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Old 06-08-2013, 22:40
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Hi,

Personally I think she is a good young actress, could do with some improvements but overall she's ok, can't say the same for her brother Chewie Branning who is abysmal,

Few things that I like about her,

She's got a good heart,
She makes friends easy,
She has better communication than most people on the square,
She's plays a good thief and a manipulator,

I was wondering if people hate her because of Derek and Joey?

She would do much better on her own,

With Peter Beale by her side, and have more developed friendships with cousins Lauren and Whitney,
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Old 06-08-2013, 22:41
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Does she get hate? I didn't think she did.
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Old 06-08-2013, 22:42
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Does she get hate? I didn't think she did.
Not sure,

everytime there is a axe thread, Alice is always on every list!
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Old 06-08-2013, 22:45
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Not sure,

everytime there is a axe thread, Alice is always on every list!
Wouldn't worry look at Corrie axe threads people actually have legends like Rita and Ken on the lists.
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Old 06-08-2013, 22:48
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Is she still stealing stuff? That storyline came out of nowhere and then was dropped.
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Old 06-08-2013, 23:40
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I just find her boring and just not a very good character/actress in general really.
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Old 06-08-2013, 23:41
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Her brother.
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Old 07-08-2013, 00:11
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Think she's quite interesting actually.

The actress seems to have found her feet after a nervous start.

I think getting Alice involved with Michael/Janine was a great idea
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Old 07-08-2013, 00:43
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Crap character played by a crap actress. The character is an absolute dullard, as is her brother Joey. Two of the worst creations of Bryan Kirkwood.
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Old 07-08-2013, 00:45
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Is she still stealing stuff? That storyline came out of nowhere and then was dropped.
Continuity never was Lorraine Newman's strong point.
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Old 07-08-2013, 00:48
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She has got better but I think DTC will axe both Alice & Joey...
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:03
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She has got better but I think DTC will axe both Alice & Joey...
I really hope you're right. Alice has about as much charisma as a slug. Joey belongs in the jungle where he can beat his chest and swing from the trees like Tarzan.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:17
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I really hope you're right. Alice has about as much charisma as a slug. Joey belongs in the jungle where he can beat his chest and swing from the trees like Tarzan.
Whats your views on Tamwar?
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:29
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She's dumb and talks like a little girl.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:33
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She's dumb and talks like a little girl.
Your describing Poppy?
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:40
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Poppy is great - very refreshing but get her away from FatBoy...
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:52
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Crap character played by a crap actress. The character is an absolute dullard, as is her brother Joey. Two of the worst creations of Bryan Kirkwood.
Care to elaborate?
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:56
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Hi,

Personally I think she is a good young actress, could do with some improvements but overall she's ok, can't say the same for her brother Chewie Branning who is abysmal,

Few things that I like about her,

She's got a good heart,

She makes friends easy,
She has better communication than most people on the square,
She's plays a good thief and a manipulator,
How can she have a "good heart" and yet do bad things, being a thief and manipulator? The two don't tally or make sense because the writers have failed to explain this co-existence in Alice's character, and I think that is why some on here are ambivalent toward her.

Some will say they like her for the idea that she has "a good heart". Some will dislike her because simply having "a good heart" means nothing if the character then succumbs to being "a thief and manipulator" w/o the viewer seeing how they struggle or are struggling not to give in to that side of their nature. Ultimately, some will be ambivalent toward her because as a character Alice is neither here nor there when it comes to unique drama or characterisation.

There was the kleptomania storyline that came and went. This was an opportunity for her to come into her own: a so-called "good heart" having to face and deal with a situation that dares to turn her over. But nothing came of it, so Alice remains a blank and bland piece of canvas doing nothing.

They could have used the kleptomania s/l as an outlet to explore her grief over Derek which on top of the stress with the Janine/Michael fallout merely exacerbates her situation. This could also help viewers understand this idea of being "a thief and a manipulator", making this assumption more complex that we think. But because Derek annoyed the hell out of many (or probably most) viewers (because he was written so poorly), no-one cares about her grieving over a character they found irritating anyway, and so that route to explore Alice's character is made completely redundant. Alice is once again left a blank, bland and completely boring canvas waiting for a bit of colour, some character, a personality of any kind.

The same could be said of Joey. The only reason Joey and Alice are in the show is because of Derek. Derek's story was so badly planned out, storylined or whatever that whatever and whoever followed on from him and his story would also feel the effects of his badly planned, poorly drawn out narrative. Ergo, Joey and Alice are seen by some as completely pointless. Joey had daddy issues, but daddy is dead and Joey seemed to have moved on because he now exists solely as a romantic trope for his fangirls (i.e. his cousin, Lauren; Lucy; Whitney). A similar device will be employed on Alice (i.e.dour Tamwar).

For me, it's not so much that I don't like Alice as I really don't care for her one way or other because the writers have made her so that I just don't care about her or care for her. So she has a good heart, but why is her heart different to all other people in the Square? So she is a "thief and a manipulator", but why is she a "thief and manipulator" and why should I care, because in real life "thieves and manipulators" are considered characteristics to depise and loathe, not like or love. Why should I as a viewer regard being a thief and manipulator as something "good", even if Alice is a dab hand at being one?
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Old 07-08-2013, 16:01
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One of soap's sexiest women. We can't afford to lose people like her.
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Old 07-08-2013, 16:06
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One of soap's sexiest women. We can't afford to lose people like her.
Exactly what I was thinking!!
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