Penny, I hope you take no notice of that post. It's just mean spirited and unnecessary. I've just read the definition and it sounds like it could describe 99% of the population including me!! lol The other 1% are the self agrandising people who quote that at others just because they read it in a book once I think! Lots of people are still interested in JJJ and its not clear where they stand with each other at all still, especially with Josie newly single and them both being on friendlier terms and following each other on twitter. LittleGirlOf7 - if it aint broke don't fix it mate. Penny isn't doing any harm, just chats about something she is interested in with her friends on here. Have a little respect for peoples feelings maybe? That was very hurtful of you and I hope Penny doesn't take it to heart. If it bothers anyone, including "Dan" don't come on here and look perhaps. A lot of people still read this thread as shown by the viewing figures, who, like me, don't talk but still like to check in every now and then.

1. I think everyone knows after 5 year's where they stand with each other, they have BOTH made it clear.
2. Josie DOES NOT follow John James on twitter. Sorry to inform/ bring a FACT on here.
3 . Penny speaks to her friend not friends, as nobody answers here other than Sue. And Sue only answers when she can get her Laptop working !

Landm - In what way and when has either of them made anything clear? You could be right, I don't know for sure. I follow both on twitter. Some of Josies middle of the night drunken tweets that are deleted by the following morning have shown that she has strong feelings and deep sadness for someone. Do you think that could be Luke or John or maybe Bob the milkman has won her over. Who knows? No one. Not you or me. That's what has always been so alluring about both Josie and John. There has never been an obvious conclusion. And who would you have to be the voice of doom and gloom to every so often on here if Penny and Sue didn't post. If you question why they are still interested and here, why are you?

Josies "alleged" Drunken tweets lol, this is an AT meaning appreciation thread. Tell me and others what she's allegedly tweeted whilst drunk and then deleted please ???
Oh and I am right that Josie doesn't follow John James like you say ....Sorry

What others?? There is only Penny and Sue here according to you. I keep my eyes open, I find that's the best way to see. As this is like you rightly say an appreciation thread I would just like to say a big thank you to Penny and Sue for keeping this place going. Its good to know its still here, always near the top of the forum list, and nice to be able to pop in and have a re-read of better times occasionally. Best wishes to you both and hope you continue to enjoy chatting on here. xxx

How dare you suggest that my looking out for someone else's mental health is being "mean spirited". You encouraging her to perpetuate her behaviour is what's wrong. You say it's not doing anyone any harm. I'm not thinking about myself and you shouldn't be looking at it from how it doesn't effect you. Look at how it clearly effects her on a regular basis. It is not healthy to incessantly write the same thing over and over about a relationship between two people that doesn't exist, in the pathological hope that one day they will marry, non-stop for three years. That is not fine.


Just so we're clear, I don't read the thread regularly. For one thing, there's been nothing here of actual interest to read here since at least 2012. However, I was curious yesterday to see what on earth could be keeping this thread going and saw the post I responded to. I would urge Penelope to have a chat with someone about this as the inevitable continued dissatisfaction of the situation...Josie and John James never getting back together...will only hurt her more the longer she carries on this loop of behaviour.

It is not mean spirited to try and help someone move on to a less damaging way of thinking and hoping their life can be a bit better without the need to cling to a situation outside their own control. Saying, 'Don't take it to heart,' and 'You just carry on as you are' is not being kind. It's blocking the help they deserve to receive. This is a mental health issue, whether you find that uncomfortable or not to accept. I genuinely hope Penelope finds the support and help she needs for this issue.

Still waiting for you to show me these DRUNKEN tweets Josie has tweeted and deleted maybe to John James....Like I said Josie doesn't follow John James so why would she send DRUNK messages to him ??? Please show me facts and I will apologise!

You are obviously not a doctor or health worker as they would not be so unprofessional so if you are not qualified to diagnose its best not to. What you have said could cause upset and yes I hope Penny ignores you and doesn't get upset as she has done nothing wrong. It's your opinion not a medical fact. I could say you have a personality disorder such as being a narcissist but what do I know.. lol I'm just glad NHS direct came offline because when I read the symptom sorter I'd end up diagnosing myself with flatulistis encephaletic leprosy disorder or something haha. Keep calm and worry about yourself. You seem stressed.

You seem ignorant. [/notconfusedsmilie]

yes, yes I am. You need further study. Have you thought visiting your own GP as you have displayed another symptom. It could be worse than I thought.

OK, so you'd rather you turn the issue of mental health into a joke than take it seriously.

Ignorant.

Mistyy .Still waiting for these alleged drunken tweets Josie has sent to maybe John James .....Please show evidence of what you allege. I would like to see proof of Josies DRUNKEN tweets of love to John James. If you can't do that maybe you shouldn't make false accusations about people who are just going about their lives

No you have misunderstood. I'd rather turn the issue of you into a joke because that's all you are. Anyone genuinely concerned/medically qualified about someones state of mind would not publicly try to humiliate them on a forum in front of their friends. So why not try to get over your own pompous opinion of yourself and quit while you're behind.

