Of course disabled people should be 'allowed' into BB if they have the personality that BB is looking for. To deny someone a place BECAUSE they are disabled, even if they fit all other criteria is just pure prejudice imo.
If the person isnt liked, then the public wont vote for them, easy as that, doesnt matter if they are disabled, gay, transgender overweight or whatever.
The myth that Nadia won BB because she was a transexual is just that, a myth. where was the 'sympathy vote' for her at the start?, she was very long odds to win, and even on this forum at the start she was way way down in the polls. Even though(or possible because) everyone knew about her gender change. It was because people grew to like her as a person that she gained popularity and won.
The same would go for a disabled person, if people like the characater , the they will vote accordingly, and vica-versa.

Yes absoloutely, anyone who says its because she was "not a normal girl" its just sour grapes

Or a couple of plums

Seriously though I would hope that BB would allow disabled contestants.. has to be based on merit though, having a disabled hm just to "even the balance" would not be right

If you mocked Victor because of his behaviour, then there is no problem. If mocked him because of the colour of his skin/race, then there certainly is a problem with that. If you are going to mock a disbled person for his/her behaviour and not the disability, the same goes.

There are stupid black people as well as stupid disabled people - it's not the persons colour/race or disability that should be an issue.

As for the tasks, the Para-olympics seemed to show that disabled people are able to cope with quite a lot of physical exercise and are quite good at it! Bring 'em on!!

Yes it shows that you don't know anyone with a disability. Well, here's one, me! I'm in my 30's, born with a illness which affects the spine so I've never been able to walk. I've been confined to using a wheelchair since my Mum couldn't carry me any more from the age of about 5 when really you don't carry your kids about too much after that age anyway do you, it's not done. I have lived independently in my own place since I was 18 with very little help and I manage just fine. I talk coherently, have the best sense of humour in the family, the loudest voice, the biggest baddest temper, the most wayout personality, I'm generally mad but in a nice way, sort of.

Now, about the BB house, the only reason I am hesitant about auditioning is because of the still quite frankly out of date and tune attitude to disability. I would not expect or want people keeping me in on a public vote because I have a disability, nor would I want fellow housemates being voted out either just because they were up against 'poor' little me in the wheelchair or because they didn't fawn all over me and panda to my every whim. I would just like to be treated the same as everyone else by hm's and public alike. I think I could manage in there if BB gave it all a bit of thought first when if they accepted me to go in. They could ask me what I need, (I don't have high standards) and I'm sure the majority of things once thought through and carried out properly would hopefully make it so I could join in as much as anyone else and blend in with the walls successfully so no one would notice me and I'd win, nice one! Well, either that or they'd forget about me, period, and I'd just be left in there. No, seriously, I'm loud, that wouldn't happen. I'm not anything like Jade or Narinder though thank god, more of an Anoushka, I wish!

Saying all that I do know others with all different ranges of disability some who may not cope in those circumstances. My main point is, disability doesn't necessarily mean 'needs carers'.

Having someone who is disabled in the BB house would be fine although

1.Depending on the persons disability.The tasks would have to be planned out so he/she could take part.I mean there is no point of them doing an assualt course task if he/she is in a wheelchair.

2.If you have someone that is disabled,would they get the sympathy vote if they were up for eviction?.

Please note in no way am i trying to be disrespectful

I think it always needs a person to take the brunt of the first hit of insecure awkwardness of the masses, after that people will get normal.

And I repeat if you would be in with other people having similar dispositions, the focus wouldn't be on one person.

John hardly made the ones in the house. And I would have liked to see Jackie crawling through the shit, all kitted out with a glass of Chardonnay.

Thank you for your honest (and thought provoking) response. I can see where you are coming from. I didnt intend for what i wrote to be in anyway disrespectful and I'm sorry if it was! (in retrospect what i put was probably a bit of a generalisation.)

You sound as if you would quite like that.

I didn't take it as disrespectful really, don't worry. It's just me getting on me soapbox.

What a picture in my head that makes!

If you have someone Who is black ,would they get the black vote if they were up for eviction?.

