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jcm193
22-01-2014
Here post 608 http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...871817&page=25
Originally Posted by Grant_Lavender:
“Awesome thanks!

Could do with a premier league pass android apk link if anyone has one, really struggling to find it! Will need it if I jump ship!”

NickBrown
22-01-2014
the plp one is on few pages back i remember downloading it

http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0MVYVWRM/
BigBadJimmy
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“It is unequivocally the CDNs and your ISP that are introducing the problem. More specifically, it's the link between your ISP and the CDN. You may think that that's just an excuse, but it is the way it is.

Sky, for example, will host Akamai (the CDN provider, in BeIN's case) hardware in their datacenters, and when you're using Sky's DNS servers you'll get pointed straight at those boxes rather than having to go out on the 'wider' internet to pull the content. It's effectively free for both Akamai, and Sky to maintain this peering arrangement, it saves Sky having to pay to transit your data.

When you're using our DNS servers, the Akamai content server will not be located so locally to you. If we pointed you at Sky's servers it'd have a negative effect on BT customers for example, and vice versa... the content servers we're pointed to (and therefore which we point you towards) are usually in the UK (although sometimes Germany), but if your ISP decides to traffic shape data travelling over these routes then you're just out of luck. It's not our fault, we just point you at the Akamai server that Akamai point us at... technically the extra layer of abstraction we have to introduce makes Akamai's job of determining YOUR fastest content server much more difficult, all they can do is provide the fastest server for US. Generally speaking these would be perfectly fine, but some ISPs traffic shape and deprioritise content pulled from outside their network in this way. Some other ISPs just have heavily utilised connections to these off-net locations, resulting in a similar symptom.

The only complete solution would be to change ISP to one which doesn't engage in either of these practises (Plusnet, for example, works particularly well), but I accept that that's not practical.

Ultimately, we don't touch the video data when using BeIN, at all. It's simply impossible for us to be to blame for a poor stream - all we do is tell your computer where to go to find the data... we do not and can not control the route used by your ISP to get there.”

Interesting stuff. Maybe, when coming across issues with the BeIn service, from now on we should mention which ISP we're using. We may be able to establish a pattern; maybe some ISPs work better with the service than others.

It seems quite possible that there is more than one issue or culprit which is to blame for the issues that we are seeing. For example, why would AJS/BeIn have revised the flash stream version several times if there were no issues at their end? (The last I saw I think we were on revision 'h'.)
seankk
22-01-2014
trying getting it to work on Android App (beIN) but getting a "Could not load video"

happens on the 2 FTA channels and all other
Im logged it to my account , SMART DNS.

any ideas?
lamby
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by seankk:
“trying getting it to work on Android App (beIN) but getting a "Could not load video"

happens on the 2 FTA channels and all other
Im logged it to my account , SMART DNS.

any ideas?”

Happens to me, when i click "ok" or "close" it loads it.
seankk
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by lamby:
“Happens to me, when i click "ok" or "close" it loads it.”

sorry , it says "ERROR , Video No Available"


i click on "OK"

all i see it a BLANK BLACK screen , thats it...
lylina
22-01-2014
awful quality tonight again..
akki007
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by lylina:
“awful quality tonight again..”

Poor for me on chrome, 2.4mb on IE. Pep flash in chrome is v12 I noticed. Normal flash 11.9 it must be that
NickBrown
22-01-2014
worst i have ever seen it

http://i41.tinypic.com/2zqcytu.png
lylina
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“Poor for me on chrome, 2.4mb on IE. Pep flash in chrome is v12 I noticed. Normal flash 11.9 it must be that”

actually I was wrong, editing my post.
NickBrown
22-01-2014
just changed dns providers to unblock-us (free trial) and much better than overplay so looks like its there issue thats the quality i was used to on admc and aj

http://i39.tinypic.com/i6cfbp.png
Grant_Lavender
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by jcm193:
“Here post 608 http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...871817&page=25”

Cheers for plp links guys.

Does anyone use airplay on ipad bein sports app? I saw someone say they use it but can't see an option for it in the app??
Grant_Lavender
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by NickBrown:
“just changed dns providers to unblock-us (free trial) and much better than overplay so looks like its there issue thats the quality i was used to on admc and aj

http://i39.tinypic.com/i6cfbp.png”

Nice tip mate, I've just done the same quality is fantastic.

