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When do we think UltraHD will become commonplace on TV like HD is?
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Nigel Goodwin
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“Mainly on static pictures though. The higher the spatial resolution at any given frame rate the worse will movement look in percentage terms.”

As you can't see the resolution in a fast moving scene, what does it matter?.

There's this 'fiction' around that 720P is 'better for sport', yet it seems unlikely anyone could tell the difference in double blind tests.
Deacon1972
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“As you can't see the resolution in a fast moving scene, what does it matter?.

There's this 'fiction' around that 720P is 'better for sport', yet it seems unlikely anyone could tell the difference in double blind tests.”

I remember seeing a demo on OLED vs LCD, both were playing a LP spinning at three speeds, 33, 45 and 78, motion resolution was far superior on OLED on all three speeds, it took the viewing experience up another level. For anyone after quality images I'd say it does matter.
Nigel Goodwin
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“I remember seeing a demo on OLED vs LCD, both were playing a LP spinning at three speeds, 33, 45 and 78, motion resolution was far superior on OLED on all three speeds, it took the viewing experience up another level. For anyone after quality images I'd say it does matter.”

I'd be rather dubious about a demonstration intended specifically to make OLED look good

Also, what on earth has that got to do with frame rate?.
Deacon1972
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“I'd be rather dubious about a demonstration intended specifically to make OLED look good

Also, what on earth has that got to do with frame rate?.”

Always the sceptic.


Nothing to do with frame rate, everything to do with motion resolution.
Nigel Goodwin
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“Always the sceptic.
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And usually correct

Anyway, what's happened to OLED? - it's all gone very quiet again - and presumably it's not capable of 4K, just as Plasma isn't.

Quote:
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Nothing to do with frame rate, everything to do with motion resolution.”

So why post about it here?, where it has no relevance to the discussion?.
Deacon1972
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“And usually correct

Anyway, what's happened to OLED? - it's all gone very quiet again - and presumably it's not capable of 4K, just as Plasma isn't.
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Sony can do OLED @ 4k, thought you would have known that.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-4k-oled-tv_TV_review

Panasonic also do 4k over OLED.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/panaso...d-tv_TV_review

Plasma are also capable of 4k.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/11/thi...s-are-made-of/

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
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So why post about it here?, where it has no relevance to the discussion?.”

It was in reply to your reference to resolution/fast motion in that you can't see it so what does it matter - OLED can show superior motion resolution and it would matter to anyone after the best possible pq.
Nigel Goodwin
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“It was in reply to your reference to resolution/fast motion in that you can't see it so what does it matter - OLED can show superior motion resolution and it would matter to anyone after the best possible pq.”

But still has no bearing at all on possible frame rates - nor does a rigged demo to make OLED look good have much meaning

Not that I'm denying that OLED 'should' have better motion handling than LCD, just that the demo probably bears little resemblance to reality.
Deacon1972
14-08-2013
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“But still has no bearing at all on possible frame rates - nor does a rigged demo to make OLED look good have much meaning

Not that I'm denying that OLED 'should' have better motion handling than LCD, just that the demo probably bears little resemblance to reality.”

We must be on different pages because, increased frame rate would improve motion resolution on LCD/Plasma, something OLED does purely through it's screen technology.

The demo was done privately through an independent retailer, it wasn't for the public - each display was setup identically - your scepticism is miss placed on this occasion.
call100
14-08-2013
In case you missed this
Also, BBC and Sky are working together to set a standard for TV's to have the UHD mark.
Things are moving along nicely...
MrGiles2
16-08-2013
I have been reading quite a bit about 4K. Currently it is far too expensive for most homes, but, if the demand is there within the next two years, prices will plummet. Having said that, I cannot imagine too many homes replacing their current flat LCD, LED or Plasma screens if they haven't had them that long.

As for 3D, I have always said it is a fad and won't take off in the long term. Although, there is a possibility that if 4K does take off, the current stock of 3D TVs will be sold at knock down prices, perhaps below the £150 mark.
Nigel Goodwin
16-08-2013
Originally Posted by MrGiles2:
“ Although, there is a possibility that if 4K does take off, the current stock of 3D TVs will be sold at knock down prices, perhaps below the £150 mark.”

Sorry, crazy idea

All that would happen in such a case is that the manufacturers would phase out non-4K sets in the event 4K set's became the norm.
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