Its depends on the broadcast channel your comparing it to if you go through the channels on sky there are some that are worse quality than nbcsports extra on the apple tv

PLP looks better than NBC Sports imo but even then I still prefer Sky Sports SD over PLP.

A big improvement might be possible if the Apple TV 4 supports the HEVC/H.265 video standard. The frame rate could they be bumped up from 30fps to 50fps without needing to increase on the bitrate that's currently used for H.264 streams.

It is. It's much better than sky sd

In resolution terms obviously an SD channel will always be worse than a HD stream. But when you look at the bitrate and compression used - it has a massive effect on the picture.

Most streams still lack behind broadcast in this matter. Netflix is the only thing I've seen that comes close but that's only prerendered stuff. Live is even harder.

Have you seen nbc on Apple tv? It's better than sky sports sd in every way. If it wasn't, I'd have watched today's games on sky.

Celtic 12:30 Inverness CT

Scottish Premier, Sky Sports 3 HD (12:00)

Chelsea 15:00 Sunderland

Premier League, Sky Sports (14:00)

Hull City 15:00 Manchester United

Premier League, Sky Sports 1 HD (14:00)

Newcastle United 15:00 West Ham United

Premier League, Sky Sports 3 HD (14:55)

Preston North End 17:30 Swindon Town

League One - Play-Offs Final, Sky Sports 1 HD (17:30)

New York Red Bulls 22:00 Philadelphia Union

American MLS League, Sky Sports 5 HD (22:00)

Nice selection im surprised BT are not showing anything i guess they have used all of there game up already

Yes I have seen it on Apple TV. My point is a HD stream will always have a better resolution than an SD channel, however comparing a HD channel to a HD stream is different.

To be fair ive never found any HD stream including netflix that compares to a direct satellite or cable HD feed

Agreed, my only point was that nbc on Apple tv is much better than sky sports sd. I didn't compre it to HD

BT are showing the Hibernian-Rangers play-off on Saturday lunchtime and the Dundee-Dundee United derby on Sunday lunchtime.

I should of been clearer i meant the premier league but thanks for the info

Meh Sky Sd > HD streams.

HD streams may look better when the camera is not moving but once it moves and pans it's just not as smooth. As I said before if the streams went to 50fps that would change everything.

I agree on all streams with the exception of premier league pass on iOS and NBC on Apple TV. They are as smooth as broadcast TV.

Plp via AirPlay is outstanding, not tried NBC yet.
Other than quick trial, worked DNS only, do most of you use VPN
Cheers

I received the same email. My iPhone app has now updated to version 3. And will not open, with either smart DNS or a vpn in place.

iPad app is still not updated and running as well as it ever did. With a few stop starts and random jumping back in the broadcast.

Anyone know anything about the new iPhone version and compatibility.

Cheers.

According to the appstore the beinsports app is designed for both the ipad and iphone

https://itunes.apple.com/sa/app/bein...784542009?mt=8

If your jailroken you maybe able to go back to an older version of the app

Not jail broken unfortunately. It was however set to update automatically. Until there is a work around I'll keep the previous version on the iPad as long as possible.

May stick to nbc sports as it is more reliable.

I gave up on bein long ago. Constantly getting locked out, jumping streams, poor quality, judder, crap apps. Nbc for epl, fox for fa cup and champ league

Here's how good nbc is for those that haven't seen it on Apple tv...

http://youtu.be/DSaxijSCBgM

I was using it last and i had a fair bit of buffering on the apple tv strangely there was no buffering on my ipad

That's DNS services for you.

i was using the same dns on my ipad lol

Dunno then! Not had one buffer on VPN

Just had a look at beinsport through my imac brand new player now , but Google chrome is no longer compatible and I've tried with a couple of different DNS companies and nothing plays