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Old 02-08-2013, 15:50
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I find myself groaning every time I see betting news regarding the new Doctor. It will not be any of the actors that have been put up, most likely. It will be a fresh, new face that nobody recognises as it always is.

DW makes the lead actor become a star by the end of their stint, not the other way round. Tennant's doing well, I'm sure Matt Smith will do too after Who but they were nobodies before it.

So stop visiting the bookies, it's a waste of time and money. There's about a 10% chance that it'll be a BIGGG star taking on the role. That's it. I get people are excited but just wait till the actual reveal, have a few fantasy favourites in mind, and just enjoy the big moment when it comes.
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:36
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I can only think of the two Bakers and Matt Smith not being well known before they were cast. Certainly Tom Baker, I wasn't aware of Colin Baker.
Even Sylvester McCoy was on childrens TV. The rest, well known actors.
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:40
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Now I thought exactly the same thing until a minute ago. Why would they have a live reveal show for an actor who has starred in very little? Surely they'll question him on past roles and stuff like that. I know they're interviewing other Doctors but they could have just done they same as they did for Matt and just have the Doctor interviews recorded.

Something just doesn't seem right to me, I'm beginning to think the actor may be a little more well known than a lot of us were expecting.
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:42
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Now I thought exactly the same thing until a minute ago. Why would they have a live reveal show for an actor who has starred in very little? Surely they'll question him on past roles and stuff like that. I know they're interviewing other Doctors but they could have just done they same as they did for Matt and just have the Doctor interviews recorded.

Something just doesn't seem right to me, I'm beginning to think the actor may be a little more well known than a lot of us were expecting.
Or, **gulp** female.
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:42
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So stop visiting the bookies, it's a waste of time and money. There's about a 10% chance that it'll be a BIGGG star taking on the role. That's it. I get people are excited but just wait till the actual reveal, have a few fantasy favourites in mind, and just enjoy the big moment when it comes.
First of all I do not gamble in any way at all and I do consider bets such as royal names to be a waste of money. However I do not tell people what they can or cannot spend money on. If people want to gamble let them. The lottery has a very small chance, do you go around saying do not buy lottery tickets? Also where have you derived that 0.1 probability from? Completely made up figure. Now the auditions have finished and the doctor has been cast the true probability is either 0 or 1.
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:43
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I can only think of the two Bakers and Matt Smith not being well known before they were cast. Certainly Tom Baker, I wasn't aware of Colin Baker.
Even Sylvester McCoy was on childrens TV. The rest, well known actors.
Colin Baker had been very well known in the mid 1970s, as the main villain in long running Sunday night drama The Brothers.
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:43
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I think it will be a recognizable supporting actor, I'm hoping they go for a extremely different look from Matt smith. I would like him (and i think it will be a him) be a little less goofy. a tad more serious
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Old 02-08-2013, 16:48
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Colin Baker had been very well known in the mid 1970s, as the main villain in long running Sunday night drama The Brothers.
I wasn't sure about Colin Baker, as I didn't watch anything he was in before Doctor Who.
Tom Baker had been in the Sinbad film and a few TV series here and there. Hardly a household name.
Matt Smith I had seen in Ruby in the Smoke, but didn't register him in my mind.
David Tennant I had seen in Casanova and a couple of other things.So was aware.

So the only really relative newcomers were Tom Baker and Matt Smith. 2 out of 11.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:14
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I wasn't sure about Colin Baker, as I didn't watch anything he was in before Doctor Who.
Tom Baker had been in the Sinbad film and a few TV series here and there. Hardly a household name.
Matt Smith I had seen in Ruby in the Smoke, but didn't register him in my mind.
David Tennant I had seen in Casanova and a couple of other things.So was aware.

So the only really relative newcomers were Tom Baker and Matt Smith. 2 out of 11.
Tom had played Rasputin the film Nicholas and Alexandra, for which he received two Golden Glob award nominations. This should have led on to a successful film career, however, between Nicholas and Alexandra and being cast in Dr Who, Tom's career seemed to go a bit stale - the odd bit of telly and the occasional film (Sinbad being about the most successful).

Matt Smith I knew from Party Animals - a rather dull BBC mini-series about politics that was heralded as being the next This Life (it wasn't).

I'd never heard of David Tennant before he was cast, though I was vaguely aware of the fuss surrounding Casanova and his relatively minor part in one of the Harry Potter films.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:18
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Tom had played Rasputin the film Nicholas and Alexandra, for which he received two Golden Glob award nominations. This should have led on to a successful film career, however, between Nicholas and Alexandra and being cast in Dr Who, Tom's career seemed to go a bit stale - the odd bit of telly and the occasional film (Sinbad being about the most successful).

Matt Smith I knew from Party Animals - a rather dull BBC mini-series about politics that was heralded as being the next This Life (it wasn't).

