premier league thread

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clewsy

17-08-2013

Originally Posted by Budder_Worrall1:
“AJs servers all over the show today , I think we just have to be patient for a bit until they sort the problem , I think today was always going to be a bit hit and miss , just watched the Man U Swansea game very good airplay picture quality iPhone to Apple TV but all the 3pm kickoffs were poor couldn't even get a picture. As for plp signed up for the free 24 hour pass , picture quality wasn't bad but like AJ I think we have to give it time”

We always knew that their servers would struggle with the demand. I don't think they will do much about this either as once they have your money they tend to do as they please. We shall see though - it should be a really simple case of just upping bandwidth allowances and purchasing more server racks. We shall see.

Budder_Worrall1

17-08-2013

AJ iOS update for iPhone now available

Budder_Worrall1

17-08-2013

Could it have been server problems or just the a case if the iOS update I winder

Budder_Worrall1

17-08-2013

First impressions of new update , just looks as bad

Budder_Worrall1

17-08-2013

Just had another go and it seems to me that vpn is needed more than the dns

--jr--

17-08-2013

To automatically login to Al-Jazeera Sport and not need to keep typing in your username or clicking login each time you open it up
Copy the following into your favourite notepad/textpad text editor, replace username and password fields, and save as .html and just open it with your favorite browser

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</FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>

--jr--

17-08-2013

If everyone with AJS contacts them and asks them to decrease limitations to 4000kbps streams or add a button to choose which bit rate, we might get somewhere soon

[[many of us have computers/internet capable of it]
I have already asked them

clewsy

17-08-2013

Originally Posted by Budder_Worrall1:
“Just had another go and it seems to me that vpn is needed more than the dns”

Email Overplay and tell them of the issue. The more of us that raise it the more likely they are to work on it.

GaMeFaNaTiC

17-08-2013

Originally Posted by Corsten:
“Report for today.

3pm Norwich - Everton. Al Jazeera ready, referee has whistle on his lips, so i press pause. Normally i watch games afterforwards, because i have to put my kids to sleep and before that there is lots of stuff going on at home. Today it was. So Al Jazeera promotes, that you can continue watching stream from pause. So 3 hours later i came back with beer and silence. Game on! 15 seconds it worked until it freezes. Whatta ****? Then i navigate to archieve of games, but empty with Premier League full games.

Lucky that i did get PremierLeaguePass´s free day pass, so site open and voila! Game on again! And what a picture! Thats so cool and 30fps (tested with Fraps). Here is the sample: http://www.mediafire.com/download/qf...PLP_SAMPLE.avi

Now im consider to ask refund from Al Jazeera and jumping to PLP, because watcing games afterforward is very important to me. Let see what they answer me. Even so, im gonna buy also PLP, because my AJS is only for 3 months, so not so big deal. PLP is going to release support for ipad app to AirPlay, so i can watch games also from TV. Now i cant, because my TV (or computer) doesent support 10m HDMI cable. And AJS is not going to get support for AirPlay for their Ipad app.”

Since you got both AJS and PLP which would you say has the better quality? I read somewhere that PLP doesn't stream in HD but from your sample it looks very good.

St@mmie

17-08-2013

Well it wasn't perfect but I'm reasonably happy with AJS today,
even though I have free BT Sports with VM I ended up switching over to AJS for the Liverpool game as the amatuerish Michael Owen and Mark Halsey were getting on my nerves, like most people I could only get the 3 meg stream and going from broadcast HD to this the picture quality obviously wasn't anywhere near as good but it was still very watchable.
I know I'm in a minority here but I also enjoyed seeing Andy Gray and Richard Keys back on screen doing the studio work.
I then had the Arsenal game on via AJS and again could only top out at the 3 meg stream, twice it defaulted to the lowest quality stream during the game but this lasted no more than 30 seconds before ramping up again.
As I said it wasn't perfect but all in all very watchable and even in these early days for the service better than ADMC last season

Corsten

17-08-2013

Originally Posted by GaMeFaNaTiC:
“Since you got both AJS and PLP which would you say has the better quality? I read somewhere that PLP doesn't stream in HD but from your sample it looks very good.”

That sample was recap, it may be better quality than live stream. If it is same stuff, i can tell my view:

Well AJS has little bit better quality, but within game quality can drob suddenly to mesh, framerate wasnt smooth. PLP didnt have that problem and PLP´s framerate was better for my eye. Nice quality with PLP all the way, not HD but between SD and HD. PLP are consider 4500kbs stream option, but its big maeby.

icebergx

17-08-2013

I must admit, after trying PLP today with their free trial, I was impressed with their service. Quality was rock-solid 3000kbps throughout with no "step down".

I compared it to Sky Go for the Man U game. Despite the fact that i have a solid 30mbps connection via ethernet, Sky Go only want to allow me a 2/4 bar connection... There was no option to select a higher bitrate.
The quality was watchable, but not great... I'd give it 5/10 compared to PLP's 8/10

seankk

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by whiteswan:
“Ok........

Al Jazeera on a lenovo q190 i3 - Pretty much flawless.

Al Jazeera on 7 year old DELL XPS 420 - Again flawaless - maybe even 5 percent better than the Lenovo - only problem with the dell is its DVI and not HDMI so no sound apart from the audio out from the pc - but this pc is going straight into a tv so no joy there - still very very good for a 7 year old pc.

Al Jazeera on 2 x ACER REVO's L70 AND L80 - Rubbish on both - stutter city.

As I mentioned on the other thread - NBC SPORT through a slingbox is 110 percent HD - no stuttering, jagged edges etc - just sublime !! This is the one for me - albeit I understand not an option available to the mass public.