Disabled people are no more vulnerable than non disabled. Most disabled people live fully independent life

I have epilepsy, dyslexia and dyspraxia and I consider what you say extremely insulting Further more I think the house would have been lot more safety with me in it than it was with victor and Jason .

What's more the language you use to describe disability is regard as discriminating language. I f someone in the house used the terms mentally disabled or handicap they would get the similar reaction from a disabled person as a racist would of got from victor

What has that got to do with the orignal question i asked?


If you bothered to read my question i make no mention of anyone that is Black.
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You asked “If you have someone that is disabled, would they get the sympathy vote if they were up for eviction?”
My argument is that an identical question could be asked about race and that dos not stop BB having black housemates so who should it stop them having disabled housemates,

2 different issues

I never ever said that Disabled people couldn't go on BB

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I never ever said that Disabled people couldn't go on BB/QUOTE]



It is not 2 different issues

If a disable person could get the sympathy vote; a black person could get the black vote

So if you ask: “If you have someone that is disabled, would they get the sympathy vote if they were up for eviction?” You also need to ask: “If you have someone who is black, would they get the black vote if they were up for eviction?”


You say that you never ever said that Disabled people couldn't go on BB. Then why ask the question in the first place.

I've skimmed this thread (very consciously - admittedly, partly because i hoped not to find a cause to challenge [i just couldn't be arsed ])

However, it's funny how, with few exceptions (cel_001, willhung and, the thread-starter), few, if any, seem recognize mental disability as existing and valid. Muchly seems to be automatically made of assumed physical disabilities.

I make no real substantive comment, other than, given a culture (growing strength by strength) where it would appear that confessional of some kind of addictive/'mental' weakness is deemed to be unquestionable grounds for veracity and credibility - does the same not apply to those labouring under organic mental-health disorders?

If, to be confessional, is viewed to be 'real' and 'deserved' and 'worthy', in the context of an RTV gameshow - then ought not all have some kind of 'Trisha' factor to allow a level-playing-field?

Not really. A person with a mental disability might have already been in the house. Depression is very common (i.e. my partner) , Bez might be a polysomething forgot the word. [Like alcoholic but using all/many drugs]. Some oddities of character traits might fall under some metal health description. The problem remains the label I think.
Jon could have well been anything from autistic to asperger spectrum..

Most of us are handicapped in some way .. who is perfect .. nobody. What before is a character trait suddenly gets a medical label. Helpful in therapy unhelpful socially. There was an interesting documentary on psychopaths. Usually a psychopath is seen as a serial killer. But if a psychopath doesnt kill he might well be a successful businessman who just hasn't any compassion. An extreme egoist. Or more positively when a psychopath has no fear he might do extreme "sports" to at least feel something.

Maybe in the future we talk about morally disabled people ... yet another unexplored field of labeling.

is this still going???
this poster has a tendancy to misread posts and not comprehend points being made. danys entire posting history is littered with misunderstandings and has never once admitted to being incorrect. although it is fun to read the posts i suggest you dont get too emotionally or mentally involved.

Again as I mentioned I have no personal experience with disabled people and meant no offence by what I wrote. Vicky7 eloquently pointed out what aspects of my message were wrong and I reconsidered. I also apologised to her for my misconceptions.

What language is acceptable (to you and others) so I dont get another verbal bashing from you? I had no intention of being discriminating, merely expressing concerns I had (which Vicky7 pointed out could be overcome).

People with disabilities are still people..why shouldn't they apply if they choose to

Let people be judged as individuals

Dany do you even bother to read my posts?


The public is going to have more sympathy for someone who is disabled rather than the color of somebodys skin.

The reason why i asked the question is because i was giving my opinion.Something which i thought you were allowed to do here

There are some members of the public who believe that the only reason there has never been a black BB winner is because of racism. If you red some of the Any black winner you will find posts from people have admitted to have sympathy towards housemates because of the colour of somebody’s skin. Black people experience prejudiced because the colour of their skin.

Disabled people experience prejudiced the because of their impairment

There are people who might vote for a house mate purely because of the colour of their skin.

There are people who might vote for a house mate purely because of their impairment

There are people who might vote against a house mate purely because of the colour of their skin.

There are people who might vote against a house mate purely because of their impairment