at last , showing her true colours and is on the wane .
Zizu58
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Party Animal:
“Now here's the trouble
in many peoples eyes she has done something very worng

she started an incident with Daley - he told her repeatedly to pack it in
she went on and on teasing him
he lost his temper he never hit her - he told her to stop it all time and time again

he went OTT with what he said and was thrown out
my problem with this is that yes he deserved to be thrown out

but found it grossly unfair that she stayed in the house.. and even worse she glossed it all over to the other housemates saying zero about what actually really happened

after that night and her consequent 'silence' over the incident
she deserves all the Booing she gets...
Channel 5 knew that the incident would give them maximum publicity and they milked it for all it was worth to their shame when if they had done the correct thing and thrown them both out
that incident would of been forgotten about in a matter of days

she clearly did do something wrong (very wrong)
so tonight is the first chance the viewing public has had a chance to get her out and let her see how they feel about her”


So you're glossing over the fact that Daley pinned her to the bed with his hand around her neck , bearing in mind how much power an angry , professional fighter would have !

You're also criticising her for not telling everyone what had happened !?

It would have been so easy for her to play the victim card then and be all the housemates on her side .

I thought she handled it well , just telling the only person she trusted and letting him make the judgement .
Zizu58
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Jessica_Hamby:
“I wonder if they'll dig out Aisleyne to be an attack dog on BOTS. I hope not but ratings are paramount and Ais looked like she wanted to stick the boot in last time.”

Well if there's anyone who has cause to be envious of Hazel's looks its that grotesque Ashleyne .
Zizu58
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Really? She goaded Daley that night in the safe house when she could see that he was getting angry. She then tried turning the housemates against Charlie when she probably just said something a little bit silly. She tried to drag it on instead of just telling Charlie to forget about it and carry on as normal.”

To be fair , there's silly and there's SILLY !!
paralax
02-08-2013
Hazel will brazen it out, while the chavs are booing and chanting during the interview, she will be thinking about how much she will make from the dirty mags, while they go back to their miserable lives.

She ought to go, her behaviour was dreadful.
Party Animal
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Zizu58:
“So you're glossing over the fact that Daley pinned her to the bed with his hand around her neck , bearing in mind how much power an angry , professional fighter would have !

You're also criticising her for not telling everyone what had happened !?

It would have been so easy for her to play the victim card then and be all the housemates on her side .

I thought she handled it well , just telling the only person she trusted and letting him make the judgement .”

So you're glossing over the fact that Daley pinned her to the bed with his hand around her neck , bearing in mind how much power an angry , professional fighter would have !

Your Glossing over the fact that she slapped his behind and pulled his underwear down

You're also criticising her for not telling everyone what had happened !
I am critcising her for not telling the TRUTH about what happened

I thought she handled it well

if she had handled it well she would be not getting voted out tonight as I believe she will

You are so blinkered to the fact that Daley put his hand on her neck that all what she did is OK and warrants not a mention

I dont like her or Daley
but she started the whole scene - and her time since has shown she is not a nice individual calling Dexter all the names under the Sun and now she needs a friend Dexter is suddenly the flavour of the month
and her endless back biting against them all - she should of gone 7 weeks ago hopefully tonight she goes

I hope Emma asks her if she feels guilty that Daley was thrown out and she was'nt
haphash
02-08-2013
In my view Hazel is the most intelligent and honest person in the house. Don't really like any of the others.

I hope we are going to be able to hear what Hazel says above the baying idiot mob. They should do the interviews inside the studio. I hate hearing the audience interrupting interviews and stealing the housemates time. Sallies eviction was terrible for that.
Scarlett Berry
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by haphash:
“In my view Hazel is the most intelligent and honest person in the house. Don't really like any of the others.

I hope we are going to be able to hear what Hazel says above the baying idiot mob. They should do the interviews inside the studio. I hate hearing the audience interrupting interviews and stealing the housemates time. Sallies eviction was terrible for that.”

Agree, just a pity that no mark's name will have to be mentioned.
Zizu58
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Party Animal:
“So you're glossing over the fact that Daley pinned her to the bed with his hand around her neck , bearing in mind how much power an angry , professional fighter would have !

