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lamby
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“Clearing the cookies, cache etc is what beIN Sports will tell all MENA customers to do. It's also what Overplay will recommend.”

It worked for me
dubrov1
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“I've had a few issues myself today so decided to test the service out using 'other means'. I'm currently watching a stream from beIN Sports 11HD on a 'dodgy' website shall we say - being streamed by somebody somewhere, and the quality has remained perfect throughout. And yet my other stream - using Overplay - has been less than great.”

Couldn't the dodgy stream have been sourced from satellite?
promo-only
19-01-2014
Originally Posted by dubrov1:
“Couldn't the dodgy stream have been sourced from satellite?”

I was expecting somebody to ask that question a lot sooner!

In short - no. The satellite feeds don't carry the small square below the on-screen beIN logo top right of the screen whereas the online feeds do. I found a couple of separate streams - one with and one without the small square and went with the relevant one. It's similar to how Sky broadcast the white square in the bottom right of the screen during live streaming via Sky Go and Now TV - but don't include it on the TV feeds.
lylina
20-01-2014
Today I watched 4 games back to back (Inter, Chelsea, Barca and PSG) and the quality has been top notch, almost always 2.4mbps, using a smartdns service.

on the other hand, chan12 is still bugged, lol.
akki007
20-01-2014
So, who's renewing for the season in May?! I will be... £50 for unlimited sport on the go. Definitely renewing.
Kingsd316
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“So, who's renewing for the season in May?! I will be... £50 for unlimited sport on the go. Definitely renewing.”

Me, not had 1 problem on the IOS app and using the AV cable to stream to the TV
promo-only
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“So, who's renewing for the season in May?! I will be... £50 for unlimited sport on the go. Definitely renewing.”

I'm definitely renewing... but it all depends on how the Premier League matches are shown going forward. If they're still streamed to everybody then I'm in, no question! Just hope they're not going to be streamed to people who registered their STB and paired viewing card!
BigBadJimmy
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“So, who's renewing for the season in May?! I will be... £50 for unlimited sport on the go. Definitely renewing.”

What is this, a subscription only for mobile apps?
akki007
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by BigBadJimmy:
“What is this, a subscription only for mobile apps?”

Season pass $100? Nearly £50 anyway!
jcm193
20-01-2014
Personally i wont be renewing or subscribing again god knows ive tried to get reliable service my end, and despite having tried 3 different dns services and 3 different vpn providers i can not get it to work correctly.I have couple of alternatives available to me so in the short term iam going to stick with them but it would be interested to know what happens with beinports and there coverage in the future.
lylina
20-01-2014
Has anybody else tried to contact them with regard to the issue that plagues chan 12? I tried and they said they had their staff looking into it but they still have not fixed it ..
promo-only
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by lylina:
“Has anybody else tried to contact them with regard to the issue that plagues chan 12? I tried and they said they had their staff looking into it but they still have not fixed it ..”

Do you even watch anything on 12?
lylina
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“Do you even watch anything on 12?”

they have started broadcasting nba there now and there will be also a few interesting footy games in the next few days according to the schedule
akki007
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“Do you even watch anything on 12?”

Ha ha. I don't. But it's bugged!!!!
lylina
20-01-2014
they haven't fixed it after well over a week now and that's the thing I would laugh at, considering they are an "award winning" service..
lucifa42
20-01-2014
Anyone's BEIN stuck on a low quality stream on 11HD tonight? Tried forcing to the higher quality and won't increase.
Was perfect yesterday

Such inconsistent service.
promo-only
20-01-2014
I was speaking to the guys at Overplay regarding the stream quality issues that people are experiencing and got a pretty lengthy reply.

Out of interest what ISP's are people using? Does anybody happen to use Plusnet on here? According to Overplay, you'll get the best results from beIN Sports if you're on Plusnet.
lucifa42
20-01-2014
I'm not using overplay and I'm not on any of the big ISPs.
promo-only
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by lylina:
“they haven't fixed it after well over a week now and that's the thing I would laugh at, considering they are an "award winning" service..”

