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--jr--
01-09-2013
Hey iOS users

had an idea, something i think we should i do

When you backup your iphone (Transfer your purchases) go to the Mobile Applications folder in your itunes media folder

Just make a copy of the Al Jazeera app you have there so if any future AJS app doesn't work with your

Also if you have updated to the new version and you haven't synced it yet and want your old one back... Go into your Mobile Applications folder and check whether or not you have "Sport 2.2.ipa" if so make a copy of it, and then delete the 2.2.1 off your iphone (the latest one). Then when you next plug in your iphone/ipad drag and drop the 2.2 version in and hopefully that will work
dmuk
01-09-2013
HD6 was great for the united game but this arsenal game is constantly losing quality, pretty much unwatchable at full screen.
St@mmie
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by dmuk:
“HD6 was great for the united game but this arsenal game is constantly losing quality, pretty much unwatchable at full screen.”

I'm finding the opposite, I didn't watch the United game as I was at work but so far (hope I'm not tempting fate now) the Arsenal game has been flawless.
GaMeFaNaTiC
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by --jr--:
“I've had no problems with HD6 today which is good

I've also never ever had problem with the stream not being smooth, i think that's purely down to your setup and the browser you use

I'm running FRAPS ant it says it's playing between 30-35 FPS

Also when re-winding I've found if you only rewind once and watch from there its fine and doesnt freeze. So if you want to watch something earlier in the day. Refresh the stream and go back only once to that point (if you miss it refresh again and try again). Not sure why this is, and it could just be purely speculation but it works for me

Hope that helps”

What's your set up and browser?
clewsy
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by dmuk:
“HD6 was great for the united game but this arsenal game is constantly losing quality, pretty much unwatchable at full screen.”

Same for me as well.
dmuk
01-09-2013
The worst part is it skips some of the action when it reduces the quality, unacceptable for a pay service imo (even for a dodgily obtained one).

A real shame as the United game was close to flawless, but this has definitely turned into a mixed bag today.
pradda92
01-09-2013
Are you using Overplay? Do you get any improvement from switching between the two DNS servers that they provide and then restarting your browser?
lylina
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by dmuk:
“The worst part is it skips some of the action when it reduces the quality, unacceptable for a pay service imo (even for a dodgily obtained one).

A real shame as the United game was close to flawless, but this has definitely turned into a mixed bag today.”

Yeah, Arsenal game is totally unwatchable, switched to AS Roma game
saintalan
01-09-2013
With regard to the 'jerky ball movement in an otherwise excellent picture' that some of us have discussed.

Earlier I watched a bit of the Arsenal game and for me usual high quality. I had to go out and tried my Galaxy 4 with Sky Go and had a very watchable picture not as good as AJS but pretty good. I was using the BT WIFI FON public service.

The interesting point for me was that on the latter the ball was rolling perfectly even with the crowd or rolling ads in background.

Now given the vast superiority of my home equipment re my Galaxy spec the only major difference was using Sky from UK against AJS via a Geo-unblocker.

I don't really know how to analyse this but would think it holds some clue.

Cheers

Alan
--jr--
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by GaMeFaNaTiC:
“What's your set up and browser?”

i5 cpu, 7850 graphics card (pretty sure though its all down to cpu) windows 7 64 bit

Running on chrome, hardware acceleration turned off (think this made a difference actually)

Arsenal game was fantastic for me all the way through

Wired 60mb internet connection
bigalroden
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by --jr--:
“i5 cpu, 7850 graphics card (pretty sure though its all down to cpu) windows 7 64 bit

Running on chrome, hardware acceleration turned off (think this made a difference actually)

Arsenal game was fantastic for me all the way through

Wired 60mb internet connection”

I've got the same processor and graphics, although Sky internet is only a max of around 9mb - suspect that is reason I lose picture quality quite regularly?
But I haven't tried turning hardware acceleration off - is that via control panel, or just the Flash settings?
seankk
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by bigalroden:
“I've got the same processor and graphics, although Sky internet is only a max of around 9mb - suspect that is reason I lose picture quality quite regularly?
But I haven't tried turning hardware acceleration off - is that via control panel, or just the Flash settings?”

start stream.
right click anywhere in video ,
setting-->adobe flash settings(first from left) -->untick "enable"


does this really help ?
--jr--
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by bigalroden:
“I've got the same processor and graphics, although Sky internet is only a max of around 9mb - suspect that is reason I lose picture quality quite regularly?
But I haven't tried turning hardware acceleration off - is that via control panel, or just the Flash settings?”

Right click on the video
Settings
Should be a checkbox to untick on one of the tabs
seankk
01-09-2013
Just Turned OFF the "enable hardware accelration" , started watching barca on HD2.

constantly stop and start

when i enable it again it worked non stop , using CHROME
nexstar
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by arunan22:
“The stuttering I'm guessing is to do with Flash - hence why ipad streams are smoother. Guessing flash cant handle the streams as well as the ipad optimised technology can.”

This may well be the case. I guess 'stuttering' may not be the right word for what I see here but the PC streams are not as smooth as the iPad streams from either AJS or PLP but that may have more to do with my hardware than anything else.

As I've got a PLP sub and still got an active AJS 1 month sub (because I forgot to cancel it!), I thought I'd try to do some comparison screenshots of the two on both PC and iPad. They're not perfect because they are not quite at exactly the same point but they were the best I could manage. PLP was set at 3000bps but I don't know what AJS was streaming at although I do have a 15Mbps connection so it should have been fairly good.