Your Glossing over the fact that she slapped his behind and pulled his underwear down

You're also criticising her for not telling everyone what had happened !
I am critcising her for not telling the TRUTH about what happened

I thought she handled it well

if she had handled it well she would be not getting voted out tonight as I believe she will

You are so blinkered to the fact that Daley put his hand on her neck that all what she did is OK and warrants not a mention

I dont like her or Daley
but she started the whole scene - and her time since has shown she is not a nice individual calling Dexter all the names under the Sun and now she needs a friend Dexter is suddenly the flavour of the month
and her endless back biting against them all - she should of gone 7 weeks ago hopefully tonight she goes

I hope Emma asks her if she feels guilty that Daley was thrown out and she was'nt”


He was just lucky that she didn't press charges !!
Only she knows how much force was applied to her throat and seeing that it was all captured on film , If she was just out to get media attention what better way than to get the police involved , get on prime time news , worldwide and sue BB for millions for putting her in such a dangerous situation in the first place .
haphash
02-08-2013
Personally I hope that Hazel does press charges when she comes out. The disgraceful comments made by woman haters on these forums has really wound me up.

I actually think society is going backwards. People were much more cool about flirting, sexual behaviour and nudity in the 70s than they are now.

Where are these hateful views coming from?
kate03
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by haphash:
“Personally I hope that Hazel does press charges when she comes out. The disgraceful comments made by woman haters on these forums has really wound me up.

I actually think society is going backwards. People were much more cool about flirting, sexual behaviour and nudity in the 70s than they are now.

Where are these hateful views coming from?”

It beats me. Hazel wasn't even on my radar until all that vicious stuff started after the Daley thing. It was then that I began to defend her because the attacks on her were uncalled for. BB haven't exactly been supportive of her either and Emma Willis has snipes at her at every cut and turn. I'm dreading her interview tonight.
pepipop
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Kabira:
“Hazel will be fine .
She is media trained and knows how to act in an interview.

She will not be fazed as she knows the kind of reception she is likely to get from some people.

I don't think she could care less,she has achieved what she set out to do which is to raise her profile it is a shame that she did it in such a way but its the end result that counts to Hazel.

She will get plenty of work from being on BB.”

Precisely. I hope she doesn't go for the entertainment value of the look on the faces of the HMs, however if she does she won't care less about the boos as she's too strong a character and will move on with the life.
sleepybelle
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by kate03:
“It beats me. Hazel wasn't even on my radar until all that vicious stuff started after the Daley thing. It was then that I began to defend her because the attacks on her were uncalled for. BB haven't exactly been supportive of her either and Emma Willis has snipes at her at every cut and turn. I'm dreading her interview tonight.”

Emma Willis has been a disgrace. I really liked her too, which is a pity. If initially she doesn't hear a negative opinion on Hazel she will question the audience until she does and it's not when the question is specifically about her either. Must say I was like you regarding Hazel but I saw red when that knob Rodrigo was allowed to call Hazel a whore on tv and was gleefully told off for it.
haphash
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by kate03:
“It beats me. Hazel wasn't even on my radar until all that vicious stuff started after the Daley thing. It was then that I began to defend her because the attacks on her were uncalled for. BB haven't exactly been supportive of her either and Emma Willis has snipes at her at every cut and turn. I'm dreading her interview tonight.”

Same here really. I didn't have a strong opinion about her either way at the beginning other than noticing she was obviously more intelligent and feisty than the usual model girls they put on the show. I started defending her because I was so shocked at the attitudes of some people on this forum. There clearly are many who support violence against women and believe that she asked for it.

BB have acted appallingly towards her too. They whipped up hatred by interviewing Katy and then made it worse by interviewing Daley who didn't apologise! Emma should be ashamed of her behaviour too as I haven't noticed her sticking up for Hazel.

I hope that Dan will be there for her, she needs an ally or it will just be horrible.
DavetheSensible
02-08-2013
I knew I shouldn't have walked through that shimmering portal on the way to bed last night.
Now, how do I get back to August ...
mz fit
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“It will be very interesting to see if Emma brings the "sensitive" interviewing technique she employed with Katie and Daley”

Emma isn't very cutthroat...and this isn't news. It's a reality show and very seldom are any of the interviews harsh.

She'll treat Hazel like she's treated them all.
Laneyh
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Really? She goaded Daley that night in the safe house when she could see that he was getting angry. She then tried turning the housemates against Charlie when she probably just said something a little bit silly. She tried to drag it on instead of just telling Charlie to forget about it and carry on as normal.”

I take it you've never been involved in a drunken play fight or similar then ?
The man was still laughing after she pulled his shorts down
She'd no reason to believe he was going to escalate things.

Charlie has said a lot of stupid things inlcuding asking Hazel if she was responsible for the suicide of her ex-boyfriend
That alone is astoundingly ignorant

Charlie was the one that wouldn't drop things and wanted to re-hash both the 'aggressive' and 'felt like Daley' conversations.

