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Loving Iain Lee destroying Callum
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Kewpee
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Please don't get me started on Judy James.. if I stated publicly what I wanted to. I'd be banned for life. Why not bring "Mystic Meg" on the show as an expert...same difference.”

She's a cod psychologist, with the emphasis on 'Cod'
MissDeeBlue
04-08-2013
I felt a little uncomfortable during Iain and Callum engaging

I also feel Iain mimicking Callums body language was very immature and uncalled for

I thought Iain was an asset to BB, now, I feel I have to remove the 'et'
sandydune
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by MissDeeBlue:
“I also feel Iain mimicking Callums body language was very immature and uncalled for
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I saw that also, the way he was mimicking hand movement.
Menk
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Daemon666:
“Callum certainly didn't beat him at his own game. How could he? The majority of the voting public sided with Ian Lee which is why Callum was sat there. All Ian Lee ever needed to do was remind Callum of that fact and game over, which he appended to several sentences in the exchange. Callum mostly sat there and 'over listened' giving Ian the intense eye contact creepy stare again in an attempt to be overly sincere. No one is that attentive, which is why it creeps a lot of people out ad looks false. Hence Ian's conclusion that Callum was still playing the game because to do any different would have confirmed the game playing inside the house.

Given the crowds continued distaste of Hazel, Callum certainly did a lot of work to get evicted ahead of her.”

Ridiculous! 'Over listened'! I've heard it all now!

Listening without interrupting and maintaining eye contact is simply polite. Anything else is your imagination.

Still chuckling.
Sweet FA
04-08-2013
Iain Lee is a bellend.
MissDeeBlue
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by sandydune:
“I saw that also, the way he was mimicking hand movement.”

Yep thats it. Bad doncha think Sand?
storminmike
04-08-2013
IMO what set this apart was the obvious character assasination OUTSIDE the house

If he was a bully then BB ought to have pulled him up inside the house. Given he was there till his eviction then the post mortem stance of a bully must be wrong

Judie James pulled no punches either. Now I din't expect soft soap but it was full on....almost as if they wanted him to flip

Then to pile it on they had a Dexter supporter on the panel who again suggested he was bullying....how did she get away with that? I can't recall that happening before

It was a Kangaroo court that served to distract from Hazel
Bacon&Eggs
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by storminmike:
“IMO what set this apart was the obvious character assasination OUTSIDE the house

If he was a bully then BB ought to have pulled him up inside the house. Given he was there till his eviction then the post mortem stance of a bully must be wrong

Judie James pulled no punches either. Now I din't expect soft soap but it was full on....almost as if they wanted him to flip

Then to pile it on they had a Dexter supporter on the panel who again suggested he was bullying....how did she get away with that? I can't recall that happening before

It was a Kangaroo court that served to distract from Hazel”


BB can't be as interpretive as viewer's and bots when calling someone a bully. They we're right to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not sure why you think Ian Lee or Judy J should temper their judgement's though?
Attia_Ash
04-08-2013
It's creepy when Callum over shake's his head and make's those mock mmmm responses when someone's telling him something he does not like. Horrible man. So glad to have him off my screen for sure.
Bacon&Eggs
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Attia_Ash:
“It's creepy when Callum over shake's his head and make's those mock mmmm responses when someone's telling him something he does not like. Horrible man. So glad to have him off my screen for sure.”

Glad i'm not alone in feeling uncomfy every time he goes ummmmm, ummmmm.
storminmike
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“BB can't be as interpretive as viewer's and bots when calling someone a bully. They we're right to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Not sure why you think Ian Lee or Judy J should temper their judgement's though?”

BB and BOTS are the same organisation...they can;t have it both ways....espcially swerving to slanderous commentary then "laughing it off"

I think it was the scale of the attack that surprised me. It didn't come across as probing as all other panel sessions have....it had a darker edge IMO

I don't remember Daley getting a face to face panel bashing for he had been found guilty already in the house.

This was BOTS sort of taking the law into their own hands and throwing the "bully card" around with abandon.

If we leave Ian Lee or Judy J out of the equation then what of the Dexter related panelist.....this I take real issue with as its never been done before....if she'd not said "bully" then fair enough but that's still stretching the balance....but she did....and she wasn't there for cheap shots or laughs as paid employees
allie4
04-08-2013
Could anyone tell me where I could find the link for this Callum/Iain interview??
I've tried so many times on Demand 5 and it won't play! Driving me nuts!!!!
Thank you!
bill deburg
04-08-2013
Why isn't Judy James apologising as well?
BigBroRand
04-08-2013
Originally Posted by Purves Grundy:
“Judi James (the blonde to his left) is NOT an expert. She has no relevant degree in psychology. She's merely a self-appointed "Body Language expert" who essentially patroninsingly spouts subjective, petty biased opinions and wraps them in pseudo-evolutionary psychobabble. Her opinion on this issue has the same academic credibility as that of a plumber or wheelwright.

Iain Lee is a low ranking TV presenter/"comedian" whose main claim to fame is being the 5th most popular member of the late, unlamented satirical news programme "The 11 O'Clock Show" - Channel 4's tepid response to Armando Iannuci's superior "Friday Night Armistice". But to be fair to him he never claims his opinion on a HM is objectively valid. Judi James does.”

Meanwhile, Callum has a PhD in stability.
BigBroRand
04-08-2013
People seem to be struggling with the fact that one can be an "expert" without a degree in anything.

If Judy James has practise in this area sufficient enough to be hired as an expert for TV (however minor the programme) she is considered more an expert to comment on Big Brother than any of us.

I don't love the lady, but shouting "Show me your credentials" does not immediately negate that she is an expert in what she claims.

Everyone has personal prejudices unless they're paid the big bucks to ignore them (psychiatrists, police) so let's put the pitchforks away.
Bacon&Eggs
05-08-2013
Originally Posted by storminmike:
“BB and BOTS are the same organisation...they can;t have it both ways....espcially swerving to slanderous commentary then "laughing it off"

I think it was the scale of the attack that surprised me. It didn't come across as probing as all other panel sessions have....it had a darker edge IMO

I don't remember Daley getting a face to face panel bashing for he had been found guilty already in the house.

This was BOTS sort of taking the law into their own hands and throwing the "bully card" around with abandon.

If we leave Ian Lee or Judy J out of the equation then what of the Dexter related panelist.....this I take real issue with as its never been done before....if she'd not said "bully" then fair enough but that's still stretching the balance....but she did....and she wasn't there for cheap shots or laughs as paid employees”

A Dexter related Panelist? i only saw the segment where Ian Lee called him a bully. Anyway i think i know what your saying, and i think your right. Bots is biased. Not a "dark edge", although admittedly the word vindictive springs to mind. Maybe Bots ganging up on what they saw as a bully, picking critical guest's, choosing the right questions, all in the name of...... It's not very professional and you have a good point here i think.

I found Bots production's judgement as fair this time, nevertheless it's a damaging unproven allegation. Perhaps for that reason it should not be allowed/encouraged, by a responsible broadcasting company. Hmm!

As for Ian & Judy, given a green light to speak as they find by production and unless their being dishonest or insincere due to a production agenda then they have the right to call him a bully imo. Under the specific understanding that Callum signed up to be fairly judged and that is what they are doing.
Dr.G
23-07-2014
Edit: No idea how I replied to this thread. Literally no idea.
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