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Old Man 43
08-08-2013
Originally Posted by adams66:
“Just to clarify, Ray... in the original tv series the Doctor was NOT strictly a Time Lord until The War Games revealed him to be one. With hindsight we can assume that he always was a Time Lord, but certainly at the time of the tv serials The Daleks and Dalek Invasion Of Earth the Doctor was merely a mysterious and unexplained traveller - "Susan and I are cut off from our own planet - without friends or protection. But one day we shall get back. Yes, one day...." He could have been, and was probably intended to be, human, but from a future civilisation on another planet.
His 'renewal' (it wasn't actually called 'regeneration' until Planet of the Spiders) at the Tenth Planet was the first concrete evidence that the Doctor definitely wasn't human.

However, the Peter Cushing character definitely was human. No hint of him being an alien, or from another time or civilization. And he was called Doctor Who. I'm constantly baffled by people's attempts to somehow retcon Cushing into the continuity of the tv series. Can't we all accept that the two Cushing films, charming and entertaining though they are, simply do not, will not, and should not be shoehorned into the tv series history, and they were never intended to be.”

When did the whole two hearts thing come into Doctor Who?
Bruce Wayne
08-08-2013
Originally Posted by Old Man 43:
“When did the whole two hearts thing come into Doctor Who?”

Jon Pertwee I believe
adams66
08-08-2013
Originally Posted by Old Man 43:
“When did the whole two hearts thing come into Doctor Who?”

Spearhead From Space.
Interestingly, just a year earlier The Dominators had a whole thing about the Dulcians and the Dominators having two hearts and Troughton's Doctor didn't mention that he had two.
And when the Doctor had been examined in the Wheel In Space (and probably at other times) there was no mention of it. So it clearly wasn't thought of until Pertwee's debut.
Bruce Wayne
08-08-2013
Originally Posted by adams66:
“Spearhead From Space.
Interestingly, just a year earlier The Dominators had a whole thing about the Dulcians and the Dominators having two hearts and Troughton's Doctor didn't mention that he had two.
And when the Doctor had been examined in the Wheel In Space (and probably at other times) there was no mention of it. So it clearly wasn't thought of until Pertwee's debut.”

Good point. I would have gone into more detail myself, but am doing a full rewatch and didn't want to interrupt Tom Bakers last series.
hazelnuttwhike
08-08-2013
Originally Posted by seanyboy180:
“That's the third actor called Peter to play the doctor..”

Well done Seanyboy, if you were trying to play a game of spot the pedant, you win!
seanyboy180
08-08-2013
Ha ha its been very entertaining too
AdelaideGirl
09-08-2013
So two actors called Peter, two actors called Baker....the Doctor's name is Peter Baker!
seanyboy180
09-08-2013
(3 actors..) so I'm off to the bookies.. Ladies and geekymen I give you the next doctor
JohnnyForget
09-08-2013
Originally Posted by AdelaideGirl:
“So two actors called Peter, two actors called Baker....the Doctor's name is Peter Baker!”

Also two actors who have played or will play the Doctor, who have also played Beatles. Eccleston played John Lennon in a TV drama about 3 years ago, and Capaldi played George Harrison in a TV drama in 1985.
seanyboy180
09-08-2013
http://m.imdb.com/name/nm1807315/
cy_bones
09-08-2013
Originally Posted by seanyboy180:
“http://m.imdb.com/name/nm1807315/”

He has an interesting back catalogue, but I think he may be a little too old for the part now (he must be at least 75)...
cy_bones
09-08-2013
Simple explanation - the films are unrelated to our Doctor as they take place in a parallel universe.

If the cybermen were created on earth in a parallel universe, where (presumably) Mondas didn't exist, it is also possible that in a different parallel universe the Time Lords didn't exist and that a time machine was invented by a human doctor.
seanyboy180
09-08-2013
Or a metacrisis doctor... Who ends up marrying Rose.. They have children and... Grandchildren..??!! Dum dum duuuuuummmm!
Anita_Edmunds
09-08-2013
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“Include Cushing and you have to include all these actors who have played the Doctor in one form or another.”

that list doesn't mention Doctor Screw who was definatly the same bloke.
James Frederick
09-08-2013
I read somewhere that The Peter Cushing movies were based on stories told by Barbara who while wanted the world to know about The Daleks didn't want to give to much a away about The Doctor to made certain changes
Listentome
09-08-2013
Well Capaldi does look a lot like Cushing. Could we be heading for some sort of parallel universe cross over? I jest of course but as soon as he was revealed as the 12th Cushing suddenly sprang to mind
The Alpha Gamer
10-08-2013
*Insert silly comment about a "Peter Agenda"*
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