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Old 14-08-2013, 09:34
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The current writers clearly have no idea that Peggy and Sharon were NOT enemies when Sharon left the Square in 2006- the recent news that Peggy would not be in the Square for Lexi's Christening was because Peggy hated Sharon.

I wonder if Letitia and Barbara will be sharing any scenes for Peggy's comeback episode.
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Old 15-08-2013, 01:59
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they will be but im furious because the storyline has nothing to do with sharon whatsoever

if sharon is so important in this episode why isnt she more involved in phils storyline before it? seems a complete retcon that peggy would think its all sharon fault there doesnt seem to be any build up at all to a sharon and peggy fight
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Old 15-08-2013, 02:08
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they will be but im furious because the storyline has nothing to do with sharon whatsoever

if sharon is so important in this episode why isnt she more involved in phils storyline before it? seems a complete retcon that peggy would think its all sharon fault there doesnt seem to be any build up at all to a sharon and peggy fight
The characters go way back to Peggy's re-introduction in the guise of Barbara Windsor and have more history between them than Peggy has with probably any other character left on the show bar Phil. To completely ignore this and have no interaction between the two characters would be utterly pathetic writing.
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Old 15-08-2013, 02:10
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The characters go way back to Peggy's re-introduction in the guise of Barbara Windsor and have more history between them than Peggy has with probably any other character left on the show bar Phil. To completely ignore this and have no interaction between the two characters would be utterly pathetic writing.
I wouldnt be so bothered if this storyline was about sharon and phil but its not, she has her own story with denny, phil doesnt even want to be with sharon so i dont see why peggy would have a problem with her when phils come to his senses
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Old 15-08-2013, 02:15
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I wouldnt be so bothered if this storyline was about sharon and phil but its not, she has her own story with denny, phil doesnt even want to be with sharon so i dont see why peggy would have a problem with her when phils come to his senses
It doesn't matter if Sharon's involved in the storyline or not. There's no law stating Peggy can only be involved in one storyline when she returns. If they want to have a subplot based around her relationship with Sharon then they absolutely should for aforementioned reasons. They've ignored quite enough history lately. To brush their relationship under the carpet as if it never existed would be a momentously stupid thing to do.
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Old 15-08-2013, 02:17
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It doesn't matter if Sharon's involved in the storyline or not. There's no law stating Peggy can only be involved in one storyline when she returns. If they want to have a subplot based around her relationship with Sharon then they absolutely should for aforementioned reasons. They've ignored quite enough history lately. To brush their relationship under the carpet as if it never existed would be a momentously stupid thing to do.
Well why not have sharon more involved. it would be so obvious its just done for history to suddenly throw sharon back in the mix when shes not even had any scenes with phil over the last month. Their r/ship was defined cos of phils love for sharon so without that it seems pointless to have them arguing
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Old 15-08-2013, 02:20
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Well why not have sharon more involved. it would be so obvious its just done for history to suddenly throw sharon back in the mix when shes not even had any scenes with phil over the last month. Their r/ship was defined cos of phils love for sharon so without that it seems pointless to have them arguing
Phil still loves Sharon though.... That's the point.
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Old 15-08-2013, 07:40
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Peggy will never forgive her for what happened. No matter what scenes they've done since she will never trust her where her family, particularly her 'boys' are involved. I doubt it will be a big thing, just a nod to the old days to keep the long-time viewers as their arguments were normally hilarious. Doubt there's any need for anyone to be furious about it!
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Old 15-08-2013, 08:50
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Peggy will never forgive her for what happened. No matter what scenes they've done since she will never trust her where her family, particularly her 'boys' are involved. I doubt it will be a big thing, just a nod to the old days to keep the long-time viewers as their arguments were normally hilarious. Doubt there's any need for anyone to be furious about it!
But Peggy did forgive Sharon, especially after Sharon helped the Mitchells get Sam out of prison. When Sharon left the Square in January 06, she and Peggy were on good terms; Sharon was even living at the Vic with Peggy and Phil. The writers have obviously forgotten this, or just chosen to ignore it, because somehow Peggy suddenly hates her again
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Old 15-08-2013, 09:02
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Well we all know how the current writers have trashed Sharon dont we?
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Old 15-08-2013, 09:11
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But Peggy did forgive Sharon, especially after Sharon helped the Mitchells get Sam out of prison. When Sharon left the Square in January 06, she and Peggy were on good terms; Sharon was even living at the Vic with Peggy and Phil. The writers have obviously forgotten this, or just chosen to ignore it, because somehow Peggy suddenly hates her again
I don't really recall Peggy forgiving Sharon; it was pretty weird circumstances: Sharon just having lost Dennis - what was Peggy going to do? I honestly don't see it as that large a retcon. Yes, it looked like they had moved on; but Sharon was obviously not compus mentus at the time; and one could argue that Peggy was just being nice and sympathetic to Sharon. I can easily see there being enough room to write it that Peggy fears Sharon getting her claws into one of her boys again.

I think that is it really: Peggy would still feel that Sharon destroyed her family; that her boys were never the same again. I don't recal Peggy forgiving that at all. So, of all ee poetic license in recet years, this one is pretty minor IMO.
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Old 15-08-2013, 09:50
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I don't really recall Peggy forgiving Sharon; it was pretty weird circumstances: Sharon just having lost Dennis - what was Peggy going to do? I honestly don't see it as that large a retcon. Yes, it looked like they had moved on; but Sharon was obviously not compus mentus at the time; and one could argue that Peggy was just being nice and sympathetic to Sharon. I can easily see there being enough room to write it that Peggy fears Sharon getting her claws into one of her boys again.

