Just looking at the map for the roll out and noticed 2 small villages near me which are rural are getting it by 31/12/13, yet large towns with 10 times the population close by arent and are 'under evaulation'.

for instance llanderfel has a pop of 800 , bala pop 2000 about a mile away not

You have to be patient the roll out is expected to be completed in 2 to 3 years.

just seem strange that little villages close by are getting it, yet the bigger towns dont even have a date yet

All will depend on 2 factors does the towns already already have super-fast broadband in Virgin Media?

Secondly they'll have to decide on how much work is going to be needed on the exchange/s to bring it up to the required standard for fibre they will get updated eventually but they'll be looking at the cost and they've maybe decided it will be too high currently

no VM its rural west wales

The local authority may be subsidising the installation.

More like it government .... And some BBC contribution ..
See the DCMS website. https://www.gov.uk/government/polici...band-programme

The rollout has finally reached my village. Every cabinet in the village apart from mine has been fibre enabled. I'm very annoyed.

According to Openreach it wasn't commercially viable. Guess I'm stuck with a 3mb connection forever

There is an initiative of this kind in North Yorkshire - Superfast North Yorkshire - which has resulted in small villages such as Osmotherley already having FTTC while here in Redcar (pop. ca. 35000) we have to wait until next year. Central Middlesbrough isn't even under consideration yet although some of its suburbs already have FTTC.

The presence of Virgin doesn't appear to be a factor as Guisborough has Virgin and has had FTTC for a couple of years now, despite being smaller than Redcar. In my area affluence seems to be a factor - Guisborough is a market town and noticeably better off than Redcar!

Not necessarily, you can always go with 4G if it rolls out to your area.

The presence of Virgin has NOTHING to do with where BT decide to roll out FTTC. They have their own calculations that they do on each cabinet. It is based of affluence data, customer numbers, takeup of ADSL services and current speeds on the cabinet.

Yep. My exchange and nearly all its cabinets was fibred-up in year one of the rollout in spite of Virgin Media being solidly established throughout the area for many years.

So the presence of Virgin could be a factor - if take-up of Virgin Broadband is very high, one might expect that take-up of ADSL will be lower than in a non-Virgin area. This would perhaps then influence BT into delaying FTTC roll-out to these areas.

Take-up of Virgin's services is very high in some areas of Redcar - perhaps why FTTC is so late arriving here.

Which is a joke when most of York (pop 220,000) is stuck on a crap connection. I say crap, if you're with BT it's a frakking hit and miss if you're even connected.

Didn't consider Redcar to be Yorkshire by the way. Thought it was a suburb of Middlesbrough

Redcar was historically part of Yorkshire (as was Middlesbrough, of which Redcar is definitely not just a suburb!)until the 1974 rearrangements which put it into Cleveland. Since Cleveland has now been abolished, I consider Redcar to be a Yorkshire town again, the county's northernmost town in fact.

Despite the abolition of Cleveland, however, Redcar is still not administratively back in North Yorkshire and so doesn't benefit from Superfast North Yorkshire. However, as Virgin is available here there is an alternative for fast broadband - isn't this also the case in the City of York?

What county is it officially in now? North Yorkshire?

If so it's Yorkshire, simple as that. Surely there's no consideration needed