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From the horses mouth (regarding Twitter)
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lady_xanax
23-01-2014
I only use Twitter to look for job postings and for marketing purposes. Hate reading celebrity tweets- they sound so infantile. What is it about social networks that makes adults sound like babies? Even teenagers write in full words!
johnnysaucepn
23-01-2014
Originally Posted by lady_xanax:
“I only use Twitter to look for job postings and for marketing purposes. Hate reading celebrity tweets- they sound so infantile.”

I guess it depends which celebrities you follow.

Still, there's one thing that can be said about Twitter - you do get a far better idea of what one of these untouchable media darlings are actually like. For good or bad.
Irma Bunt
23-01-2014
The usual nonsense trotted out by the "I-don't-use-Twitter-and-look-down-on-those-who-do" brigade.

I have no interest in what celebrities and their followers had for breakfast, or whatever. But as a frequent traveller, I use it to keep up to date with the train companies I use, and follow reputable news sites. Quite what the problem with that is, I struggle to grasp.
lady_xanax
23-01-2014
Originally Posted by Irma Bunt:
“I have no interest in what celebrities and their followers had for breakfast, or whatever. But as a frequent traveller, I use it to keep up to date with the train companies I use, and follow reputable news sites. Quite what the problem with that is, I struggle to grasp.”

Yes, I do that as well. Short factual updates- great. Marketing- useful tool. Banal musings- not.

Personally, I have no interest in celebrities' personal lives. I like Colin Firth because I think he is a good actor. I have a lot of interest in him as an actor, and hey, maybe even a little girlish crush, but his private life doesn't concern me. Particularly when a celebrity's personal life mars the quality of their work, or how I perceive their work.
comedyfish
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by TheSilentFez:
“Twitter is a pointless outlet for people to spout inane rubbish which in normal conversation no rational person would be interested in.”

the only difference between twitter and somewhere like DS is you choose whose drivel you listen too..
Abomination
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by Irma Bunt:
“The usual nonsense trotted out by the "I-don't-use-Twitter-and-look-down-on-those-who-do" brigade.”

This basically, and that's coming from someone who doesn't even particularly like the site. I have an account, I post on it now and again (a couple of times a week on average) but mostly I do it to see its output. Many train companies update on there, I've reserved a table for a group meal over it, and some celebrities are genuinely interesting and worth following. As a small anecdote, I've enjoyed a nice, brief three-way conversation with Omid Djalili and Tracy Ann Oberman on there during that Miner's Crisis in Chile. I also had a small laugh with Al Murray once, which is a nice fond memory.

My issue with Twitter is that such a restricting character limit means it's hard to say anything substantial, but then I am more oriented to the "forum" way of life, I suppose. Generally there's no problem with it and anyone who openly judges somebody else off the back of where they decide to interact with other people clearly has even less to talk about.
TEDR
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by Irma Bunt:
“The usual nonsense trotted out by the "I-don't-use-Twitter-and-look-down-on-those-who-do" brigade.

I have no interest in what celebrities and their followers had for breakfast, or whatever. But as a frequent traveller, I use it to keep up to date with the train companies I use, and follow reputable news sites. Quite what the problem with that is, I struggle to grasp.”

I don't even have an account but I use it for essentially those things too. It does what RSS feeds were meant to do, but without requiring you to dive headlong into some nerd's pet project of a piece of software.
shortcrust
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by PencilBreath:
“celeb's never really answer you on twitter. I got a reply from one of the bid tv presenters but none of the others listen. i can't really blame the boy.”

They don't have time! Many get hundreds of comments/questions about every post and then tend to get abuse when they don't respond from nutters who take it personally.
shortcrust
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by comedyfish:
“the only difference between twitter and somewhere like DS is you choose whose drivel you listen too..”

Quite! Always makes me chuckle when people on forums slate twitter etc.
DICKENS99
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by saladfingers81:
“I cannot wait for the day Twitter falls out of favor. It is the domain of self obsessed celebs, the terminally uninteresting and One Direction fans. It serves no purpose except to perpetuate the stupidity of some sections of the human race. All our ability for wonder and intelligence and we willingly limit our capacity to express ourselves into crude sound bites.”

