Seeing that it doesn't seem to have been mentioned yet in this forum, Argos has started to list a new Humax PVR called the HDR-2000T that could be a replacement for the HDR FOX-T2. But, according to an expert in this forum, the HDR-2000T is still in development and isn't ready to launch yet.

The Argos page appears to show an image of the existing model and to list the same specs, so we don't know how the new model will differ from the old one. The price quoted (£179.95) is also the same as it is charging for the 500GB FOX-T2, which it reduced recently (presumably in preparation for the new model). Amazon has also cut its price to the same level.

The new model is also being discussed here.

Most Argos branches are showing the new model as being out of stock but curiously a branch near me says it has one available. I am tempted to reserve it to see what they give me.

Somebody else has done that and received (and rejected) an HDR-FOX T2.

That's a pity. I have a £20 Argos voucher from yesterday's Daily Telegraph that I have to use by 23rd. So, do I use it to buy the HDR-Fox T2 for £159.95 or wait to see if the new model is a real improvement or merely a repackaging, like the YouView DTR-T1000/T1010?

We could, of course, find out that Argos is wrong with its price for the new model (as it is with the other details) so the new model could cost £300 or more if/when it arrives, putting it in a different price league. In that case, Humax may continue to sell the HDR-Fox T2 alongside the new PVR.

My guess (and I stress guess, I have no inside information) is that HDR-2000 will be similar to the HDR-FOX T2 but will feature a more powerful processor, have more catchup channels and will support IPTV.

I'll be interested to see how it fares, but it'll probably be a lot more locked down software wise than the Fox T2.

I'm already unimpressed with how limiting the Youview boxes are to the consumer.

This is not necessarily the case because the new PVR has (I presume) been designed entirely by Humax, while it builds the YouView boxes to a specification drawn up by the YouView committee, which probably excludes any customisation.

BTW, I did reserve an "HDR-2000" at Argos. When I went to pick it up, the man at customer services assured me that it was indeed the new model - because the computer said so. Of course, when he brought it out, it was a Fox T2

This HDR-2000 only seems to be on the website. In store the catalogues have the T2, as has the new Autumn/Winter book.

I bought a HDR-T2 last week, and at the checkout they said that if the item is not available they will supply an item of similar specification(I think this is standard), so I thought is it a T-2000, but no it wasn't.

Perhaps when they were keying in the descriptions they got confused with the Terminator toys.

HDR 2000T now available to buy from Humax Direct according to post on myhumax forum Link

Yes, we've just received ordering information from Humax Trade for them this morning.

No front panel display, but it has increased memory.

I my opinion, it seems to be a 'cheaper' version of the HDR Fox-T2.

I would grab a HDR T2 before they supply runs out if I were you! I already have 3.

Hmm, doesn't really seem any different from the Fox T2 HDR in features, although it may have better picture quality than the Fox if their YouView and Freetime boxes are anything to go by.

Wonder if it's capable of using the IPTV channels now, and of course the big question is will it be able to use custom firmware?

It SHOULD be, Humax's press coverage states that the VuTV pay channels "will be" available (nothing about the other MHEG-IC channels via the portals on LCNs 225 up).

Post April 2011, any box tested has to comply with the newer D-Book specification that includes MHEG-IC however IF this is simply a HDR Fox T2 in sheep's clothing, it would not have to be retested in the same way the Vestel FVHD boxes reappear occasionally on different cases.

Just had a promotional email announcing the HDR-2000T.

New HDR-2000T HD PVR, Warranty extension & Happy Birthday

Dear Humax user,

Having the same functionality as the Freeview HDR-FoxT2 but in a smaller form factor and with the front display removed to reduce cost, the HDR-2000T is the perfect addition to our PVR range, please click on the image below for further details.



Its that time of year again, and as usual we have extended our warranties to allow you to purchase for Christmas now without being disadvantaged from a warranty perspective.

Is there now native 1080p support on this box? (ie: no third party chip to do it)

Folks, Homebase are doing 15% off everything this weekend and the HDR2000T can be had for £156.94 delivered!
Use code DISCOUNT15 in checkout.

And there's a further 3% cashback available if you go via Quidco or via TopCashBack.

Now the decision: Whether to go for this for just over £150 delivered (with a two-year warranty, but no display), or a graded Fox T2 for £145 delivered (with a one-year warranty, a built-in display and the ability to customise)? Tough one.

FOX T2 / 2000T
FLASH: 32MB / 128MB
RAM: 320MB / 512MB
HDMI: 1.3a / 1.4a
Operating Power Consumption: 28W /13W
IPTV support: N/A / MHEG-IC
PSU: Internal / External

I think I'd forgo the display for the possibility of future updates/features which could require the additional FLASH and RAM.

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/specshe...T2_leaflet.pdf

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/specshe...x-hdr2000t.pdf

I wonder whether the power consumption figure includes the external power supply? It could be a sneaky way of making the power consumption look better than it really is. Otherwise, if the hardware hasn't changed much, it is hard to see how they could have cut the power consumption by more than half. Perhaps I'm being too cynical.

The fact that this can get the IPTV channels is a good selling point.

I'd still like to know what improvements there are under the hood though. Things like better picture quality and native 1080p support would be good.

No offense, but from a technical standpoint this statement doesn't make much sense.
Power savings are likely from a more efficient hard disk, chip die efficiencies and the lack of a display, among other tweaks.

No offence taken, and I can see that removing the display will save several watts. But Humax don't seem to be claiming this is a significant redesign - their recent email promotion described the new PVR as a "having the same functionality as the Freeview HDR-FoxT2 but in a smaller form factor and with the front display removed to reduce cost". There were no claims of any technical improvements.

A power supply does consume quite a few watts, so moving it outside the box would reduce the consumption of the box itself. But, for all I know, Humax could be including the external supply in the power rating.

Anyway, the bottom line is that I am going to order the new PVR - and hope that it will be more reliable than my ageing 9200T has been recently.

Which is it? That is a whopping difference in functionality.

For whatever reason, the Humax email seemed to be underselling the new PVR.

When I got around to placing my order, I was told (after filling in all of my details) that the product is not available!

Yep, looks like there are none left.

I'm waiting for someone to crack one open and take a look inside before I put down any money. Perhaps a picture quality analysis, is it 1080p native, is the CPU the same, etc.

If this is a faster box than the FOX T2 and produces better image quality then I'm sold.