I'd never heard of David Tennant before he was cast, though I was vaguely aware of the fuss surrounding Casanova and his relatively minor part in one of the Harry Potter films.
I knew Matt Smith from The Ruby in the Smoke and its sequel. He was also in The Street.

Tennant I knew from Blackpool, the musical thriller from 2004.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:27
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Tenant also made an appearance as an artist in the pilot episode of Vic and bobs remake of Randall and Hopkirk deceased. Which also starred Tom Baker
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:29
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I think a famous (ish) person can be cast in Dr Who but I think it tends to harm the show, maybe Moffat thinks otherwise.

In the modern Who age Chris Ecclestone wasn't a household name, he was known within the acting business of course.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:29
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Tenant also made an appearance as an artist in the pilot episode of Vic and bobs remake of Randall and Hopkirk deceased. Which also starred Tom Baker
Oh yeah!
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:33
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Nicholas and Alexandra is a great film, I only saw it for the first time a few years ago.
For the odd half hour or whatever Tom Baker is in it he steals the show.
Can't understand people who say he is limited,typecast maybe.
First time I was aware of him was Dr Who.
Tennant I knew from Casanova,Blackpool and a couple of other things.

I am not quite old enough to remember the careers of Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee before Dr Who. They were on a lot of peoples radar though.

So the unknown is a bit of a myth. Maybe unknown to children.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:40
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Eccleston and Davision were the quite well known names before they did Doctor Who.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:43
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Well I certainly saw them before Dr Who.
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Old 02-08-2013, 17:48
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Eccleston and Davision were the quite well known names before they did Doctor Who.
I think to relaunch the series in 2005 they HAD to have a famous face a la Eccleston.

Davison was well known yes, in fact, probably one of the most well known faces to be cast!
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Old 02-08-2013, 18:14
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Christopher Eccleston I knew from Shallow Grave and 28 Days Later. I thought both of those movies did pretty well, especially the latter, which was huge.

Paul McGann was the eponymous "I" in Withnail and I. I thought every person under the sun had seen that film, until I started posting on here.

The rest I had not seen anything of before they became The Doctor.
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Old 02-08-2013, 18:31
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They wouldn't be doing a live reveal show unless they knew it was someone that will be quite exciting.

Have a feeling it may even be quite a big name
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Old 02-08-2013, 18:40
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Tenant also made an appearance as an artist in the pilot episode of Vic and bobs remake of Randall and Hopkirk deceased. Which also starred Tom Baker
Mark Gatiss co-wrote a couple of episodes of that...
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Old 02-08-2013, 19:20
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The Doctors I remember from being 'The Doctor' previous to their roles (are you following me?) are:-

Peter Davison as Tristram in "All Creatures"
Colin Baker from "The Brothers" (I'm sure he was in a soap called "For Maddie With Love" on ITV's afternoon schedule too - I might be wrong)
Sylvester McCoy: Oh the joys of seeing him as a mad professor in ....was it 'Vision On' ? Or Tony Hart's show on BBC kids shows.
Paul McGann: The Monacled Mutineer, as well as being well known as the famous McGann Brothers.
Chris Ecclestone: Famous for many dramas on TV.
David Tennant: Casanova and Blackpool for BBC.

So most were 'well-known' before becoming Doctor Who. I actually hope this new guy is an 'unknown' and give him a fresh chance to become Doctor 12 in his own right!

Good luck to him!! (notice I said 'him' !)
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Old 02-08-2013, 19:26
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^^^^^ this was my point. Plus the first 3 Doctors were known before the program. To viewers around at the time.
Tom Baker and Matt Smith, not by me. Colin Baker, I wasn't aware of but others are.
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Old 02-08-2013, 19:32
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The Doctors I remember from being 'The Doctor' previous to their roles (are you following me?) are:-

Peter Davison as Tristram in "All Creatures"
Colin Baker from "The Brothers" (I'm sure he was in a soap called "For Maddie With Love" on ITV's afternoon schedule too - I might be wrong)
Sylvester McCoy: Oh the joys of seeing him as a mad professor in ....was it 'Vision On' ? Or Tony Hart's show on BBC kids shows.
Paul McGann: The Monacled Mutineer, as well as being well known as the famous McGann Brothers.
Chris Ecclestone: Famous for many dramas on TV.
David Tennant: Casanova and Blackpool for BBC.

So most were 'well-known' before becoming Doctor Who. I actually hope this new guy is an 'unknown' and give him a fresh chance to become Doctor 12 in his own right!

Good luck to him!! (notice I said 'him' !)
Sylvester McCoy was one of the "o men" in the kids tv show jigsaw. He was also a regular in Tiswas, he always used to jeykll and hyde transformation visual gag. he was great on this show
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Old 02-08-2013, 19:36
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Here he is pretending he's a car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAs0t9t7PBo
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Old 02-08-2013, 19:39
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oh and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb25-xxAAhY
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