This is AJS on the PC.

This is PLP on the PC.

This is AJS on the iPad mini.

This is PLP on the iPad mini.


Of course, what you don't get with PLP is anything other than Premier League footy!
reeves1985
01-09-2013
For me when I turn hardware acceleration off the picture gets worse (the jerkiness)

This is with a 30 meg virgin line using Firefox and hola unblocker (chrome is wise as is ie)
With a 3.0ghz dual core and cpu and radeon hd7750 gfx card
reeves1985
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by nexstar:
“This may well be the case. I guess 'stuttering' may not be the right word for what I see here but the PC streams are not as smooth as the iPad streams from either AJS or PLP but that may have more to do with my hardware than anything else.

As I've got a PLP sub and still got an active AJS 1 month sub (because I forgot to cancel it!), I thought I'd try to do some comparison screenshots of the two on both PC and iPad. They're not perfect because they are not quite at exactly the same point but they were the best I could manage. PLP was set at 3000bps but I don't know what AJS was streaming at although I do have a 15Mbps connection so it should have been fairly good.

This is AJS on the PC.

This is PLP on the PC.

This is AJS on the iPad mini.

This is PLP on the iPad mini.


Of course, what you don't get with PLP is anything other than Premier League footy!”

With PLP do you get the studio build up? Or is it just literally the game?

As in those screens PLP seems better quality
seankk
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by nexstar:
“This may well be the case. I guess 'stuttering' may not be the right word for what I see here but the PC streams are not as smooth as the iPad streams from either AJS or PLP but that may have more to do with my hardware than anything else.

As I've got a PLP sub and still got an active AJS 1 month sub (because I forgot to cancel it!), I thought I'd try to do some comparison screenshots of the two on both PC and iPad. They're not perfect because they are not quite at exactly the same point but they were the best I could manage. PLP was set at 3000bps but I don't know what AJS was streaming at although I do have a 15Mbps connection so it should have been fairly good.

This is AJS on the PC.

This is PLP on the PC.

This is AJS on the iPad mini.

This is PLP on the iPad mini.


Of course, what you don't get with PLP is anything other than Premier League footy!”

seems like i had not fully optimized at the point you took the photo..
AJS looks too snowy imo
seankk
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by reeves1985:
“For me when I turn hardware acceleration off the picture gets worse (the jerkiness)

This is with a 30 meg virgin line using Firefox and hola unblocker (chrome is wise as is ie)
With a 3.0ghz dual core and cpu and radeon hd7750 gfx card”


same here mate
on a core i5 , chrome laptop
seankk
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by nexstar:
“Of course, what you don't get with PLP is anything other than Premier League footy!”

lets wait when Champions League / Europa League / Interntaional Qualifiers Start...

AJS gives you 13,000 ( as they advertise) live events
vs
PLP gives you 380 matches.

Big Big Difference
nexstar
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by seankk:
“seems like i had not fully optimized at the point you took the photo..
AJS looks too snowy imo”

You may well be right. I left AJS for about 5 minutes as I had no control over the stream. The AJS stream had also locked up on me once so maybe the stream was automatically reduced as a result. I hadn't seen anything to compare the two so I just thought I'd try and grab something .

Originally Posted by seankk:
“lets wait when Champions League / Europa League / Interntaional Qualifiers Start...

AJS gives you 13,000 ( as they advertise) live events
vs
PLP gives you 380 matches.

Big Big Difference”

Yes, absolutely. It just depends what boxes you are looking to tick. Having had ADMC last season, I was just looking for some way of (mostly) seeing the team I support play without having to mortgage my soul to do it. I also needed it to be simple to use for other members of the household. With the PLP iOS app I can now do all of that but if I wanted other content then I wouldn't have a problem signing up for AJS either.
seankk
01-09-2013
no sure
whats going on at AJS
watching Barca on HD2..Quality goes from good to bad ....

just tried HD5,,,and it start and stops there


have these both from OVERPLAY as DNS Serevers

81.218...
196.46...

streams speed are 200-300KB/s . Outgoing

seems there some Incoming date , should that be ? dont have any P2P open
--jr--
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by nexstar:
“This may well be the case. I guess 'stuttering' may not be the right word for what I see here but the PC streams are not as smooth as the iPad streams from either AJS or PLP but that may have more to do with my hardware than anything else.

As I've got a PLP sub and still got an active AJS 1 month sub (because I forgot to cancel it!), I thought I'd try to do some comparison screenshots of the two on both PC and iPad. They're not perfect because they are not quite at exactly the same point but they were the best I could manage. PLP was set at 3000bps but I don't know what AJS was streaming at although I do have a 15Mbps connection so it should have been fairly good.

This is AJS on the PC.

This is PLP on the PC.

This is AJS on the iPad mini.

This is PLP on the iPad mini.


Of course, what you don't get with PLP is anything other than Premier League footy!”


This is what i get for AJS on pc

I had PLP for the day and thought AJS seemed crisper and better (my brother thought PLP had better colouring though)
They were on similar par in my opinion

Looking forward to the 4000kbps for AJS though
seankk
01-09-2013
Originally Posted by --jr--:
“This is what i get for AJS on pc

I had PLP for the day and thought AJS seemed crisper and better (my brother thought PLP had better colouring though)
They were on similar par in my opinion

Looking forward to the 4000kbps for AJS though”

great screen

whats your setup?

Thanks
bigalroden
02-09-2013
For those using Overplay and AJS, which DNS server do people find better?
176.67.84.19 or 178.79.166.52 ?
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