You say it as if somebody is telling lies with your " "! Facts are facts and that's the way it is. Now get back on the keyboard and send them another email.
promo-only
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by lucifa42:
“I'm not using overplay and I'm not on any of the big ISPs.”

Overplay is irrelevant to the point. The discussion was with Overplay but concerned the link between ISP and CDN... and that's where the problems lie in their opinion. They say the only "complete solution" is to use an ISP like Plusnet.
Coljj
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“Use a VPN. Seriously. It's that easy”

Recommendations?
akki007
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by Coljj:
“Recommendations?”

One that offers a fast server.
dubrov1
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“I was speaking to the guys at Overplay regarding the stream quality issues that people are experiencing and got a pretty lengthy reply.

Out of interest what ISP's are people using? Does anybody happen to use Plusnet on here? According to Overplay, you'll get the best results from beIN Sports if you're on Plusnet.”

Any chance you can post their explanation?

It looks like there is a combination of poor service and smart DNS issues. The problem on HD12 wouldn't actually be an issue if you could select the quality of your stream. The option is there but it doesn't seem to work.
promo-only
20-01-2014
Originally Posted by dubrov1:
“Any chance you can post their explanation?

It looks like there is a combination of poor service and smart DNS issues. The problem on HD12 wouldn't actually be an issue if you could select the quality of your stream. The option is there but it doesn't seem to work.”

Yeah, sure. Here's a reply from one of the emails:

Quote:
“It is unequivocally the CDNs and your ISP that are introducing the problem. More specifically, it's the link between your ISP and the CDN. You may think that that's just an excuse, but it is the way it is.

Sky, for example, will host Akamai (the CDN provider, in BeIN's case) hardware in their datacenters, and when you're using Sky's DNS servers you'll get pointed straight at those boxes rather than having to go out on the 'wider' internet to pull the content. It's effectively free for both Akamai, and Sky to maintain this peering arrangement, it saves Sky having to pay to transit your data.

When you're using our DNS servers, the Akamai content server will not be located so locally to you. If we pointed you at Sky's servers it'd have a negative effect on BT customers for example, and vice versa... the content servers we're pointed to (and therefore which we point you towards) are usually in the UK (although sometimes Germany), but if your ISP decides to traffic shape data travelling over these routes then you're just out of luck. It's not our fault, we just point you at the Akamai server that Akamai point us at... technically the extra layer of abstraction we have to introduce makes Akamai's job of determining YOUR fastest content server much more difficult, all they can do is provide the fastest server for US. Generally speaking these would be perfectly fine, but some ISPs traffic shape and deprioritise content pulled from outside their network in this way. Some other ISPs just have heavily utilised connections to these off-net locations, resulting in a similar symptom.

The only complete solution would be to change ISP to one which doesn't engage in either of these practises (Plusnet, for example, works particularly well), but I accept that that's not practical.

Ultimately, we don't touch the video data when using BeIN, at all. It's simply impossible for us to be to blame for a poor stream - all we do is tell your computer where to go to find the data... we do not and can not control the route used by your ISP to get there.”

They specifically refer to Sky because that's who my ISP is.

I'm now hoping that we can find somebody on here who uses an ISP such as Plusnet so we can see if their service is any better at times when issues are being reported here seeing as Overplay are unequivocally taking themselves out of the mix and placing the blame on the ISP's.
akki007
21-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“Yeah, sure. Here's a reply from one of the emails:



They specifically refer to Sky because that's who my ISP is.

I'm now hoping that we can find somebody on here who uses an ISP such as Plusnet so we can see if their service is any better at times when issues are being reported here seeing as Overplay are unequivocally taking themselves out of the mix and placing the blame on the ISP's.”

Why is the ios app unaffected using the same ISP??
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