Well if we're going to be pompous about it, I prefer to think of it as establishing the meritocracy of the apercu...
The_abbott
24-01-2014
if celebrity's didn't use twitter it would never had taken off. Now its the hope that some celebrity might talk to them or retweet them so they can brag about it.

I am glad he's not bothering with twitter because it really is a pointless media IMO.
icemetallica8
24-01-2014
Remember when people use to read newspapers on the toilet? Twitter is the 21st century version of this.
Wiwik_Anggraini
24-01-2014
What Twitter does, and many other media, is the nature of human beings. It shows how self obsessed we are, how obsessed we are, how stubborn we are, how stupid we are, etc, etc. And that does not only go for the people with a Twitter account, but also for the people who don't have a Twitter account and feel the need to comment on it.

My point is, it's hardly ever the technology that is the problem, but the people. And I don't see that changing any time soon. Just like with books, LP's/CD's/etc, we just have to get used to it (and we will), or it falls out of favor (or this will).

Come with constructive criticism, not that people are stupid, we established that ages ago.

I don't like Twitter much either. It used to be because I kept losing track of conversations that seemed to be scattered all over Twitter. Now I don't like it much, because I still find the setup too fleeting. I like a good discussion with well constructed arguments. It's very hard to have that on Twitter. But Twitter is developing. You can make a point longer than 140 characters and you can add more and more sorts of attachments. I only use Twitter to remain updated. Most of the tweets I don't read.

Now, if all the people would go away, Twitter would be perfect. j/k, just being sarcastic.
bokonon
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by Wiwik_Anggraini:
“What Twitter does, and many other media, is the nature of human beings. It shows how self obsessed we are, how obsessed we are, how stubborn we are, how stupid we are, etc, etc. And that does not only go for the people with a Twitter account, but also for the people who don't have a Twitter account and feel the need to comment on it.

My point is, it's hardly ever the technology that is the problem, but the people. And I don't see that changing any time soon. Just like with books, LP's/CD's/etc, we just have to get used to it (and we will), or it falls out of favor (or this will).

Come with constructive criticism, not that people are stupid, we established that ages ago.

I don't like Twitter much either. It used to be because I kept losing track of conversations that seemed to be scattered all over Twitter. Now I don't like it much, because I still find the setup too fleeting. I like a good discussion with well constructed arguments. It's very hard to have that on Twitter. But Twitter is developing. You can make a point longer than 140 characters and you can add more and more sorts of attachments. I only use Twitter to remain updated. Most of the tweets I don't read.

Now, if all the people would go away, Twitter would be perfect. j/k, just being sarcastic.”

That's just how I feel about public transport.

But I have to say I don't agree that social media just reflects normal human discourse. In my normal everyday life I have to say I find people are terribly polite and reasonable. My general impression of these sort of online media is the opposite, although the atmosphere in here is generally OK.
jerseyporter
24-01-2014
Originally Posted by brouhaha:
“Good for him. Twitter is for self-obsessed morons.”

That's a huge, and wrong, generalisation. However, I have a twitter account. I don't post tweets myself, and I don't 'follow' celebrities. I do follow local news websites for updates when I'm too busy to read the local evening paper and don't have the radio on; I follow the Jersey Police and local bus company because it's the quickest and easiest way to find out where the accidents are, which traffic lights have failed, which roads are affected by roadworks on a daily basis, whether my daughters' bus home from school is running on time etc.

I also quite like cooking and I follow a few twitter accounts of cooking magazines, and I follow F1 so I've been following the news recently about the new car launches.

I'm not sure how any of that makes me self-obsessed or a moron - perhaps you can enlighten me? Or are you making a huge generalisation without considering that there is black and white at either end of any spectrum, but 90% of grey in the middle?
Zeppelyn56
25-01-2014
Wow, and all this because Peter Capaldi doesn't have a twitter account. If ever a thread needed deleting its this one.
Philip_Lamb
26-01-2014
Don't blame him, all that'd happen is he'd be flooded with more comments about the show than he can answer. I just hope he provides commentary on the dvds, I always wondered why Matt Smith never did.
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