http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...ce/default.stm
the bbc's section on information re race in britain
the bbc's section on information re race in britain
Any black winner ever?
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Originally Posted by Doc Shmok:
“I am busy checking myself for 666 tattoos/marks.
”
“I am busy checking myself for 666 tattoos/marks.
”
It's the horns you should be worrying about!
I just checked and I think the non-white population is more around 7% rather than the 12% that I said earlier.
Originally Posted by Shelley:
“It's the horns you should be worrying about!”
“It's the horns you should be worrying about!
”
I do, next time I see my tailor.
Originally Posted by BigMerv:
“I'm sure the OP didn't mean anything bad by his post, but it amazes me how quick we are to condemn him.
”
“I'm sure the OP didn't mean anything bad by his post, but it amazes me how quick we are to condemn him.
”
i don't think we've condemned the person using the word coloured, mostly people have pointed out that the term is redundant and have explained why...... thats not condemming, thats communicating
Originally Posted by Doc Shmok:
“BS
I tried to make the change, was too late, only the within thread name changed, as you could have seen if you wouldn't just try to troll me.
Loosen up”
“BS
I tried to make the change, was too late, only the within thread name changed, as you could have seen if you wouldn't just try to troll me.
Loosen up
”
Originally Posted by JonDoe:
“I suppose we're not ready for it yet.
Some of us are even still using words like 'coloured'.”
“I suppose we're not ready for it yet.
Some of us are even still using words like 'coloured'.”
[quote=Scots rool]I would image you have managed to offend a lot of BLACK people by that statement.
Originally Posted by Spiv:
“I'll be kind to Doc here and suggest that perhaps he / she is of the age where saying coloured is still thought of as acceptable - like my mates grandad..
But I think the thread should be removed..”
“I'll be kind to Doc here and suggest that perhaps he / she is of the age where saying coloured is still thought of as acceptable - like my mates grandad..
But I think the thread should be removed..”
Originally Posted by BB-Five:
“TROLL! Did he really use the word coloured without any irony.”
“TROLL! Did he really use the word coloured without any irony.”
Originally Posted by Scots rool:
“I imagine its only a matter of time before the wording is altered into a less offensive comment
Don't really thing age has much to do with it either just ignorance. Imo”
“I imagine its only a matter of time before the wording is altered into a less offensive comment
Don't really thing age has much to do with it either just ignorance. Imo”
The above were within the first 10 posts of your opening post, including mine, all basically saying the same thing in relation to the thread title.
You were abundantly and suitably informed to remove "coloured" from the title before it was too late. You did not do so.
"as you could have seen if you wouldn't just try to troll me."
Why did you feel the need to refer to me as trolling you when you did not do so with others, just because I asked questions you cannot answer?
"Wild accusations
"As for your claims of wild accusations, it is worthy to note others believe you deliberately inserted "coloured" to generate anger and post counts
Originally Posted by ikearns:
“I personally think the thread was partially started with the intent on sparking a heated debate rather than making a true observation!”
“I personally think the thread was partially started with the intent on sparking a heated debate rather than making a true observation!”
You refused to answer the question regarding what changed your mind about removing "coloured". Could it be because of anything we have been saying?
Originally Posted by Shelley:
“It's the horns you should be worrying about!”
“It's the horns you should be worrying about!
”
I thought you were the horny one.
Originally Posted by BigMerv:
“We have so much hypocracy in this country with pc bullsh*t, it's alright for the tabloids to call the French 'frogs' and the Germans 'krauts' but woe betide the man or woman who uses an unfashionable word. The PC police will jump down his or her throat.”
“We have so much hypocracy in this country with pc bullsh*t, it's alright for the tabloids to call the French 'frogs' and the Germans 'krauts' but woe betide the man or woman who uses an unfashionable word. The PC police will jump down his or her throat.”
but its NOT alright for the tabloids to say frog and kraut.... they say it, but its not alright....
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“As for your claims of wild accusations, it is worthy to note others believe you deliberately inserted "coloured" to generate anger and post counts”
“As for your claims of wild accusations, it is worthy to note others believe you deliberately inserted "coloured" to generate anger and post counts”
give it up eh ... :sleep:
Originally Posted by Red_Duck:
“Your husband has never heard of one of the most pernicious systems of oppression in the history of humanity: apartheid. I suppose your husband has never heard of Nelson Mandela either?
Get your husband to use the internet and read up about how people were categorised and stigmatised according to their skin colour : one category being coloured.
