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Old 06-08-2013, 22:59
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I don't really see Al Pacino making another decent film, never mind a great one. Fair enough, he is now approaching his mid-seventies and his back catalogue is second to very few.

I am reminded of a comment someone made once about Pacino, though. He began as this fresh-faced kid (of thirty-something, it must be said) in The Godfather - quietly spoken, sensitive and reflective. Now whenever you see him he just bellows everything in really strange, staccato monosyllables.

I think this Pacino started around the time of Sea of Love in 1989. His career had taken a bit of a nosedive with several duff movies, and Pacino had been smoking heavily for a number of years and doing more stage work. So, most of the 1980s had passed since Scarface, his last big hit. By the time of Sea of Love Pacino's voice had become the basis for what we know today - much more barking and guttural.

Anyway, it's some 16 years since Donnie Brasco (but what a performance), and all we've seen Pacino do of any real note is grow a very silly beard.
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Old 06-08-2013, 23:06
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Robert De Niro.

At one time he was considered one of the best actors of his generation, now hes doing terrible TV ads in the UK and tragic comedy films.
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Old 06-08-2013, 23:13
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^Two incredible actors right there, who for reasons best known to themselves took their feet right off the gas.

I'm going to watch Heat again soon, I can sense it.
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Old 06-08-2013, 23:17
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Robert De Niro.

At one time he was considered one of the best actors of his generation, now hes doing terrible TV ads in the UK and tragic comedy films.
That's Pacino in the Sky advert or are you talking about another UK tv advert?.
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Old 06-08-2013, 23:18
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Robert De Niro.

At one time he was considered one of the best actors of his generation, now hes doing terrible TV ads in the UK and tragic comedy films.
What TV ad is De Niro doing? I know Pacino is doing the Sky Broadband one but I not seen a De Niro one.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:00
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I see your point but De Niro was Oscar nominated last year for Silver Linings Playbook, a movie i thoroughly enjoyed and he was very good in!
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:50
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^ Indeed.

And besides, after that Rocky and Bullwinkle film - which really has to be seen to be believed - surely it could only be uphill for De Niro?
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:33
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I think this Pacino started around the time of Sea of Love in 1989. His career had taken a bit of a nosedive with several duff movies, and Pacino had been smoking heavily for a number of years and doing more stage work. So, most of the 1980s had passed since Scarface, his last big hit. By the time of Sea of Love Pacino's voice had become the basis for what we know today - much more barking and guttural.
For the record, there was, surprisingly, only one film between Scarface and Sea of Love - the notorious bomb Revolution which nearly killed off the British film industry on its own, if stories are to be believed.

IIRC, I never thought Revolution was really that bad when I saw it. Another case of the 'financial disaster = terrible film' mindset perhaps. But it kept Pacino away for a few years it seems.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:20
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That's Pacino in the Sky advert or are you talking about another UK tv advert?.
This could have been me. I'm always getting these two mixed up! I can correctly identify them, but I have to really think about it.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:20
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Mel Gibson.....for various reasons.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:31
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I disagree about Robert. He made quite the comeback at this year's oscars.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:38
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Ray Winstone. Watching him in Scum, it's hard to believe it's the same guy who plays a loud cockney stereotype in every single film (or advert) these days.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:48
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For the record, there was, surprisingly, only one film between Scarface and Sea of Love - the notorious bomb Revolution which nearly killed off the British film industry on its own, if stories are to be believed.
That's right, I was thinking Author, Author was after Scarface but it was before.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:53
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:34
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I was thinking the other day Russell Crowe seems to phone them in nowadays. Maybe he was never a great actor to begin with, but I remember him being much more full of energy and life. I love that SF film he did with Denzel.
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Old 07-08-2013, 12:07
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In terms of films, rather than acting ability, John Cusack .

His early films are amongst some of my favourites ever (e.g. The Sure Thing, Say Anything), even in his middle years he turns out some fantastic offerings (e.g. Gross Point Blank, Being John Malkovich, High Fidelity).

But these days his film output is far more dross than gloss.
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Old 07-08-2013, 13:28
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What TV ad is De Niro doing? I know Pacino is doing the Sky Broadband one but I not seen a De Niro one.
Yep, its Pacino, not De Niro, but that doesn't detract from the descent from films like Goodfellas into the doldrums of The Fockers....
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Old 07-08-2013, 14:03
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Bruce Willis. Crap movies, crappier sequels, awkward interviews.

I heard he's been replaced by Harrison Ford for Expendables 3. Stallone said on twitter that Willis is "greedy and lazy."
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Old 07-08-2013, 15:13
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Mel Gibson.....for various reasons.
Yep, we could have a long discussion about that one! Used to be my 80s heartthrob....

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Old 07-08-2013, 22:41
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Johnny Depp. Just quit already and save us all from your crappy Pirates films!
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Old 07-08-2013, 23:29
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Tara Reid. I think American Pie Reunion was her last film made with a decent budget.
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Old 07-08-2013, 23:33
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I quite liked him in that black comedy about a man who's deluded he's a vampire.
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Old 08-08-2013, 00:27
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Harsh on De Niro. Yes, he's been in a few rubbish films since 2000 but he always does a fine job irrespective of the quality of the film itself. Not many actors can do that.

For me it would have to be Johnny Depp. I enjoyed his performances in his earlier films but I don't enjoy most of his recent films at all. Shame.
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Old 08-08-2013, 00:48
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I don't really see Al Pacino making another decent film, never mind a great one. Fair enough, he is now approaching his mid-seventies and his back catalogue is second to very few.

I am reminded of a comment someone made once about Pacino, though. He began as this fresh-faced kid (of thirty-something, it must be said) in The Godfather - quietly spoken, sensitive and reflective. Now whenever you see him he just bellows everything in really strange, staccato monosyllables.

I think this Pacino started around the time of Sea of Love in 1989. His career had taken a bit of a nosedive with several duff movies, and Pacino had been smoking heavily for a number of years and doing more stage work. So, most of the 1980s had passed since Scarface, his last big hit. By the time of Sea of Love Pacino's voice had become the basis for what we know today - much more barking and guttural.

Anyway, it's some 16 years since Donnie Brasco (but what a performance), and all we've seen Pacino do of any real note is grow a very silly beard.
Pacino is undeniably a lot more miss than hit these days, but he can still turn in a very good performance with the right material, just have a look at some of his collaborations with HBO in the likes of 'You Don't Know Jack' and 'Phil Spector', he's extremely good in the role of Jack Kevorkian in the former.

Personally I'd say the obvious actor who's career is in a downward spiral is Johnny Depp, he used to be a fantastic actor, but since Pirates of the Caribbean he just seems to be stuck playing the same Captain Jack role in every film. Hopefully he leaves that tired old schtick behind now that The Lone Ranger has bombed, maybe he'll realise that we've had enough of that type of character...
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:04
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In terms of films, rather than acting ability, John Cusack .

His early films are amongst some of my favourites ever (e.g. The Sure Thing, Say Anything), even in his middle years he turns out some fantastic offerings (e.g. Gross Point Blank, Being John Malkovich, High Fidelity).

But these days his film output is far more dross than gloss.
If you look at his work over the past year and the films he's got coming up, he's certainly on the comeback trail.
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