Sorry I didn't mean to ignore. I have not accused anyone of anything. I never said Josie tweeted John. I just said what I've seen for myself in the early hours sometimes. I don't feel any need to go into further detail. Just stay up late and be more observant maybe.

Earlier you accused me of not taking other people's feelings into account. Yet you wish for someone to perpetuate their own disregard for people's feelings by continuing to publically insist two people who show no interest in reestablishing their broken relationship that they are somehow still a couple. It's not about humiliating someone. It's about showing them the reality of the situation and encouraging them to get the support they need.

By trying to turn the situation onto me you yourself are trying to ignore the actual issue. It is not a pompous opinion. You supporting Penelope's cycle of behaviour is not helping her.

1. Well then Say what you've seen in the early hours! We need to know LoL.
2. Well maybe you shouldn't make allegations about John James or Josie. If you then turn around and say that you don't FEEL ANY NEED to go into further detail tends to mean they're lies.

I'm actually more concerned with your mental health at the moment. Good luck to you. I hope you sort your own problems out and stop projecting your own issues onto Penny who is a lovely lady. There's lots of us JJJ loopy loopers about so you best order a job lot of white coats with special ties lol Ta ta xx

Again, dismissing the subject of mental health by brushing it aside and joking about being a loopy fan with others being carried off by those in white coats.

Penelope needs better friends.

Still waiting Mistyy for ....
1. Iv'e waited up all night for these mysterious Josie tweets (you know the DRUNKEN ONES SHE SENDS IN THE EARLY HOURS) and then deletes !!!!
2. Still waiting for the evidence of what you allege Josie of doing....Yep....still waiting
3. I guess your going to be one of them who come on here make an allegation and then don't back it up

Oh dear, are you still going? lol What you keep going on about was never the main purpose of this whole conversation. It was my personal observation, my personal opinion based on tweets that I saw as they happened and was only mentioned because you made a statement that you can't prove either. I just mentioned it because no one knows what the situation is between those two and that was the reason for my doubt. Not that I think or hope they will get back together but that no one knows anything for sure. Josie and Luke never seemed real, he was always the rebound. Josie looks fantastic now, she's single and if there were any residual feelings now would be the time so I will continue to keep my eyes open until they are closed. I wonder if John's going to Ibiza this year? lol You do what you like landm. Sorry you didn't also see those tweets but that's not my problem, I'm not here to serve you or dish any dirt or provide evidence of anything. I don't care lol I only came on because I think what Snowy said about Penny was disgusting and cruel and shouldn't be left unchallenged. See LiittleGirlof7's diagnosis applies to you and me too now. It's catching

Post for l gof 7 Well lookey here someone coming onto an appreciation thread to personally accuse another poster of having mental health problems , surely this is against the rules and regulations.. Given that pot kettle black comes to mind I am amazed you bother to even read a thread that includes Josie who you appear to dislike immensely a bit stalkerish wouldn't you say?
I doubt Penny has ever took in depth photos of Josie's tummy to prove she has had plastic surgery.

not the place and against the rules to address another poster in this way as you well know, stick to the subject of the thread rather than the poster

They say a party's not a party until queenie shows up lol. I've got a StRaNGe feeling all the posts will soon miraculously disappear very shortly and Penny and Sue can have their yard back

Hi Dan ielle? I hope you are well. What is all the wooden spoon action about. Why not come on here and air your views. It was nice of you to apologise to Penny for your comment on twitter. I'm not aledging anything by the way just made a passing comment on something I'd seen and got pounced on. I should have known better on here

Not looked in this thread for ages. I saw a story about Big Brother receiving over 1000 complaints about last year's winner Helen's behaviour towards Brian Belo and so was looking in the forum section to see what had happened. Saw this thread was still active at the top of the page so looked to see what on earth could be keeping it going. I saw a post which clearly displayed something which showed signs of something that needs intervention. IT IS perseveration and it needs to be addressed. Perhaps it was provident timing. I'm sure if it was someone else highlighting it you wouldn't have jumped on them so fervently. After all, you dislike me immensely so it's no surprise.

BIB - Neither have I. I have never taken any photos of Josie's tummy. I've questioned the appearance of an apparent scar on her tummy in a pre-existing photo which was of a size and in a place known to be consistent with gastric band treatment.



It's the subject of the thread that the very issue for the poster. I would rather intervene and risk my place on the forum than simply sit back and leave that person to spiral even further into a mental health cul-de-suc. This is beyond the DS forum and it's rules. It's about this person's well being in the real world. You might be willing to ignore the issue but I'm not.

#teammistyy

Is there really any need to come on here accusing someone of being mentally ill?
Below the belt and trying to cause trouble I think.
I'm sure LG of 7 has more important stuff she could be doing.
Like scrutinising belly buttons for instance