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Old 21-08-2013, 12:00
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I don't think 10 years ago people would have thought a ballroom dancing show would have been one of the biggest shows of the decade across the whole world.

So what if GBBO is about baking, it's clearly huge popular.
The difference being that dancing is a direct form of entertainment, the sort of glitzy "let your hair down" fun people like on a weekend - it could easily have failed but the show and format happened to be good, so it worked.

This is different - it's gentle, it's serene, quirky and ultimately, RELAXING. How does that work on a Saturday? Of course it could still do okay, but that depends what ITV are showing. It's a pointless move.

It's midweek escapism, not weekend entertainment - unless, as said, it manages to work on a Sunday. But still a risk, for minimal gain.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:02
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Biggest BBC2 rating of the year so far is 6.01m (20.4%) for Top Gear on 10th March. Should be surpassed by GBBO in the coming weeks.
Although worth pointing out that doesn't include HD. If it does that rises to over 7m.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:03
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Although worth pointing out that doesn't include HD. If it does that rises to over 7m.
That's the overnight rating and it does include HD. The official rating including HD is indeed above 7m.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:08
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That's the overnight rating and it does include HD. The official rating including HD is indeed above 7m.
Ah okay apologies!
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:12
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However you look at it BBC Two has been amazingly successful in terms of factual/entertainment..."The Great British Bake Off" "The Sewing Bee" "Springwatch" "Top Gear" "Rick Stien India" and drama "Top of the Lake" "The Fall". Its a terrific channel and I would say has the most invention on it. Hadlow has masteted the channel that hardly had any drama a while ago and she really knows how to build a good schedule each day despite the cuts to her daytime budget Two seems to florish
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:12
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Through the Keyhole looks suspiciously early to me for the sort of show it is going to be [lots of swearing, rude humour]. I got a feeling this schedule could change lots by tomorrows confirmation, it might be like that to trick the bbc schedulers.
You mean for a show that when it was on the BBC in the Afternoon, no swearing or rude humour then.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:18
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However you look at it BBC Two has been amazingly successful in terms of factual/entertainment..."The Great British Bake Off" "The Sewing Bee" "Springwatch" "Top Gear" "Rick Stien India" and drama "Top of the Lake" "The Fall". Its a terrific channel and I would say has the most invention on it. Hadlow has masteted the channel that hardly had any drama a while ago and she really knows how to build a good schedule each day despite the cuts to her daytime budget Two seems to florish
Don't forget The Choir and Michel Roux's Service both great shows IMO.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:21
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New voting system for X Factor.

'The X Factor' is to introduce a new 200-second voting system on Saturday nights.

ITV Bosses have decided to shake up the talent show by giving viewers just over three minutes after every wannabe pop star has performed to pick up the phone and save their favourite from the chop, before the act with the lowest vote becomes the first to face the axe on Sunday.

In a bid to keep viewers hooked on the show, they will be asked to vote again on Sunday and the lowest-scoring performer will join the one from the previous day, but as part of the new twist, if the judges - Louis Walsh, Sharon Osbourne, Gary Barlow and Nicole Scherzinger - go to deadlock, the act who received the lowest vote on Saturday will automatically get the boot.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:31
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If any remotely successful BBC2 show is automatically moved to BBC1 there is really no role for BBC2 other than as a nursery for 1.
Bit like how BBC4 is/was perceived as a feeder to 2.

Great start to the GBBO.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:31
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Masterchef - scheduling completely erratic, thrown all over the place.
Currently on more or less at the same time it was on BBC2.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:36
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Don't forget The Choir and Michel Roux's Service both great shows IMO.
Absolutely I was just listing the most successful that I can remember but there has also been "Mock the Week" "The Apprentice: Your Fired" "QI" "The Politicians Husband" "The Hairy Bikers" and "Peaky Blinders" and "Line of Duty" still to come. Its got a golden touch on commissioning programmes just now.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:36
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Bit like how BBC4 is/was perceived as a feeder to 2.

Great start to the GBBO.
BBC2's brief has always been to provide alternative programming to what is on BBC1 (although sometimes that doesn't work with sport). BBC1 is planned first but 2 has its own distinctive personality which has worked well for years.Under DQF BBC4 is now regarded as a feeder for 2.Can anyone think of a successful BBC1 show that has been transplanted to BBC2 ?
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:38
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New voting system for X Factor.

'The X Factor' is to introduce a new 200-second voting system on Saturday nights.

ITV Bosses have decided to shake up the talent show by giving viewers just over three minutes after every wannabe pop star has performed to pick up the phone and save their favourite from the chop, before the act with the lowest vote becomes the first to face the axe on Sunday.

In a bid to keep viewers hooked on the show, they will be asked to vote again on Sunday and the lowest-scoring performer will join the one from the previous day, but as part of the new twist, if the judges - Louis Walsh, Sharon Osbourne, Gary Barlow and Nicole Scherzinger - go to deadlock, the act who received the lowest vote on Saturday will automatically get the boot.
Please tell me I'm missing something, but isn't there a glaring problem here - how are you supposed to know WHO you want to vote for until they have performed? Some people actually vote for their favourite on the night, but this pretty much makes that impossible as effectively you have to take a risk, although of course you can vote again if the next performer is better - oh wait, of course, it's a vote phone grabbing technique

The Sunday vote, apart from getting extra votes from the same viewers, is clearly a bit of a back up in order to save good people from going, as by the sounds of it they'll be much more vulnerable to ending up bottom 2.