I think that is it really: Peggy would still feel that Sharon destroyed her family; that her boys were never the same again. I don't recal Peggy forgiving that at all. So, of all ee poetic license in recet years, this one is pretty minor IMO.
Of course, and I'm not suggesting at all that Sharon and Peggy's relationship would be all love and warmth () on Peggy's return. I have no doubt they will fall out again before long; Peggy's probably only back for 60 minutes, so they'll have to fit a row in there somewhere!
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Old 15-08-2013, 10:07
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I don't really recall Peggy forgiving Sharon; it was pretty weird circumstances: Sharon just having lost Dennis - what was Peggy going to do? I honestly don't see it as that large a retcon. Yes, it looked like they had moved on; but Sharon was obviously not compus mentus at the time; and one could argue that Peggy was just being nice and sympathetic to Sharon. I can easily see there being enough room to write it that Peggy fears Sharon getting her claws into one of her boys again.

I think that is it really: Peggy would still feel that Sharon destroyed her family; that her boys were never the same again. I don't recal Peggy forgiving that at all. So, of all ee poetic license in recet years, this one is pretty minor IMO.
This basically.

No matter where things were left between them, Peggy always associates Sharon with the fallout between her ‘precious boys.’ I think the reason she was more civil to Sharon last time was more to the fact that she had finally moved on to someone else and for once wasn’t the cause of conflict within her family.

I too initially thought it odd that Peggy used Sharon as an excuse not to go to the christening, but considering Babs wasn’t returning, and the turbulent history between Peggy and Sharon, it’s not too unrealistic.

If Peggy visits Phil in hospital and Sharon is there, I wouldn’t be too surprised if she is hostile towards Sharon – will probably wrongly assume that Sharon is involved and therefore somewhat to blame. Even if that hostility is misplaced, it would actually be out of character for Peggy not to lay a part of the blame at Sharon’s door.
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Old 15-08-2013, 10:10
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But sharon isnt to blame and shes got the wrong woman.
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Old 15-08-2013, 10:16
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Hopefully we may see the fesity Sharon if she faces Peggy...
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Old 15-08-2013, 10:42
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As much as I didn't care for Peggy Mitchell most of the time I always enjoyed her fiery relationship with Sharon. I hope they have a few scenes together in Peggy's return episode. Sharon's 2001 comeback scene owes a lot to Peggy being the character to get the shock of a lifetime when Sharon appeared behind the bar. Hopefully they can pull off something equally as camp this time around. I couldn't care less if she shares the screen with Shirley to be perfectly frank.
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Old 15-08-2013, 11:00
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Peggy/Sharon over Peggy/Shirley
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Old 15-08-2013, 11:02
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Peggy/Sharon over Peggy/Shirley
Not according to the spoilers. Wondering when the peggy ep is though
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Old 15-08-2013, 11:05
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I think your right - I am guessing its Peggy who disturbs Shirley.
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Old 15-08-2013, 11:06
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I think your right - I am guessing its Peggy who disturbs Shirley.
Im not sure yet, cos peggy would go straight to phil. But what i meant is that ahirl is more involved in it than sharon.
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Old 15-08-2013, 11:53
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This basically.

No matter where things were left between them, Peggy always associates Sharon with the fallout between her ‘precious boys.’ I think the reason she was more civil to Sharon last time was more to the fact that she had finally moved on to someone else and for once wasn’t the cause of conflict within her family.

I too initially thought it odd that Peggy used Sharon as an excuse not to go to the christening, but considering Babs wasn’t returning, and the turbulent history between Peggy and Sharon, it’s not too unrealistic.

If Peggy visits Phil in hospital and Sharon is there, I wouldn’t be too surprised if she is hostile towards Sharon – will probably wrongly assume that Sharon is involved and therefore somewhat to blame. Even if that hostility is misplaced, it would actually be out of character for Peggy not to lay a part of the blame at Sharon’s door.
Exactly; agree very much.
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Old 15-08-2013, 12:08
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I feel all this Sharon argument thing with Peggy may be for long term benefit. It's the 'reason' Peggy can't come back much, if Sharon is there.
Everyone couldn't understand when she couldn't come back because of Sharon previously, but maybe not here is a 'reason'. It's pretty stupid though. Peggy would never let someone stop her doing what she wants
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Old 15-08-2013, 12:28
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I feel all this Sharon argument thing with Peggy may be for long term benefit. It's the 'reason' Peggy can't come back much, if Sharon is there.
Everyone couldn't understand when she couldn't come back because of Sharon previously, but maybe not here is a 'reason'. It's pretty stupid though. Peggy would never let someone stop her doing what she wants
Peggy was always a little fearful of Sharon - yes, Peggy would throw down with her - but outside the insults, Peggy fears the hold Sharon has over her boys: always has, always will.
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Old 15-08-2013, 12:50
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a Sharon/Grant reunion would be interesting...
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Old 15-08-2013, 12:56
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Peggy was always a little fearful of Sharon - yes, Peggy would throw down with her - but outside the insults, Peggy fears the hold Sharon has over her boys: always has, always will.
Yeah. And she wouldn't back down
She sees that the woman she despises is back.. So Peggy hides? and leaves her to it
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