Hazel is no angel even if she did goad Daley so what?
Over the years we have seen food fights, water fights, people dancing right up into people's faces, people sabotaging food, all sorts of 'pranks' - plenty of goading behaviour.
If anyone took the bait and took it too far they were ejected

Denis was booted out for spitting, someone else was kicked out for saying 'they knew people on the outside' - veiled threat.
Saying 'I'll nut you one' complete with gesture definitely falls into the category of across the line
John_Clough
02-08-2013
Not a hazel fan, and she can expect boos, but I hope people just don't go over the top. Now I think back, I can't really think of many things she's done wrong - certainly nothing worthy if the vitriol she has been receiving,on the internet, and which she will no doubt receive loads of tonight.

Glad she's going, but I don't hate her - I barely dislike her, she's just not a good hm (in my opinion);alasm this stopped being a gameshow long ago (if it ever was) - HMs are loved or hated, and those hated enough are subjected to a barrage of critisicm, most of it unfair

Really hope the girl is ok!!!
Last edited by John_Clough : 02-08-2013 at 10:56
Maxine_Roch
02-08-2013
Her eviction will be intresting that's for sure .
John_Clough
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Really? She goaded Daley that night in the safe house when she could see that he was getting angry. She then tried turning the housemates against Charlie when she probably just said something a little bit silly. She tried to drag it on instead of just telling Charlie to forget about it and carry on as normal.”

Not a Hazel fan, but I find the idea she 'goaded' Daley laughable. They were both messing around and Daley simply took it too far.

I don't stick up for Hazel at any opportunity, I'm not a fan, but I guess I just feel sorry for her. If I were her and someohow stumbled across this forum, I'd be mortified that all of these people who don't know me really hate me, its biizarre - and I do send hate, I don't mean yoiu but there are posters who actually hate her, which is kinda scary!
Xazou
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Laneyh:
“I take it you've never been involved in a drunken play fight or similar then ?
The man was still laughing after she pulled his shorts down
She'd no reason to believe he was going to escalate things.

Charlie has said a lot of stupid things inlcuding asking Hazel if she was responsible for the suicide of her ex-boyfriend
That alone is astoundingly ignorant

Charlie was the one that wouldn't drop things and wanted to re-hash both the 'aggressive' and 'felt like Daley' conversations.

Hazel is no angel even if she did goad Daley so what?
Over the years we have seen food fights, water fights, people dancing right up into people's faces, people sabotaging food, all sorts of 'pranks' - plenty of goading behaviour.
If anyone took the bait and took it too far they were ejected

Denis was booted out for spitting, someone else was kicked out for saying 'they knew people on the outside' - veiled threat.
Saying 'I'll nut you one' complete with gesture definitely falls into the category of across the line”

This is 100% the issue here. Everyone knows it was wrong for Hazel to goad him (and she was officially warned for this), but Daley took it to a completely unacceptable level. It takes a certain type of person to make that leap, and he was rightly punished for it. If we feel able to blame Hazel for Daley's actions, we are on a very slippery slope in society. However, I fear the mob mentality won't be changed in some people. They just love to hate someone, which is sad.
kate03
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by sleepybelle:
“Emma Willis has been a disgrace. I really liked her too, which is a pity. If initially she doesn't hear a negative opinion on Hazel she will question the audience until she does and it's not when the question is specifically about her either. Must say I was like you regarding Hazel but I saw red when that knob Rodrigo was allowed to call Hazel a whore on tv and was gleefully told off for it.”

I forgot about that. A real low point for BBOTS
kate03
02-08-2013
Originally Posted by Laneyh:
“I take it you've never been involved in a drunken play fight or similar then ?
The man was still laughing after she pulled his shorts down
She'd no reason to believe he was going to escalate things.

Charlie has said a lot of stupid things inlcuding asking Hazel if she was responsible for the suicide of her ex-boyfriend
That alone is astoundingly ignorant

Charlie was the one that wouldn't drop things and wanted to re-hash both the 'aggressive' and 'felt like Daley' conversations.

Hazel is no angel even if she did goad Daley so what?
Over the years we have seen food fights, water fights, people dancing right up into people's faces, people sabotaging food, all sorts of 'pranks' - plenty of goading behaviour.
If anyone took the bait and took it too far they were ejected

Denis was booted out for spitting, someone else was kicked out for saying 'they knew people on the outside' - veiled threat.
Saying 'I'll nut you one' complete with gesture definitely falls into the category of across the line”

Totally agree and well summed up too. It's nice to see a lot of fms on this thread with a sense of perspective and fairness.
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