That said, I like they're doing something different with voting. Not sure this is it mind...
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:44
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Please tell me I'm missing something, but isn't there a glaring problem here - how are you supposed to know WHO you want to vote for until they have performed? Some people actually vote for their favourite on the night, but this pretty much makes that impossible as effectively you have to take a risk, although of course you can vote again if the next performer is better - oh wait, of course, it's a vote phone grabbing technique

The Sunday vote, apart from getting extra votes from the same viewers, is clearly a bit of a back up in order to save good people from going, as by the sounds of it they'll be much more vulnerable to ending up bottom 2.

That said, I like they're doing something different with voting. Not sure this is it mind...
I think the 3 minutes is after every act has performed.

Designed obviously to keep people watching until the end on the Saturday as there will be a 'partial' result.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:47
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Terrific performance from Bake Off. How high can it go from here?

Poor for the heavily promoted Top Boy, beaten by a below par CSI:NY episode which was part crime procedural part advert for Green Day's latest CD.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:52
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I think the 3 minutes is after every act has performed.

Designed obviously to keep people watching until the end on the Saturday as there will be a 'partial' result.
Obviously designed as an additional money-making opportunity on the back of a format that could be approaching the end game as well.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:52
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I think the 3 minutes is after every act has performed.

Designed obviously to keep people watching until the end on the Saturday as there will be a 'partial' result.
Ah! Of course, I have no idea why I read it the other way now...

Not so bad then but still likely to have some dodgy results. In terms of keeping viewers, in that sense it's a good idea - the end part of the show has always significantly dragged down the average, especially last year, hasn't it?
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:58
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4-nil to New Tricks so far in the Eastenders/New Tricks battle for supremacy.
New Tricks is broadcast 90 minutes later, so a minimal pure-numbers 'victory' means very little - and it means even less when you consider that EE won on shares.
However you look at it BBC Two has been amazingly successful in terms of factual/entertainment..."The Great British Bake Off" "The Sewing Bee" "Springwatch" "Top Gear" "Rick Stien India" and drama "Top of the Lake" "The Fall". Its a terrific channel and I would say has the most invention on it. Hadlow has masteted the channel that hardly had any drama a while ago and she really knows how to build a good schedule each day despite the cuts to her daytime budget Two seems to florish
Don't forget The Choir and Michel Roux's Service both great shows IMO.
Absolutely I was just listing the most successful that I can remember but there has also been "Mock the Week" "The Apprentice: Your Fired" "QI" "The Politicians Husband" "The Hairy Bikers" and "Peaky Blinders" and "Line of Duty" still to come. Its got a golden touch on commissioning programmes just now.
Well said folks.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:58
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Terrific performance from Bake Off. How high can it go from here?

Poor for the heavily promoted Top Boy, beaten by a below par CSI:NY episode which was part crime procedural part advert for Green Day's latest CD.
Not quite as bad as the CSI finale which was a part advert for Black Sabbath. The not talking for half an hour thing thing was interesting if a bit oppressive like there was something wrong.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:59
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GBBO Telegraph review
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...ne-review.html

"Paul Hollywood – Bake Off’s faux-grisly judge – certainly seems to be morphing into baking’s answer to Simon Cowell. Presented with a disappointing “show-stopper” chocolate cake, Hollywood was reminded in mitigation that its baker had repeatedly cut himself during the challenge. “We’re judging the cake,” admonished Hollywood, in the brusque tone of voice that Cowell reserves for saying that everything hinges on tonight’s performance."
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:10
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X Factor definitely starting on August 31st, running from 20:00-21:15. That's roughly the same slot it had for last year's launch and the year before.

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cm...10---episode-1

Taking all the format changes into consideration, I think 9 million must be possible at least.
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:12
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BBC One and Two scored all-day shares of 24.2% and 7.3% respectively. Adding in Three and Four's healthy shares of 1.5% and 1%, and the other portfolio channels' total of about 3.4%, gives a BBC TV share of 37.4%.

The repeat of Pointless again took advantage of the flop Twisters competition and achieved 2.8m/24%, making the ITV Media top 10. When do new episodes of Pointless and The Chase return again?
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:15
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Masterchef - scheduling completely erratic, thrown all over the place.
The problem with Masterchef is that it started off as a daytime show that promoted to primetime and apart from the failed revamp it has remained unchanged, not too much of a problem on BBC Two but BBC One tried launching it with a 90 minute episode as they didn't have room to have two one hour episodes and one half hour episode which was too much.
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:16
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BBC One and Two scored all-day shares of 24.2% and 7.3% respectively. Adding in Three and Four's healthy shares of 1.5% and 1%, and the other portfolio channels' total of about 3.4%, gives a BBC TV share of 37.4%.

The repeat of Pointless again took advantage of the flop Twisters competition and achieved 2.8m/24%, making the ITV Media top 10. When do new episodes of Pointless and The Chase return again?
I believe The Chase is back on 2nd September.
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:18
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Erm, no, it was two million higher than 2012.
Yah it got like 3.6mil or somthing last year when it launched so no idea what he's on about looks like he asshamed to admit it launched even bigger then last year.
That Broadcast mistake is nothing compared to the DS ratings report where 5.6m is seen as merely decent. Good grief!
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