Or perhaps he should read about segregation in the 60s in America where there were special drinking fountains for Coloureds Only so that they could not contaminate Whites Only drinking fountains with their melanin.
I assume your husband does not know the social history of this country either, about a time not so long ago when notices were put into the windows of boarding houses declaring No Coloureds and No Dogs.
When your husband has finishing reading up on the subject, I hope he understands why coloured is such a highly provocative term when used by someone who does not consider the term as applying to themselves.
I assume your husband has no black or asian friends, otherwise they would have had a quiet word with him about just how offensive he must appear to others.”
“Your husband has never heard of one of the most pernicious systems of oppression in the history of humanity: apartheid. I suppose your husband has never heard of Nelson Mandela either?
Get your husband to use the internet and read up about how people were categorised and stigmatised according to their skin colour : one category being coloured.
Or perhaps he should read about segregation in the 60s in America where there were special drinking fountains for Coloureds Only so that they could not contaminate Whites Only drinking fountains with their melanin.
I assume your husband does not know the social history of this country either, about a time not so long ago when notices were put into the windows of boarding houses declaring No Coloureds and No Dogs.
When your husband has finishing reading up on the subject, I hope he understands why coloured is such a highly provocative term when used by someone who does not consider the term as applying to themselves.
I assume your husband has no black or asian friends, otherwise they would have had a quiet word with him about just how offensive he must appear to others.”
Why so hostile?
Many people use different terminology to discribe different people.
When was the last time you saw a sign in any window saying 'No Coloureds, No Dogs'? Your post says 'not so long ago'. If this is true you should be able to say when (if only approx).
All the time people keep going on about racism, then there will be racism. I, for one, look forward to the day when people do not see a colour but a person. Being black myself, I have encounted many forms of racism over many years. It's not what people say, it's how they say it. We're not stupid and we are quite able to judge for ourselves if something or someone is being offensive or not. We do not need to be told what we should be offended by. The original poster did not mean anything by what was written, that was obvious. Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post.
My oh my - a mass debate!
Everyone knows that the correct name for a black person is a "brother" or a "bro". A female can be referred to as a "bitch" or a "Ho". As approved by Ali G.
Hope this helps.
Everyone knows that the correct name for a black person is a "brother" or a "bro". A female can be referred to as a "bitch" or a "Ho". As approved by Ali G.
Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“Why so hostile?
Many people use different terminology to discribe different people.
When was the last time you saw a sign in any window saying 'No Coloureds, No Dogs'? Your post says 'not so long ago'. If this is true you should be able to say when (if only approx).
All the time people keep going on about racism, then there will be racism. I, for one, look forward to the day when people do not see a colour but a person. Being black myself, I have encounted many forms of racism over many years. It's not what people say, it's how they say it. We're not stupid and we are quite able to judge for ourselves if something or someone is being offensive or not. We do not need to be told what we should be offended by. .”
“Why so hostile?
Many people use different terminology to discribe different people.
When was the last time you saw a sign in any window saying 'No Coloureds, No Dogs'? Your post says 'not so long ago'. If this is true you should be able to say when (if only approx).
All the time people keep going on about racism, then there will be racism. I, for one, look forward to the day when people do not see a colour but a person. Being black myself, I have encounted many forms of racism over many years. It's not what people say, it's how they say it. We're not stupid and we are quite able to judge for ourselves if something or someone is being offensive or not. We do not need to be told what we should be offended by. .”
"The original poster did not mean anything by what was written, that was obvious."
How did you know that? Are you able to read his mind?
"Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post"
Which ones?
It also implies that even you admit that the original post is offensive.
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“Why so hostile?
Many people use different terminology to discribe different people.
When was the last time you saw a sign in any window saying 'No Coloureds, No Dogs'? Your post says 'not so long ago'. If this is true you should be able to say when (if only approx).
All the time people keep going on about racism, then there will be racism. I, for one, look forward to the day when people do not see a colour but a person. Being black myself, I have encounted many forms of racism over many years. It's not what people say, it's how they say it. We're not stupid and we are quite able to judge for ourselves if something or someone is being offensive or not. We do not need to be told what we should be offended by. The original poster did not mean anything by what was written, that was obvious. Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post.”
“Why so hostile?
Many people use different terminology to discribe different people.
When was the last time you saw a sign in any window saying 'No Coloureds, No Dogs'? Your post says 'not so long ago'. If this is true you should be able to say when (if only approx).
All the time people keep going on about racism, then there will be racism. I, for one, look forward to the day when people do not see a colour but a person. Being black myself, I have encounted many forms of racism over many years. It's not what people say, it's how they say it. We're not stupid and we are quite able to judge for ourselves if something or someone is being offensive or not. We do not need to be told what we should be offended by. The original poster did not mean anything by what was written, that was obvious. Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post.”