Advice from me - pick up an old DELL XPS 420 from ebay - stick a cheap HDMI graphics card in it and uncle bob is here - by the way can anybody recommend me a hdmi card for my XPS 420 - I assume its just plug one out and plug new one in ?

Not too techy I'm afraid..............

Dave”

These DELL XPS 420 arent cheap... plus a bit to big to stick next to the TV..
any other suggestions?

reeves1985

18-08-2013

Anybody else getting geo blocked using the iPhone updated app using overplay smart dns

I have checked and its running and configured properly

darkone338

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by reeves1985:
“Anybody else getting geo blocked using the iPhone updated app using overplay smart dns

I have checked and its running and configured properly”

yup. few people (including myself) have raised tickets at overplay about it. Only seems to work using a vpn on iOS.

whiteswan

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by seankk:
“These DELL XPS 420 arent cheap... plus a bit to big to stick next to the TV..
any other suggestions?”

I found 2 on ebay for around £100.......loads at around £150...........and a few around £200.

With regards to the Lenovo 190 - I would stick with the i3 version - just because its been tried and tested (by me) with al jazeera etc........

Its a shame about the revo's..........but not a surprise as they struggle with hd netflix as well.

Dave

kerrybr

18-08-2013

didn't watch Liverpool game as bt sport free on virgin media xl so watched in hd on projector, superb quality, and excellent game.

moving on to 3pm AJ ok at 2.45, problem started just before 3.00pm then logged in too many times so locked out.

emailed them and with a few minutes was reset and managed to get in, although lost around 15 minutes by then
watched west ham v cardiff game, wish I hadn't crap match and wrong result!!

quality very good though not hd but certainly as good as sd on satellite. By the way watching on 50" screen

later, then watched Swansea v man u picture very good sound way out though.

so overall experience very good certainly in comparison to ADMC last year.

still cant get my ipad to work without VPN though even after update which is a shame.

Corsten

18-08-2013

So AirPlay is working with new iPad app but hdmi not. And iPad is working still only with VPN. Just to make sure, because im gonna download ipad app later today.

seankk

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by whiteswan:
“I found 2 on ebay for around £100.......loads at around £150...........and a few around £200.

With regards to the Lenovo 190 - I would stick with the i3 version - just because its been tried and tested (by me) with al jazeera etc........

Its a shame about the revo's..........but not a surprise as they struggle with hd netflix as well.

Dave”

Lenovo seems too pricey pick up for this...
i will try to find a budget one that will do the job.

seankk

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by --jr--:
“To automatically login to Al-Jazeera Sport and not need to keep typing in your username or clicking login each time you open it up
Copy the following into your favourite notepad/textpad text editor, replace username and password fields, and save as .html and just open it with your favorite browser

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>
Login</TITLE>
<script>

</script>
</HEAD>
<BODY onLoad="login()">
<FORM NAME="form1" METHOD="POST">
<input type="hidden" name="login.username" class="userName" size="35" value="YOUR USERNAME HERE"/>
<input type="hidden" name="login.password" class="password" maxlength="16" size="20" value="YOUR PASSWORD HERE"/>
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</FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>”

thanks
will try it out.

clewsy

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by Corsten:
“So AirPlay is working with new iPad app but hdmi not. And iPad is working still only with VPN. Just to make sure, because im gonna download ipad app later today.”

Yes so you will need to drop overnet a ticket telling them about this issue. They seem like a decent company so I'm sure the more that highlight this issue, the more likely it is to get solved.

ovbg

18-08-2013

Ok, now that the season has started, and I could test actual live streams, I've gone and published my review on PremierLeaguePass.com to sit aside the Al Jazzera Review.

Maybe this can help people decide.

Video quality seems to be about the same as AJS, although I did notice things got a little messy when there was a closeup of a player right next to the electronic advertising panels.

Still, AJS also had this issue.

PSP.com are still "saying" that their iOS app will support AirPlay, which could be a deciding factor for many. But unlike AJS, their app is not yet available.

Corsten

18-08-2013

AJS is working with AirPlay atm here in Finland. Some guy reports yeasterday, that AirPlay did work but hdmi not. Strange thing is that iPhones AirPlay was better quality than iPads. Yesterday iPad app did use VPN, but this morning some guy reports that iPad app can be used also with dns with way better stream quality and better smootheness but still not smooth (framerate) as from TV. This may need more reports from all around the world. I will be give a shot in 3 hours and i will tell you about it. So big questions to test:
- does iPad app work with dns finally
- does AirPlay work as mentioned
- is there English commentary availeble by selection in iPad app.

With arabic commentary i can live with, but without smooth picture via AirPlay, i select PLP for rest of the season, but their iOS app should come soon, so i can test it.

Trainer99

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by ovbg:
“
Video quality seems to be about the same as AJS, although I did notice things got a little messy when there was a closeup of a player right next to the electronic advertising panels.

Still, AJS also had this issue.
”

Good reviews.

Agreed. I couldn't really see any different between AJS and PLP.

Also see artifacts when the movement is quick and infront of the electronic advertising panels.

Not sure how people can compare this to HD. After you watched a game, switch to a HD TV channel and you will see the difference.

Trainer99

18-08-2013

Originally Posted by Corsten:
“My best setup for smooth streaming is waterfox 64bit browser (win 7 64bit). Very cpu and memory friendly setup. Actually better with full screen than window mode. Testing also PLP this afternoon, also with EVERTON! Coyb!”

Can someone explain why using a different browser (on the same machine) would make a different? I would have thought that at the end of the day it's Flash, so the browser shouldn't make a difference.

Saying that I will give Waterfox a go.

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