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Old 24-01-2005, 13:19
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Originally Posted by Mister Al
Apart from the Tickle, who clearly should have beaten Cameron into the ground (metaphorically), and would have done too if it weren't for the stupidity of the voting public.
and the same stupid public made bez the winner
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:28
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Can someone tell me what I can refer the whatevertheirnameis now to?
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:31
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Originally Posted by Iknowicould
Big Ron would be happy with your comments as he holds the same views as you and Doc.
I thought Rawham wrote a fair and well-balanced post - I guess that makes me a foaming racist as well.

And I was happy Bez won, so I'm also a low-life druggie scum according to another thread.

Hurrah! I'm having a good day. :yawn:
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:33
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Originally Posted by Doc Shmok
Can someone tell me what I can refer the whatevertheirnameis now to?
Coffee, chocolate, taupe, mink, jet ......
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:33
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I think the fact we`ve not had a black winner (YET!) is down to the contestants and their character.......nothing to do with racism.

I think Victor stood a reasonable chance of winning BB5 until he had the wedding day arguement with pathetic Shell. That changed a lot of people`s views on him.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:34
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How many coloured people are there in the UK? What's the percentage? It'll be higher in the south than in the north. Here in Scotland there's actually still very few black people indeed, quite a few asians I suppose. Considering there have only been 5 proper big brothers, I dont think one in 5 in UK is coloured, it will be less than that. So it is not statistically significant that there have been no coloured winners yet.

The original post is offensive and ignorant.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:37
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Originally Posted by Histeria
Nadia was hardly whiter than white - so we've had a hispanic winner.
Yes, but as far I understood the ones complaining elsewhere would be referred to (at least in recent US movies) in the USA as afro-americans.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Doc Shmok
Can someone tell me what I can refer the whatevertheirnameis now to?
That really would depend on whether you are referring to black people, Asians, mixed-race people or gingers*

Here's a thought: why not just drop the entire subject?


*nb I am one. So I can say that. Ner.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:40
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Originally Posted by weebear1974
That really would depend on whether you are referring to black people, Asians, mixed-race people or gingers*

Here's a thought: why not just drop the entire subject?


*nb I am one. So I can say that. Ner.
Oh babe, life's pretty sh!t when you have ginger hair isn't it? (((((weebear1974))))
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:40
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Nadia was tanned I think. If you saw pictures of him pre-op he looked quite pale (and stubbly).
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:42
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The ones running here in Scotland into the tanshops would be called orange, maybe I ment them ?
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:43
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Look the main point is there is less than 20% coloured people in the UK so you cant expect to have had a winner yet! It gets beyond a joke when coloured people (particularly black people I have noticed) start complaining about this sort of thing. Reality check time.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:43
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Originally Posted by PamelaL
Oh babe, life's pretty sh!t when you have ginger hair isn't it? (((((weebear1974))))
Somehow, I have come to terms with the stigma. That and some rather nice blonde highlights.

Hey... no ginger has ever won Big Brother! Maybe I should start my own thread!
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:44
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When I'm born I'm BLACK!
When I'm hot I'm BLACK!
When I'm cold I'm BLACK!
When I'm sick I'm BLACK!
When I'm old I'm BLACK!
When I die I'm BLACK!
When U are born U are PINK!
When U are hot U are RED!
When U are cold U are BLUE!
When U are sick U get GREEN!
When U are old even GRAY!
When U die U become PURPLE!

Yet u got the nerve to call me coloured!
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:46
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Originally Posted by Iknowicould
White is a colour too.
yeah, camaron was the first 'coloured' winner wasn't he - a sort of pale-blue/whitish??




still, this argument has no way out.

firstly it's political history & controversy and some religion that has caused a lot of racism, it has ingrained the word 'coloured' into a negative term for western society, to the point that you can't really use any term at all do describe someone's skin colour or their race/origin/background/creed without some kind of presumed intolerance. people need to be re-educated, i'm sure we've moved on since that set of issues first arose.

it's a similar issue as what's presently happening with the symbol of the swastika (hot potato!). people need re-educating.

secondly in a show like this - it is just an entertainment program whether rigged or not - some of the audience will complain that no 'coloured' people have won and what an issue this is, and some of the audience will say - when a 'coloured' person does win - that likewise it was a fix because endemol had to add this label to their portfolio. not unlike an hr manager being given their objectives of hiring x number of people of certain backgrounds (or race, or gender etc) and failing if it's not achieved.

i myself am of mixed background; both parents from the same race, but i was born & raised in another country and i'm living in a different country now. whilst my skin tone is caucasian/white i'm discriminated against due to my dialect, hence presumed race. it's the same discrimination, though people don't even have to engage in conversation to observe a 'coloured' person in order to make up their own little minds.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:48
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Why are people talking about racist when there is no evidence of this from the BB winners so far????????????????????

Talk about creating a problem where there isnt one.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:49
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Originally Posted by weebear1974
Hey... no ginger has ever won Big Brother! Maybe I should start my own thread!
If people wouldn't be so tightarsed about the subject asking about ginger or black would be the same and there would be no big deal. Even the musical "Hair" made a mockery of that with "I am pink" in the 70s. Nothing has moved on since then it appears.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:50
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Originally Posted by weebear1974
Somehow, I have come to terms with the stigma. That and some rather nice blonde highlights.

Hey... no ginger has ever won Big Brother! Maybe I should start my own thread!
Actually just between you and I, some men with red hair look quite dishy.

And yes start your own thread.
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:51
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Originally Posted by Doc Shmok
If people wouldn't be so tightarsed about the subject asking about ginger or black would be the same and there would be no big deal. Even the musical "Hair" made a mockery of that with "I am pink" in the 70s. Nothing has moved on since then it appears.
What's wrong with refering to colours?
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:51
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Originally Posted by weebear1974
Here's a thought: why not just drop the entire subject?
Because some people have got new soap boxes and want to use them!
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:55
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Originally Posted by PamelaL

And yes start your own thread.
I just did
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Old 24-01-2005, 13:57
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Originally Posted by Doc Shmok
If people wouldn't be so tightarsed about the subject asking about ginger or black would be the same and there would be no big deal. Even the musical "Hair" made a mockery of that with "I am pink" in the 70s. Nothing has moved on since then it appears.
Sorry to nit-pick, but Hair originated in the 1960s. (Of course, they do say that, if you remember the 60s, you weren't there. )
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Old 24-01-2005, 14:02
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Originally Posted by lulu g
Sorry to nit-pick, but Hair originated in the 1960s. (Of course, they do say that, if you remember the 60s, you weren't there. )
You are right, I heard it first in the 70's. 60's I can only remember the moonlanding.
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Old 24-01-2005, 14:03
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Originally Posted by Doc Shmok
The usual PC minefield ...

I wasn't aware that c.... was also on the list of non usable names.
its been non-usable for over 20 years......
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Old 24-01-2005, 14:06
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Originally Posted by lulu g
Sorry to nit-pick, but Hair originated in the 1960s. (Of course, they do say that, if you remember the 60s, you weren't there. )
hey, i don't remember the 60s and i wasn't there

i'm a 70s child
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