Spot on post....thank you.
Originally Posted by bystander:
“Definition
ethnic minority noun [C]
a national or racial group living in a country or area which contains a larger group of people of a different race or nationality”
“Definition
ethnic minority noun [C]
a national or racial group living in a country or area which contains a larger group of people of a different race or nationality”
my Definition:
Ethnic-minority;..a group of PEOPLE living ANYWHERE which contains a larger group of PEOPLE...REGARDLESS of SKIN-COLOUR, CULTURE and DIVERSITY.
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“It also implies that even you admit that the original post is offensive.”
“It also implies that even you admit that the original post is offensive.”
Not necessarily. Five is more than zero. Do try to keep up.
Originally Posted by Doc Shmok:
“I thought you were the horny one.”
“I thought you were the horny one.
”
Who's been talking??? I deny all accusations! I only said I like mass debate!
Originally Posted by Iknowicould:
“"The original poster did not mean anything by what was written, that was obvious."
How did you know that? Are you able to read his mind?
"Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post"
Which ones?
It also implies that even you admit that the original post is offensive.”
“"The original poster did not mean anything by what was written, that was obvious."
How did you know that? Are you able to read his mind?
"Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post"
Which ones?
It also implies that even you admit that the original post is offensive.”
Didn't you know?
These forums are full of mindreaders!
Originally Posted by BigMerv:
“Didn't you know?
These forums are full of mindreaders!”
“Didn't you know?
These forums are full of mindreaders!
”
If the intent was "obvious" as 40-40J's suggested, you wouldn't have to be a "mind reader".
Originally Posted by Histeria:
“If the intent was "obvious" as 40-40J's suggested, you wouldn't have to be a "mind reader".”
“If the intent was "obvious" as 40-40J's suggested, you wouldn't have to be a "mind reader".
”
Obviously....
Originally Posted by Shelley:
“ Who's been talking??? I deny all accusations! I only said I like mass debate! ”
“
Who's been talking??? I deny all accusations! I only said I like mass debate! ”
LOL ROFL
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post.”
“Some of the replies have been more offensive than the original post.”
True, very true
Good post
Originally Posted by Red_Duck:
“Your husband has never heard of one of the most pernicious systems of oppression in the history of humanity: apartheid. I suppose your husband has never heard of Nelson Mandela either?
Get your husband to use the internet and read up about how people were categorised and stigmatised according to their skin colour : one category being coloured.
Or perhaps he should read about segregation in the 60s in America where there were special drinking fountains for Coloureds Only so that they could not contaminate Whites Only drinking fountains with their melanin.
I assume your husband does not know the social history of this country either, about a time not so long ago when notices were put into the windows of boarding houses declaring No Coloureds and No Dogs.
When your husband has finishing reading up on the subject, I hope he understands why coloured is such a highly provocative term when used by someone who does not consider the term as applying to themselves.
I assume your husband has no black or asian friends, otherwise they would have had a quiet word with him about just how offensive he must appear to others.”
“Your husband has never heard of one of the most pernicious systems of oppression in the history of humanity: apartheid. I suppose your husband has never heard of Nelson Mandela either?
Get your husband to use the internet and read up about how people were categorised and stigmatised according to their skin colour : one category being coloured.
Or perhaps he should read about segregation in the 60s in America where there were special drinking fountains for Coloureds Only so that they could not contaminate Whites Only drinking fountains with their melanin.
I assume your husband does not know the social history of this country either, about a time not so long ago when notices were put into the windows of boarding houses declaring No Coloureds and No Dogs.
When your husband has finishing reading up on the subject, I hope he understands why coloured is such a highly provocative term when used by someone who does not consider the term as applying to themselves.
I assume your husband has no black or asian friends, otherwise they would have had a quiet word with him about just how offensive he must appear to others.”
Good points. The BBC documentary What Ron Said would also be my recommendation for this FM's husband.
Originally Posted by Histeria:
“Not necessarily. Five is more than zero. Do try to keep up.”
“Not necessarily. Five is more than zero. Do try to keep up.”
Originally Posted by Histeria:
“If the intent was "obvious" as 40-40J's suggested, you wouldn't have to be a "mind reader".”
“If the intent was "obvious" as 40-40J's suggested, you wouldn't have to be a "mind reader".
”
You have now progressed to answering for others, substituting your opinions for those of the intended. Where is the debate?
Wow!
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