Overplay are obviously the issue.
seankk
22-01-2014
changed to UnBlock-us

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zteszs.jpg

same same....awful

will wait to see how studio quality is
akki007
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by Grant_Lavender:
“Nice tip mate, I've just done the same quality is fantastic.

Overplay are obviously the issue.”

I don't use overplay and my quality is poor but only in chrome
seankk
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“I don't use overplay and my quality is poor but only in chrome”

what are you using ? IE ?
NickBrown
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by seankk:
“changed to UnBlock-us

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zteszs.jpg

same same....awful

will wait to see how studio quality is”

you tried putting it on low bit rate on 200k then 2.4mb ? using unblockus dns
promo-only
22-01-2014
I don't know if it's Overplays fault or not but the issue is connected to viewing via DNS. If you can get a good route on the go, your picture will be fantastic at 2.4. Sadly, it seems DNS providers at the moment are really struggling.

Broken record time, but the problem isn't at beIN's end. It's what happens once the DNS gets in and routes it back to the end user.
akki007
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“I don't know if it's Overplays fault or not but the issue is connected to viewing via DNS. If you can get a good route on the go, your picture will be fantastic at 2.4. Sadly, it seems DNS providers at the moment are really struggling.

Broken record time, but the problem isn't at beIN's end. It's what happens once the DNS gets in and routes it back to the end user.”

I disagree. I use a non dns service, get 2.4mb on IE but crap on chrome. Both using the new flash 12. I think it's a flash 12 thing in chrome.

Someone using overplay try IE and see what happens
promo-only
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by akki007:
“I disagree. I use a non dns service, get 2.4mb on IE but crap on chrome. Both using the new flash 12. I think it's a flash 12 thing in chrome.

Someone using overplay try IE and see what happens”

You're still using a VPN though so you're still being routed through in the same manner? There is never any set pattern to these problems being reported. I'll put my money down now on anybody and everybody in the Middle East having the same picture quality that NickBrown has reported. Al Jazeera simply will not acknowledge there are problems, you will always just be told to clear your cache and restart your machine. IF they were having these problems at their end week in, week out, I just don't think people would still be experiencing them now from the start of the season. And it's a not usually a case for every person to have the same problems at the same time... there is a always a split between people who are fine and who are not.
promo-only
22-01-2014
There's not a single complaint on their Facebook page about the quality of service... and it's Manchester United. When Man Utd or Liverpool are playing, if any complaints come in to them about quality issues it's when they're in action. Obviously we don't know who is watching via satellite, cable system or streaming but still not a single complaint coming from their domestic users. You'll need to translate the page though because it's in Arabic.
akki007
22-01-2014
Originally Posted by promo-only:
“You're still using a VPN though so you're still being routed through in the same manner? There is never any set pattern to these problems being reported. I'll put my money down now on anybody and everybody in the Middle East having the same picture quality that NickBrown has reported. Al Jazeera simply will not acknowledge there are problems, you will always just be told to clear your cache and restart your machine. IF they were having these problems at their end week in, week out, I just don't think people would still be experiencing them now from the start of the season. And it's a not usually a case for every person to have the same problems at the same time... there is a always a split between people who are fine and who are not.”

Somehow I'm simultaneously experiencing it and not experiencing it!
Budder_Worrall1
22-01-2014
Im air playing to my Apple TV through my iPad and streaming is fantastic once again
promo-only
22-01-2014
Just a heads up in case anybody on here is thinking of emailing Al Jazeera about their stream quality. If it is just a DNS and VPN routing issue, be careful because it might raise their suspicions and could inadvertently tip them off as to how you're accessing the service so they may block you if they know they're having no problems at their end. IMO it's best to just ride the storm and if you contact anybody it should be your DNS or VPN provider for a full answer.
seankk
22-01-2014
i have tried IE - no channels play on a blank screnn
then tried FireFox - and got a undifined messgae inside of the player

then decided to check out Adobe Flash Player site , and guess what there was a NEW UPDATE of flash player.

installed it , restarted Chrome and back to GOOD Quality.

anyone with awful quality can try it and write back ?

before flash update :

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zteszs.jpg

after flash update :

http://i42.tinypic.com/33b1njd.jpg

both CHROME
SMART DNS
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